thanks for the updates guys...of all the seeds I started only 3 are left...1 is def a girl and the other 2 are iffy...the 1 girl is very fast growing and looks nice just have to see about yield...1 of the other 2 is short and stout with really tight node spacing so I'm prayin it's a chick...it would be great to get 2 successful mothers goin...this way I could work on introducing a new plant or 2 into the clone mix each cycle just keep the top 2 fems and replace out as contenders show promise