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[medicinal]

comment | posted March 8, 2007 (March 26, 2007 issue)
Conscience and the War


Unless the United States withdraws its military forces from Iraq in the near future, a war that began as an unnecessary invasion based on deception and predictably grew into a disastrous occupation will go down in history as a terrible crime, if it hasn't already. For Americans of conscience, Iraq has therefore become the paramount moral issue of our time.

Those of us who were against the war even before it began were often disdained, but now, after four years, only the most myopic or callous among its many well-placed supporters can deny the catastrophic consequences. By inspiring legions of anti-American terrorists where there were few, by straining the US military to its breaking point, by alienating traditional and potential allies abroad, by frightening other states into acquiring new weapons and by provoking popular revulsion around the world, the war has undermined our real national security, from Russia, Afghanistan and the Middle East to the "Homeland." And by already spending more than $400 billion, suffocating other policy initiatives and polarizing the nation, it has prevented the domestic reforms this country urgently needs.

But it is the war's human costs that must be emphasized above all else. The Bush Administration and its bipartisan enablers have already squandered more than 3,100 American lives and maimed tens of thousands more for an unworthy and unwinnable military adventure whose declared purpose has changed repeatedly--from capturing Iraq's (nonexistent) weapons of mass destruction, to fighting Al Qaeda, to deposing a tyrant, to spreading democracy and now to countering Iran. As a result, the families of those American victims have been left without even the solace of knowing their sacrifices were not in vain.

medicinal Reviewed by medicinal on 03-20-2007. Get out comment | posted March 8, 2007 (March 26, 2007 issue) Conscience and the War Unless the United States withdraws its military forces from Iraq in the near future, a war that began as an unnecessary invasion based on deception and predictably grew into a disastrous occupation will go down in history as a terrible crime, if it hasn't already. For Americans of conscience, Iraq has therefore become the paramount moral issue of our time. Those of us who were against the war even Rating: 5

[andruejaysin]

Those sacrifices were not completely in vain, they will result in a more cautious US foreign policy for many years to come.

[cannabis=freedom]

They should definitly leave. And Bush should be tried internationally for war crimes.

[Dutch Pimp]

Those sacrifices were not completely in vain, they will result in a more cautious US foreign policy for many years to come.

...a man flying combat missions between Dallas and Houston..in the early 70's should have remembered this better than anybody...instead...he forgot it first..

[Psycho4Bud]

Those sacrifices were not completely in vain, they will result in a more cautious US foreign policy for many years to come.

Sorry.......we'll still be dealing with Iran unless something drastic happens internally in that country.

:Tomcat: :apachecopter: :s4: :apachecopter: :Tomcat:

Have a good one!:s4:

[medicinal]

Sorry.......we'll still be dealing with Iran unless something drastic happens internally in that country.

:Tomcat: :apachecopter: :s4: :apachecopter: :Tomcat:

Have a good one!:s4:

"Dealing", in your estimation, must entail some kind of pre-eptive military action I presume. Military action is not always the best action, but usually is the action taken by cowards that do not see front line duty. If you made the idiots that advocate wars fight them, you'd see a huge reduction in wars. My opinion only. BTW this is not a personal attack on you as you have no authority to start Military action. If you want to see the end of an empire (The USA) start a war with Persia (Iran) and then start digging in your backyard for that bomb shelter you've been putting off for all these years.

[Psycho4Bud]

If you want to see the end of an empire (The USA) start a war with Persia (Iran) and then start digging in your backyard for that bomb shelter you've been putting off for all these years.

We'll be digging those shelters if the bleeding hearts get their way and allow Iran to develope nuclear weapons. Then it'll be, "Why didn't our government see this coming and do something about it!".

Have a good one!:s4:

[Abattoir Dream]

If you want to see the end of an empire (The USA) start a war with Persia (Iran) and then start digging in your backyard for that bomb shelter you've been putting off for all these years.

lol and China, Japan, Russia, Germany and England are all just gonna sit back and watch... i think not.

if iran were to actually USE nukes, im sure they wouldnt last long...

dont forget, its not JUST america fighting the war...

[Psycho4Bud]

I omitted to mention at "Deadly Denial [of Muslim Anti-Semitism]" that the psychological preparation for using nuclear weapons against Israel has already begun. In December 2001, as reported in Iran's English, Farsi and Arabic newspapers (and paraphrased by MEMRI), former Iranian president and "Expediency Council" Chairman Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani said that

If one day, he said, the world of Islam comes to possess the weapons currently in Israel's possession [meaning nuclear weapons] â?? on that day this method of global arrogance would come to a dead end. This, he said, is because the use of a nuclear bomb in Israel will leave nothing on the ground, whereas it will only damage the world of Islam.
Iranian Nuclear Attack against Israel? [Weblog] - Daniel Pipes

They preach it, print it, but yet there are those who choose to wear rose color glasses.

Have a good one!:s4:

[medicinal]

I omitted to mention at "Deadly Denial [of Muslim Anti-Semitism]" that the psychological preparation for using nuclear weapons against Israel has already begun. In December 2001, as reported in Iran's English, Farsi and Arabic newspapers (and paraphrased by MEMRI), former Iranian president and "Expediency Council" Chairman Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani said that

If one day, he said, the world of Islam comes to possess the weapons currently in Israel's possession [meaning nuclear weapons] â?? on that day this method of global arrogance would come to a dead end. This, he said, is because the use of a nuclear bomb in Israel will leave nothing on the ground, whereas it will only damage the world of Islam.
Iranian Nuclear Attack against Israel? [Weblog] - Daniel Pipes

They preach it, print it, but yet there are those who choose to wear rose color glasses.

Have a good one!:s4:

So, don't you think Israel can hold it's own. Israel has it's form of the CIA and be assured, before they could put together a bomb or means of delivery, Israel would take care of Business. Why is it our mission to protect Israel? Israel has proven to be a formidable enemy and if you believe in the Bible, Israel is Gods chosen people, so they have God on their side, they don't need us. The best thing we could do is to GTF out of the middle East and let that boil all on it's own. When there is a real threat to the continental US, then we can respond with dire consequences.