The Edwards diary

Daily Kos.com This is an excerpt from a speech By John Edwards: Tonightâ??tonightâ??somewhere in America a 10-year-old little girl will go to bed hungry, hoping and praying that tomorrow will not be as cold as today because she doesn't have the coat to keep her warm; hoping and praying that she doesn't get sick as she did last year, because it means 24 hours waiting in an emergency room to try to get medical care; hoping that her father, who lost his job when the factory closed and has not been able to find steady work, will actually get a job that allows him to provide for his family. She's one of 35 million Americans who live in poverty every single day, unnoticed, unheard. Well, tonight we see her, we hear her, we embrace her, she is part of our family and we will lift her up.

Now come on right wingers, say something about how all he wants to do is raise your frickin taxes, or put him down for being weak, because he has compassion. I am astounded by your silence on this thread. I figured I'd get trampled with right wing bullshit! Or are you just ignoring me because I'm not in your little clique? Well ignore away, I'll be keeping you updated with left leaning rhetoric daily, or as I see it, Reality! I'd rather have a dialog, but monologues work also.

Universal healthcare

On Feb. 5, 2007, Edwards unveiled his plan for universal health care, which would require higher taxes and cost up to $120 billion per year. Edwards said the plan would be paid for by eliminating Republican-passed tax cuts for people earning more than $200,000 per year. "The bottom line is we're asking everybody to share in the responsibility of making health care work in this country. Employers, those who are in the medical insurance business, employees, the American people â?? everyone will have to contribute in order to make this work".[53]

Legal Career

Edwards was criticized for paying himself mostly through subchapter S corporate dividends, rather than a salary, to take advantage of a tax-law loophole that allowed him to avoid paying $591,000 in Medicare taxes; Edwards claimed that he chose the subchapter S structure to protect his assets from liability.[3]
John Edwards - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That POOR, POOR lil' girl is certainly an issue at election time. Better find someone better to lean on dude.......this one was way to easy to discredit! Pay higher taxes people........BUT I'll use my subchapter S.

Have a good one!:s4:

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Daily Kos.com This is an excerpt from a speech By John Edwards: Tonightâ??tonightâ??somewhere in America a 10-year-old little girl will go to bed hungry, hoping and praying that tomorrow will not be as cold as today because she doesn't have the coat to keep her warm; hoping and praying that she doesn't get sick as she did last year, because it means 24 hours waiting in an emergency room to try to get medical care; hoping that her father, who lost his job when the factory closed and has not been able to find steady work, will actually get a job that allows him to provide for his family. She's one of 35 million Americans who live in poverty every single day, unnoticed, unheard. Well, tonight we see her, we hear her, we embrace her, she is part of our family and we will lift her up.

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Originally Posted by medicinal

Now come on right wingers, say something about how all he wants to do is raise your frickin taxes, or put him down for being weak, because he has compassion. I am astounded by your silence on this thread. I figured I'd get trampled with right wing bullshit! Or are you just ignoring me because I'm not in your little clique? Well ignore away, I'll be keeping you updated with left leaning rhetoric daily, or as I see it, Reality! I'd rather have a dialog, but monologues work also.

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A good parent will work at ANYTHING, including several jobs, to keep their kids healthy, warm and safe. It's not my responsibility if the parents are unwilling to do this, and it's the job of family courts to remove the child from a bad environment if that is the case.

Lazy idiots should not have kids in the first place.

There - I've said it. Are you happy now?

and it's the job of family courts to remove the child from a bad environment if that is the case.

Lazy idiots should not have kids in the first place.
Well they do and they aren't getting any smarter. Think about this: if the median IQ is 100, that means half the people are below that, and if you go South of the Mason Dixon line, It's probably 75-85%. Thats a lot of kids to put in CPS, Are you up for the increases in your taxes that would entail? Lazy Idiots are a fact of life. Unless you are willing to affect the "ultimate solution" IE. Nazi extermination camps, they are here to stay, go ahead, let out your Nazi rants, lets just kill them all so the rest of us can live an intelligent life, after all, they are less than human, right!

Edwards was criticized for paying himself mostly through subchapter S corporate dividends, rather than a salary, to take advantage of a tax-law loophole that allowed him to avoid paying $591,000 in Medicare taxes; Edwards claimed that he chose the subchapter S structure to protect his assets from liability.[3]
Come on, He's a lawyer. Thats what lawyers do, steal for a living. But now he has all he needs. Do you think Presidents pay excites him. He is a successful lawyer that made millions ripping off the insurance companies for hapless victims and now wants to eliminate them completely. On that one issue alone he gets my vote. Insurance companies are the biggest scam in this country, and they own most of the rest of the politicians. Edwards has fought them long and hard and I admire that. The comeback I'll no doubt get from you guys is he costs everyone else more for medical. Thats why we need single payer medical. Eliminate the corrupt corporations, HMOs and Medical INS. Co.s.

