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I have never thought of this in that way
but dreaming is a natural hallucination
some really trippy things happen in our dreams
things that could or would not happen in our lives..
Lets here about some of your crazy dreams.
My favorite dreams are the sex dreams..those are great..
I used to dream about eating peoples brains...that was pretty psycho.
The dreams when you fall off of something are the coolest..you think your gonna die..then you jump up in bed and are happy you didn't die.
dreamed me and my girl and mad people from my school and family were flowing down a fast current which led to a waterfall which would bring us to our final destination... the fucking incinerator..
i had a chance to jump to safety right before the waterfall but i couldnt find my girl (who i had a fight with right before we were thrown into the current by some evil regime), so i decided to let myself go down the waterfall.. a few seconds before i shouldve died i shrieked I LOVE YOU ALEXANDRAAAAAAAAA!!!!! (out loud) and woke us both up.. scary shit
she had one where i jumped off a cliff in trying to save her. haha
Dreams are fun. I rarely remeber my dreams anymore though... what when I do they're always a wild ride.
who's to say that you're not dreaming right now?
who's to say that the dreams you have when you think you're sleeping are not basically the same as what you're experiencing now? You can see things, feel pain, etc when you're sleep-dreaming, so maybe what you're feeling right now is just a more detailed type of dream? Can you prove that you are even conscious right now?
If you're interested in someone who poses this question in detail, more eloquently than me, read Rene Descartes.... Meditations on First Philosophy
do you want the blue pill or the red pill?
I like dreamz.
Dreams can be far more trippy than any acid trip ive had
isn't DMT involved somehow?
In Theory yes, but DMT is more connected with near-death experiences.
Tripping on DMT can induce a dream-like experience, but it's nothing like when you sleep and dreaming. More like shrooms with incredible horsepower.
I'm hallucinating right now!
I'm in this cold, noisy lab that smells like phenol and acetic acid.
I am stuck here for the rest of my career.
Oh wait...
Shit.
:D
uhhh you have N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT) in the pineal glands in your brain. DMT is what makes you dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by thcbongman
I dream but I hardly remember a thing,,,can't even remember the last one I had...
It would be cool to be able and document your dreams. I forget a lot of what I am dreaming about. I think the key would be to put a notebook next to your bed. Everytime you wake up in the night..you write what just went on..
When I was a kid I used to dream that I had to pee real bad..So, in my dream I would go behind a tree and go to the bathroom. Then I would wake up mid stream and be peeing in my bed. Embarassing..It didn't happen that often.
My not knowing is a diff not knowing... I actually don't think I dream at all most of the time ,,,but I know I do cause maybe 3/4 times a year I will wake up and remember dreaming something... I remember when I was little having dreams but,,, I for some reason was able to shut them off cause they where bad,,,I did not want to dream... I think I effectively subconsciously just turn them off like a TV...
I had the best sex dream the other day geo. I should start a thread in sexuality.
It's been a long time since I had a sex dream. I think my libido is slowly dying as there has been little movement down there. :p
When you dream, your body releases a natural chemical known as DMT, so when you dream, it's like an unconsious (sp?) trip. You dream because this chemical is making you dream.
Joe Rogan had a little say on that on a radio show awhile back. It's kind of interesting actually. :)
I heard or read somewhere that when you dream about sex, it's rarely actually about sex per se. I don't much care what it's about. I just like it.;)
Go For IT!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs. Greenjeans
I think Dro Princess already did one:)
:S5: Yeah, dreams are cool. mine are vivid, and sometimes extremely fucked up. i get into fights and i have super powers. but every other dream i have that is serious, actually ends up happening. For instance, i had a dream where a friend of mine was going down a hill on a bike and he had flipped over the handle bars. It happened as i had seen in my dream, this "dejavu" has been happening for a while now.
ps
I love marijuana
You can actually listen to the recording of that show online:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nochowderforyou
http://www.joerogan.net/albums/rogan...s_Life_002.mp3
Hah I came here to post this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneironaut
I have this reoccurring dream that I am back in high school and all I'm doing is skating around, usually away from someone or toward something else. It's strange because the dream usually follows a pattern. By the end of the dream, I have had sex, skated through the halls of my school and encountered some sort of dangerous, exotic creature.
Oh yeah! What's your point?
