Do you want to help stop America?

One let me first say this is not a joke, all I can say is that this needs to be spread as much as possible in any means such as this forum and other places across the world, to get the world community involved in this, for those that care about their lives, and future, because what happens in the world effects us all, and don't think for one second your life has not been affected by the war in Iraq.

One thing concerned people around the world can do is write Nato, if you care to I have such a letter you can use, and edit to send them:

PLEASE NO FLAMES OR PEOPLE ACTING IGNORANT, this is a serious matter, and there is proof to back up everything that is happening in Iraq and the crimes the USA has commited. Please lets be serious and sensitive to this important matter, Thank you.

Letter to Nato: mail to --> [email protected]


I'm a citizen of the USA, and one very concerned American, that knows that our president, and our country need to be stopped against the crimes against Iraq, and humanity.

I'm not sure what Nato cares about truth and justice in the world, but if nato does, then where will Nato stand, and fight to ensure world peace and freedom?

I know these are not easy subjects, but the USA, is commiting acts of war crimes, breaking the Geneva Convention, and the American people are being lied to and not doing anything about it, then who in the world community is going to step in against America and bring charge against the matter?

World peace, a global community of commerce, they have an effect on all of us. No one in any country can sit back and say this does not have an effect on us, because the truth is, the good and bad that happens in countries around the world have an impact on all countries, and their way of life.

As an America citizen, I'm sending out such a letter to leaders around the world asking that they stand for justice against our nation if our American people will not.

We are commiting acts of war crimes and atrocities against Iraq, now with the dropping of Napalm on these people and our country saying it's the "Mark 77 Firebomb" and not Naplam, when it's exactly naplam just with slightly different ingredients.

Dropping naplam on a nation of people, where is the diginity, and justice, and truth in this for freedoms sake?

I'm not sure the American people are stepping in to fight, but if not, I certainly hope, and pray another nation, nations, or Nato will.

I don't think that possibly it's wise for one country to take this on alone, but I hope that Nato will take this to the Nations, and get the backing of several countries in the world community to have them ALL come after America and stop the atrocities before they get any worse.

Thank you very much for your time, and help in this matter, and Happy Holidays to you and your family.

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Originally Posted by Das

PLEASE NO FLAMES OR PEOPLE ACTING IGNORANT, this is a serious matter, and there is proof to back up everything that is happening in Iraq and the crimes the USA has commited. Please lets be serious and sensitive to this important matter, Thank you.
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So where is your proof. You want people on your side, gives us the proof. Links, documents, photos, soldiers, etc.. etc... I have an open mind, convince me.

I said there is proof to back up everything that is happening in Iraq and the crimes the USA has commited.

I didn't say I was the one showing anything, if your a Yank then you should know these things already.

Are you not aware we have broken the Geneva Convention? Look and read about it, and you'll know, are you also not aware we are dropping Napalm on Iraq called Mark 77 Firebombs?

All I can say is if your opened minded please go and dig a little and you'll see the truth out there, it's not hard to find.

Are you not aware we have broken the Geneva Convention? Look and read about it, and you'll know, are you also not aware we are dropping Napalm on Iraq called Mark 77 Firebombs?

But look at this:
http://www.islamonline.net/English/N...rticle10.shtml

http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/new...ervice_id=5875

The Napalm incident is being reported from nations all over the world if your surf the web, and that is one very big breaking of the rules of War.

Prime Minister Blair is taking heat on this as well because of the Uk's backing of the USA in Iraq.

The information is all over the world if you just go look. :)

where you from das? shit, we americans probily had to save your countries ass at one time or another.

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Originally Posted by poorman3

where you from das? shit, we americans probily had to save your countries ass at one time or another.

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I'm a Yank, but YES your right our ASS does need saving, LOL :)

so your a yank, go to iraq and preach to them people thats fighting for your freedom!

Hey. I just want to know if this Nato stuff is true.

Breaking the Geneva Convention, <-- thats common knowladge. How is it common? I heard it on the radio.


Sounds liek your trying to sell this to people who may have heard a bit of the sotry and then the rest you may be seeding is is lies. Wheres the proof this is a nato link.

The best lies are often half lies

I wanna know, can i help out? But i want you to back up more then just the stuff in the headlines. I want to know if thats a nato link.