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Originally Posted by medicinal

and it's the job of family courts to remove the child from a bad environment if that is the case.

Lazy idiots should not have kids in the first place.
Well they do and they aren't getting any smarter. Think about this: if the median IQ is 100, that means half the people are below that, and if you go South of the Mason Dixon line, It's probably 75-85%. Thats a lot of kids to put in CPS, Are you up for the increases in your taxes that would entail? Lazy Idiots are a fact of life. Unless you are willing to affect the "ultimate solution" IE. Nazi extermination camps, they are here to stay, go ahead, let out your Nazi rants, lets just kill them all so the rest of us can live an intelligent life, after all, they are less than human, right!

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Once you pull out the "Nazi" card, you've lost your case.

I have nothing against giving a parent a break if they really have a problem beyond their control - but this sense of entitlement that parents AND their offspring have these days is very trying on the patience of their tax-paying non-parent benefactors like me. I'm paying for their kids' schools, lunch programs, health care, tax breaks, etc., and I don't own a car or a house or any of the things that many of these parents have. It's enough - and if another Clinton, or a similar type like Edwards gets in the White House, there will be another change after their term is up - with more cutbacks than now. It goes in cycles, thankfully.

Lazy idiots should not have children, unless they have the money - or private charities willing to supplement their hobby. I'd like our taxes to pay people to get sterilized - give them a thousand bucks and a new color TV. Then maybe we'd see something positive happen.

The stupider people are, the more kids they have. Edwards didn't mention, in his homily, how many brothers and sisters the fictional 10 year-old-girl had.

P.S. I'm East Coast born and raised, going many generations back, and even I resent your comment about the supposed lower I.Q in the South. The stupider people are, the more kids they have.

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Edwards was criticized for paying himself mostly through subchapter S corporate dividends, rather than a salary, to take advantage of a tax-law loophole that allowed him to avoid paying $591,000 in Medicare taxes; Edwards claimed that he chose the subchapter S structure to protect his assets from liability.[3]
Come on, He's a lawyer. Thats what lawyers do, steal for a living.

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Originally Posted by medicinal

Daily Kos.com This is an excerpt from a speech By John Edwards: Tonightâ??tonightâ??somewhere in America a 10-year-old little girl will go to bed hungry, hoping and praying that tomorrow will not be as cold as today because she doesn't have the coat to keep her warm; hoping and praying that she doesn't get sick as she did last year, because it means 24 hours waiting in an emergency room to try to get medical care; hoping that her father, who lost his job when the factory closed and has not been able to find steady work, will actually get a job that allows him to provide for his family. She's one of 35 million Americans who live in poverty every single day, unnoticed, unheard. Well, tonight we see her, we hear her, we embrace her, she is part of our family and we will lift her up.

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LOL.....allow me to finish his speach:

Now I could limit lawsuit liabilities that hurt the industy that put her daddy out of work but I got some friends that would be VERY unhappy about that. We wouldn't want to see any homeless lawyers now would we? hehehe

The only thing left is for us to see her, hear her, embrace her, and raise our taxes so we can give the help she rightfully needs. Now once again I don't mean EVERYONE.....you see, me and my lawyer friends that help to put factories out of business due to lawsuits and high insurance rates have tax loopholes. Now don't think your alone on this....we think of ya all the time when we buy our new cars, mansions, and designer underware. We like to give with our heart. :D

Have a good one!:s4:

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LOL.....allow me to finish his speach:

Now I could limit lawsuit liabilities that hurt the industy that put her daddy out of work but I got some friends that would be VERY unhappy about that. We wouldn't want to see any homeless lawyers now would we? hehehe

The only thing left is for us to see her, hear her, embrace her, and raise our taxes so we can give the help she rightfully needs. Now once again I don't mean EVERYONE.....you see, me and my lawyer friends that help to put factories out of business due to lawsuits and high insurance rates have tax loopholes. Now don't think your alone on this....we think of ya all the time when we buy our new cars, mansions, and designer underware. We like to give with our heart. :D

Have a good one!:s4:

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Don't forget about the left-leaning unions that out-priced the salaries and benefits of so many factories and other shops, that layoffs, and even outsourcing, become a necessity. I know of this very well, from personal experience.

No highjack intended........BA, you have to post in this thread!
http://boards.cannabis.com/politics/...something.html

Have a good one!:s4:

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Now come on right wingers, say something about how all he wants to do is raise your frickin taxes, or put him down for being weak....