Yeah too right.
I've always maintained, well for a few years now, what is the difference bewteen when you imagine a tune you have heard in your mind and actually listening to it?
My mother recently said she had never seen a ghost, and i replied no you have never seen one whilst you have been awake. I think our minds connect on the same plane or planes when we dream, sometimes, not necessary always, when you meet someone you know in a dream i think the other person is there too. They are sometimes people who are awake and maybe also the spirits of dead people. I think I have connected with a dead relative in my sleep 2 times.
Sometimes our senses and dreams can decieve us. However, to be decieved we need a conception of truth. Dreams are based on reality and so cannot decieve us about the basic constituents of reality; such as time and space, colours and shapes.
Je pense, donc je suis...
Sure they can dreams are not just a sub-reality, dreams may incorporate reality however.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue
Sorry for the DP.
I remember when i first got high, like REALLY got high.
I also remember the first time I hallucinated.
Both of them struck me so hard that I'm still reeling to this day. They showed me that reality isn't definitive, life is entirely based on perception, and the thing about perceiving is that its not the thing itself (very hard concept to grasp here people so i'll do my best to explain it) but is an alteration or representation of the thing.
Like when we look at a tree we are receiving unique data that is stored or interpreted to mean tree, and our memory of that tree is not the tree itself but a kind of coded representation of that tree, someone else could have looked at that same tree and seen an entirely different tree, perhaps because they were looking from a different angle.
Sorry for the TP, but you can only edit for 5 min
Continued from previous post!
So when you hallucinate, you are experiencing the same thing from a different perspective, you might look at a tree and see something your mind cant even comprehend because you've never seen it before, just like a newborn wouldn't recognize it at first, without prior memories of it.
The mind is an advanced tool to store information gathered through other senses that we have evolved. It makes sense of things through repetition and order based within itself.
I do so much thinking and contemplating about subjects like this, especially since my first delve into the unknown universe (that vague enough for you???)
I don't see how the government can cover up something so well, how they hide something so important that it is most likely the origin of consciousness. The ancient greeks would use a drink made of ergot (sound familiar) or if not ergot they used amanita muscaria. In fact only the aristocrats of ancient times and very important people we're allowed into the rituals that used this kind of hallucinogen.
It's a very close kept secret because its so sensitive particularly because IMO they used hallucinogens to created a guided trip which gave them a knowledge about reality that is so profound it effects the very reason we are the way we are. Think about what a hallucination is, simply put its a different electrical pattern in your neurons which is caused by a particular chemical that happens to be similar enough to an existing brain chemical that its compatible but creates a different environment with different reactions. So you're still in the same reality but everything you experience is foreign.
What if you were to create a setting in which the affected individual is presented with surroundings that their brain uses and stores as something profound (because its so intense that its memorable, excuse the pun) and that memory which comes from a foreign reality and now the clincher, the memory has an effect and a bearing on our present normal* reality. Most use now days of hallucinogens is in a setting so arbitrary and remote from what it should be that probably damages the brain more than it helps.
I think if hallucinogens were used properly we would advance so dramatically that we would be on the high path to achieving our potential.
This is one of the reasons im so paranoid and such a conspiracy nutter, because we've lost touch with the origin of ourselves, and that can't be good at all. Instead its replaced by the thrill of modern technology which is man made and artificial, losing touch with nature entirely will only be our downfall (look at global warming and pollution, not just smog pollution but radioactive and waste chemical pollution).
After all, we came from nature.
i think you know exactly where its at.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwirlyMass
i also think we think alike
i think humanity really has lost focus on whats important. we idealize this meaningless shit, hollywood and the news and gadgets and money, and none of it has any meaning. it keeps us distracted. when your mind is constantly processing all this new information, you cant possible create origional thoughts as easily. i think a major probolem is people dont see this, and buy into the illusuioned world we have set up for us!
when i think about it, i get this weird thought, its like everything becomes disconnected. why does money matter, because money is only money because we make it money. same thing with school, responsibility, basically any part of life. this usually takes me to some crazy caverns and ravines of my mind..:toilet_claw:
we need to make changes. we have to connect more with out inner voices, with our soul, and learn and think on our own. im struggling to, and i really think i have become a better (for lack of a better word) person because of it.
do you get what im saying?