The C

as saddam was gassing his own people,?
is what i would ask you mr anti american.

war is not a write it out in rules and follow type of thing
people KILL people in them,
i dont like all the us goverment does in my name but i tell you what,
i dont want them over there,but war crimes,.?listen you take kids with guns and shoot at them,what the hell u expect,
shit they just sent a dude to prison for shooting a injured "insurgent"who probly just blew his buddys head off or some shit,so let me tell ya something
untill they start raping and putting kids in ovens,aint no war crimes going on,only a war, i think you blame the usa for siucide bombers too? dont ya?
as it is,they trying to clean it up feed them,help biuld a nation back up for them,got rid of a tyrant,it takes time,
yes i want them out of iraq
but your stop america BULLshit pisses me off a lil bit,
i dont want mr bush in office but i wont lie about what he has or has not did.
you and them rumor grinders must have a busy life.,
peace

ps
soundbite is words to live by

thanks for the back up nowhereman, this das fucker does`nt won`t to tell the whole story. he just wants to bitch about the usa!

how can you, poorman and Z, condone the use of napalm!?!?!?! its sick

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Originally Posted by Das

the good and bad that happens in countries around the world have an impact on all countries, and their way of life.

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You said it. Thats just one of the many reason we went to Iraq in the first place. Remember Saddam.

Mass Graves/ June 24 2003
http://www.shianews.com/hi/articles/...cs/0000374.php

Mass Graves/ May 14 2003
http://www.hrw.org/press/2003/05/iraq051303.htm

Mass Graves/ Oct. 13 2004
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/13/iraq.graves/

Mass Graves/ Oct. 13 2004
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3738368.stm

http://www.iraqcoalition.org/pressre...ss_graves.html

Just a little info if you didn't click on the web sites:

Since the Saddam Hussein regime was overthrown in May, 270 mass graves have been reported.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ

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Originally Posted by meek mike

Since the Saddam Hussein regime was overthrown in May, 270 mass graves have been reported.

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and that makes it okay to use napalm? guess again

I AM SORRY TO OFFEND BUT FUCK THIS WAR STOP PUTTING PEOPLES SONS AND DAUGHTERS IN A NEW VIETNAM .HAVE YOU SEEN CHENEY EVER STUMBLE IN SPEECH.WELL HE DID WHEN HIS OWN TROPPS SAID WHY DO WE HAVE TO SEARCH GARBAGE FOR COMPROMISED ARMORG.I SUPPORT OUR TROOPS JUS NO THIS GODDAMN WAR

Fuck all you Americans, you can all go to hell just for being American. What makes you fools think you's are always right, You's dont know shit. lets all get over ourselves shall we...who have no proof in what their saying except their own fucked up mind that naturally thinks its right. No ones right and no ones wrong...your all just people living in a country surrounded by mutated opinions...

Look I'm not here to stir up anything, but I guess I was wrong for trying to bring this here, the truth is out there, go read the Geneva Convention, go read the Constitution, and then you will see what America in the past has done wrong with matters over this.

I'm really surprised people are saying where is the proof to all this. The proof is look at the UK, write a letter to Mr. Blair, look at Canada, they wanted to try Bush for war crimes, but because of the relationship being so close to the USA, they are afraid, then go look at Belgium, they also wanted to bring war crime charges against Bush, HELLO people this is not B.S. where are you all living in a cave somewhere?

Just go look and do the research on your own, then you'll BELIEVE what you have found rather then me showing you something.

And BigBud that was really uncalled for I'm a Yank and I don't have anything against anyone in the world, or a attitude, I love all people around the world, and I even think Australia is great country with wonderful people.

People are people no matter where you go in the world.

Now if anyone CARES about any of this and not some childish flaming going on here, that email address I left is for Nato, and here is their website:

http://www.nato.int/
[email protected]

You might think this is all B.S. and it has no effect on you in your country, but in the world, global economies, and commerce everyone is deeply effected.

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Fuck all you Americans, you can all go to hell just for being American. What makes you fools think you's are always right, You's dont know shit.

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What makes you think that all Americans think that they are always right? By grouping all Americans into one little package your doing the one of the bad things that you seem to believe all Americans do, aren't you? Chill out dude god damn.

Yes please let's not be stereotyping people into classes, as we are all the same.

im more the same than you :)

I meant that to say, let's not be stereotyping people like we are all the same.

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Originally Posted by Das

I meant that to say, let's not be stereotyping people like we are all the same.