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you didn't get that rush of right wing antipathy because this sort of rhetoric doesn't even deserve that much attention. out of the full deck, the two most often played cards are "race" and "it's for the children", we've heard it all before and we're less and less impressed by it every day.

this is not compassion, just political maneuvering. it's only another blatant attempt to separate hard working people from their cash to create a welfare state, entirely dependent an the government for its existence. who do you think will pay for all of these wondrous programs? it surely won't be the rich. for every tax increase there is another loop-hole born, but only for the rich. instead of creating opportunities they redistribute existing wealth. not the wealth of those who can afford it, but the wealth of families who are still trying to climb the ladder of success.

this empty socialist rhetoric only impresses children with no experience in the real world, the rich who are untouched by these massive tax increases, and the idealists who are willing to give up all they have worked for to pay for this illusion of progress. even the poor are unimpressed. they know how little such programs do to really improve their lot in life and, with the exception of those too uninspired to do more than sit on the couch and watch oprah, would rather see an improved economy that provides for a healthy working class than temporary handouts that so nothing more than sustain their meager existence. the socialist agenda is a dead end that profits only those in power and creates a slave class to do their bidding. we have seen it around the world and only a fool would want to repeat that failed experiment in his own back yard.

the socialist agenda is a dead end that profits only those in power and creates a slave class to do their bidding. we have seen it around the world and only a fool would want to repeat that failed experiment in his own back yard.
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My, My, such cynicism. From you with the above 100 point IQ, I assume. BTW are you sure about the south and IQ, I'd bet a nickle they have lower ones, at least from their reaction to the Dixie Chicks saying they were ashamed of Bush being from texas, hell I'm ashamed he's from the United States, even from this planet for that matter! They were issuing death threats and crushing their CDs, real retards. If you side with them, then this conversation has just hit an alltime low and I'll have to re-think the above 100 point deal. There are a lot of college educated fools running around, just look at Washington DC. Using large words does not guarantee an intelligence is present. The ability to look at all sides of a situation and make the best decision usually showcases intelligence, but you can't just look at one side and say gotcha.

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My, My, such cynicism.

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i'm not quite sure what the rest of your rant had to do with my post or what the average intelligence in the south has to do with the price of tea in china for that matter. as for siding with anyone; if you had been paying attention you would have realized that i have no side, my opinions tend not to fit into the narrow limits of a particular party line.

though i prefer to consider myself a skeptic, i will admit to cynicism as well. it comes from having a rather low opinion of humanity that is reinforced on a nearly daily basis. congrats, you're today's example.:D

though i prefer to consider myself a skeptic, i will admit to cynicism as well. it comes from having a rather low opinion of humanity that is reinforced on a nearly daily basis. congrats, you're today's example.
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That's it, when you're losing the arguement, attack the oponents credibility with delusion. Man you must be a miserable human being. Have you ever contemplated suicide. If I were as bitter and dejected as you appear to be, suicide would be high on my list. The gist of this post was that Edwards was trying to bring some compassion to the political arena, and as usual, you cynics have poo-pooed that into extinction. I wonder what kind of humanity is really out there when I read posts such as yours. Enjoy your miserable life is all I have to say to you Mr. delusional, you sure picked the right name for your self, BTW using large words does not prove your intelligence, the nature of your posts disproves this tenet.

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The gist of this post was that Edwards was trying to bring some compassion to the political arena....

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the true worth of compassion is shown by deeds, not by words. excuse me for being skeptical when history has shown how false a politician's words can be and usually are. i don't consider theatrics to be proof of a politicians worth and, until the democrats can show a workable plan to ease the suffering of the poor, i will consider these sob stories nothing more than theatrics. to be able to point out the ills of the world is not a good enough reason to be elected to high office, any fool with two eyes can do that. problems are not solved by pity.

in case you wish to aim more insults in my direction, you might try pointing your arrows at something besides my intelligence. i'm relatively secure in that area. i do have vulnerabilities in the area of my masculinity though, give that a try next time.:hippy:

though i prefer to consider myself a skeptic, i will admit to cynicism as well. it comes from having a rather low opinion of humanity that is reinforced on a nearly daily basis. congrats, you're today's example. Well, mr. delusional, I'd say you fired the first shot. I only attack after I've been attacked. I'd rather not attack at all. I'm still sticking with my theory that the Christian right and southerners are less intelligent. After all they voted twice for the asshole known as Bush. Now if you are a right leaning Christian, or from the south, you may be the exception, as not all of them can be dumbasses, just enough to re-elect Dubya. I also have watched the Dixie Chicks movie and if you want to see dumbass rednecks from the south, go see it. I had my suspicions, but after seeing that movie it made my case. I'll not direct any insults toward your masculinity as on an internet political site, we're all sexless, now on a porn site, that is a different cow, I'm only guessing,~LOL~ Humanity runs the gamut from Gandhi to Jeffrey Dahmer. Somewhere in between are the majority of Humans. The glass is either half full or half empty. From your postings, I'd have to say you're a half empty kind of guy. Cheer up, maybe we'll have thermonuclear war within the next five years as predicted by various religious cults, from the Mayans to the Christians. Hope it lands on top of your head, less worries that way.