Carter Returns Nobel Peace Prize

[Breukelen advocaat]

Casinos certainly do create poverty. That's for sure. We went to Oklahoma a couple of weekends ago to meet some friends and met up with them at a Choctaw-owned casino across the border so they could lead the rest of the way to the restaurant. It was sad to see all the folks who could least afford it standing there, pouring money down the drain of a slot machine.

I've never visited Vegas, and have not been to Atlantic City in 20 years, but many senior citizens take free buses from New York to Atlantic City, presumably to invest their social security and pension checks in the casinos. I was at a casino in CT (or possibly PA) about 5 years ago.

From what I've read in Carter's books, money was very tight during the Depression for that family just like it was for everyone else. They were certainly less poor than the rock-bottom door-to-door meal beggars, but they were not rich. His father was not a wealthy farmer by any means. Wealthy in comparison to the poorest of Plains, yes. You ought to come down here sometime, BA, and let us take you to Louisiana where Bird's father and two previous generations of ancestors are from and look around at the vestiges of the same sort of history Carter came from. Might be interesting for you. It'd give you insight into why she's such a Carter fan, too, and a Clinton one. People love to say that line about Clinton having been our first black president. The truth was the first one was Jimmy Carter.

Thanks, Dave, I'd love to do it some time. That's a vacation I'll talk to my better half about. We need one. We went to Savannah, Georgia about two years ago and man, it was hot. Otherwise, we had a nice time. If it wasn't so hot down there, I'd consider moving to GA for retirement.

[Dave Byrd]

It's so hot down here, we're considering Seattle in three more years when she finishes school. Except we're in those in-between years where now, just as we've gotten the son pretty well grown, we're faced with aging parents who're going to need help. So it may be necessary to stay nearby. Did Bird once tell me you were the one who was thinking of retiring to Vermont? That sounds like a great place. She's cool natured and can take the heat. I hate it. I can remember what it feels like in Savannah combined with that humidity. Makes me sweat justthinking about it.

[Psycho4Bud]

And back to the subject. If ever a president deserved a peace prize it was and is Jimmy Carter. As bird girl said, he has done more to help humanity than any president I've known in my 66 years on this planet. He's in his 80s and still swings a hammer at "Habitants for humanity". He might have been in over his head as a president, but that was mainly due to the nature of the man, a peaceful caring man that couldn't comprehend the evil inherent in the world of politics. If you want to talk about failed presidencys, lets talk Nixon and G.W.Bush, the absolute two worst since I've been alive. I can only hope that Dubya gets whats coming to him as Nixon did, a large dose of disgrace!

Are we talking about Mr. Peanut Jimmy Carter?

The laughing stock of Iran..........the person that arranged the deal to give N. Korea nuclear technology. Interest rates rose to 20% during his administration.

WE WILL FEED THE WORLD! Farmers, invest in new machinery, etc.......then when your ass deep in debt we'll cancell wheat sales causing you to lose your farms. :thumbsup:

What a great guy........he needed habitat for humanity to house some of the farmers he fucked over. There was good reason why he was a one term wonder.

Have a good one!:s4:

[andruejaysin]

I do not think that it is befitting for a moderator to constantly make personal attacks on board members who have different political opinions.

Nosensense. Personal attacks are the lifeblood of politics, why should it be different here?

[Psycho4Bud]

Nosensense. Personal attacks are the lifeblood of politics, why should it be different here?

Things got a bit out of hand in here so we are under advisement to chill it out for a bit..........just so ya know.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[andruejaysin]

Things got a bit out of hand in here so we are under advisement to chill it out for a bit..........just so ya know.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

I've been on my best behavior, surely you realize that.:jointsmile:

[Psycho4Bud]

I've been on my best behavior, surely you realize that.:jointsmile:

You've been way mellow........maybe even to mellow........you don't have a WMD set-up in your basement by chance??

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[andruejaysin]

You've been way mellow........maybe even to mellow........you don't have a WMD set-up in your basement by chance??

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

Shut that down when they started making me sign for the pills.