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i know

i was joking

damn budman, you boys from downunder got your panties in a bind? i sure don`t think i`m always right. you say for us americans to all go to hell? kiss my american ass.
i don`t like that napalm has been used but, in a war things do get shitty! i`ll stand by my country during the good and the bad. i support all them soldiers fighting and always will. do you support you homeland?

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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR

how can you, poorman and Z, condone the use of napalm!?!?!?! its sick

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sick,? did u see the nick burge tape,.?
make me think like bush,you on usa's side
or your on their side
aint no middle ground in a holy war.
we ,"infedels" all must die
so we infedels" are fightng back ,and we have the power to romp any nations ass,,,do u see the usa invading mexico,even though they are invading us dialy,]
so as far as use of naplam,.

i reckon if they can cut off heads,and send you the tapes
we can burn down the towns using jellygas
shit man what you mean condone,,does that mean u think war is fought with rules,,,,hahaha
shit man u ever been in the service,
the troops do what they are told,and CONGRESS and the prez tells them where when how and what to do,the poor ass farm boys dont know WHY>


we aint there(middle east) to be no agressive force
we (US TROOPS not me personally) are there to rid the world of a danger to it
i think if takes kicking in every door they should.and kill any muthafucker who so much as makes a peep,thye hide the fuckers they die too,
we paying for all they have now,and they get to vote and choose what asshole runs the country,or will soon,
you want saddam back there?running the show killing his own who disagree with him,
every one on here be dead by now if he had his way
so i ask you

how do you condone leaving that place to fester into the one place that gets the world at war,a nuke war will be next
should do one of two things in iraq
leave,let them rebuild on their own they deserve nothing but more from us we took out the ruling bad ass,let them do what they need to but and make it plain,you be a good friendly nation or we will fry every us hating one of ya,

or level it to flat lands and let them who make it out start over with whatever left
at least the usa tries to help.no other country out there does shit by yell HELP USA when it comes to them needing things
but who would help us,only those afriad of losing us tax money we send them



how do you condone the NOT using any means to stop them killing bastards like saddam's henchmen still out there killing their own kind
i guess you think more troops should die by crazy ass siuciders

ghost you must be very young minded to not see the big picture bro
if iraq aint settled ,nothing will have mattered
and killing the terrorist is the only way to bring a end to this shit
period.
peace

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Originally Posted by BuD MaN

Fuck all you Americans, you can all go to hell just for being American. What makes you fools think you's are always right, You's dont know shit. lets all get over ourselves shall we...who have no proof in what their saying except their own fucked up mind that naturally thinks its right. No ones right and no ones wrong...your all just people living in a country surrounded by mutated opinions...

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you wouldnt say that to my face
and have a face left pal.,
mutate into a human with a mind why dont ya
i dont claim usa is some GREAT society of perfection,,,hell no
but americans do not go out to kill its fellow man for reasons you think
we will kill you if your a threat,
america aint paradise ,it's a mess of cultures,who must make the best of all it has and somehow you expect it to be PERFECT
bombs are made to kill
america did not invent war
we just got good at it,in the need to do so
so fuck you right back and ill hush becuase i will spill forth shit dont need listed here.
peace to all but you

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Originally Posted by NowhereMan

you wouldnt say that to my face
and have a face left pal.,
mutate into a human with a mind why dont ya
i dont claim usa is some GREAT society of perfection,,,hell no
but americans do not go out to kill its fellow man for reasons you think
we will kill you if your a threat,
america aint paradise ,it's a mess of cultures,who must make the best of all it has and somehow you expect it to be PERFECT
bombs are made to kill
america did not invent war
we just got good at it,in the need to do so
so fuck you right back and ill hush becuase i will spill forth shit dont need listed here.
peace to all but you

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Im 15 and I'll give you a run for ya money. And yes I would say that to ya face and yes I hate this country as well for it's need to become the 53rd state of America.

Z, me and you obviously have totally different views on war and stuff.. no hard feelings, man :)

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NowhereMan: you wouldnt say that to my face
and have a face left pal.,

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BuD MaN: Im 15 and I'll give you a run for ya money. And yes I would say that to ya face........

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Sorry but it sounds so funny on a msg board ..........



Peace

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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR

Z, me and you obviously have totally different views on war and stuff.. no hard feelings, man :)

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of course man,none at all
i just love it when they get riled a lil and spill out the thoughts
dont you

no dude i dont like This war shit.ive had kin over there getting shot at

but i know america is under attack and that means THEY WANT ME DEAD
all i want to do is live peacefull and be happy,and my kids to be safer.
but hard to do with death squads forming agianst you cuase some rich assholes think its cool to NATION BIULD
i think america needs to FIX ITSELF UP before Fixing other places.
but i still love the usa,at least i love what it
COULD ONE DAY BE
i just want peace,and drugs
period


oh and to mr im 15 and would say that to my face
your fucking jailbiat do you realize your protected by that
of course you do,
see me when you can buy a beer
im not shy about it
live in lincoln county west virginia,and fuck you cops if you look here
"go arrest a real criminal,"

ask anyone around for "Rusty "
they will piont you to your demise you so desire
i dont run,
and i do shoot back,or shoot first if thought is needed
so remember this shit,
z dont run
he dont fight for fun
and he is good with a gun
come on over if you want some

haha

now yaw dont take that serious unless your so uptight you must

The usa arent the only ones breaking the Geneva Convention and who fucking cares its fucking war remember 9/11 remember those men geting there heads choped we should of just of droped the bomb on them yes people that had nothing to do with it would of been killed but look at 9/11 look at whats going on now we should just wipe out the whole place and you may be saying what up my ass well here it is my uncal is MIA sence early this yearand iam preparing on leaving in jan I have a lot more to say but fuck it iam going to smoke a joint

bud man i usually dont curse anyone unless its face to face but FUCK YOU since you are only 15 i guess i would just spank your ass and beat the fuck out of your daddy if you said that to me. since you hate america so much why dont you move yourself to the middle east and suck some camel dick!


Once a Marine Always a Marine


fuck you pussie




PS: sorry lulu but a couple of these assholes really pissed me off

I think sometimes we like to reafirm our beliefs through others. I think it's benificial to hear from others peoples perspectives. I'm learning about the world through someone esles experiences.


I also think it's possible we have heated emotions because we just want whats best for eachother? I get heated because I(we) care about the people on here, generaly. I don't want a fellow human being hurt. But i don't want to be hurt myself.
I care about my values and I want to make it known how I feel. I want others to feel the same way i do. That way we can accomplish something with a certain goal.


Together we stand... Devided we fall...

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Originally Posted by BuD MaN

Fuck all you Americans, you can all go to hell just for being American. What makes you fools think you's are always right, You's dont know shit. lets all get over ourselves shall we...who have no proof in what their saying except their own fucked up mind that naturally thinks its right. No ones right and no ones wrong...your all just people living in a country surrounded by mutated opinions...

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right on budman.
im doing my bit by bashing every american i meet.
i smashed my rolling stones cds too but then remembered theyre poms.

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Originally Posted by jimmy5150guitars

bud man i usually dont curse anyone unless its face to face but FUCK YOU since you are only 15 i guess i would just spank your ass and beat the fuck out of your daddy if you said that to me. since you hate america so much why dont you move yourself to the middle east and suck some camel dick!


Once a Marine Always a Marine


fuck you pussie




PS: sorry lulu but a couple of these assholes really pissed me off

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amen

nowhereman you rock and so do all of you other patriots i bet most of these pussies havent even been war. nothing fun about it. Fuck you imotep pussy why dont you walk into a crowd of marines and bash them? i bet you wouldnt have the balls thats the differance between you and me i would walk into a crowd of people like you and call all of you pussies because i am an american marine and will kick ass, die or kill for america right or wrong

would you do anything your commander told you to do? think for yourself. question authority!

..the greatest obstacle to international order is that monstrously exaggerated spirit of nationalism which also goes by the fair-sounding but misused name of patriotism. (Albert Einstein, 1931)

In two weeks the sheeplike masses of any country can be worked up by the newspapers into such a state of excited fury that men are prepared to put on uniforms and kill and be killed, for the sake of the sordid ends of a few interested parties. Military service seems to me the most disgraceful symptom of that deficiency in personal dignity from which civilized mankind is suffering today. (Albert Einstein, 1934)

I love my country.
And I battle constantly
And the old man always gets his way.
He said "You better be Sorry"
And the son of a bitch always wins.

I think he's the father of this bastard child?

Because Islam cannot stop us.
Because we are Great.
And we will never surrender.
No matter what the consequenses.

And with strength and Power God judges swiftly like the blade.
Your sins between you and the so called Lord.