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I have been contemplating this forever and it is the most important question I have. What do you think will happen? Modern science says that humans are just material that will decompose and our minds will fade out of existence like a spark of elecricity and this life we live is as far as we go. What I'd like to believe is that when we pass away, we will return to our true essence, and merge with the collective, unseen energy that makes up our universe. What do you believe?
nothing your DEAD
something along the lines of that...
there is no such thing as death, only life, that which is, is alive, has life, has mind, body, and soul.
when we decompose, we are only changing. our minds change, our bodies change, our souls change, and adapt to fit the situation at hand.
we will be rocks, we will be dirt, we will be feces, we will be plants, we will be animals, and eventually, we will be humans again.
the change of life also changes the mind drastically, altering our memories, blocking out past life memories we might not be able to cope with, or understand.
i am an omnitheist, i believe in the infinite all. there is an infinite variaty of every infinite thing.
infinite alternate realities, infinite souls, soulmates, twinsouls, infinite planets, universes, stars, and infinities.
all which exists is the mind. the mind is like a single celled organism, it divides itself into alternate copies of itself, all that exists is mind, and the infinite divisions and manifestations thereof.
shhh... it's supposed to be a surprise.
And anyone who says different is probably selling something.
I believe our earthly bodies will decompose... ashes to ashes, dust to dust as the Bible says. As for our minds, however, I believe we will be judged by God. I believe all have rejected God at one point or another either through lying, stealing, cheating, and a variety of other sins that are forbidden and hated by God. I believe those who heard the good news of Christ's death on the cross for man's sins and turned to Him in love and faith have been forgiven and will spend eternal life with God. I believe those who rejected God's offer of eternal life through Christ will go to an eternal death... most likely an eternity of suffering because they rejected their creator.
As for those who have never heard of Christ, I believe they will be judged by what they did know of God... through nature, His omni-presence, etc. and no one who rejected Him will have any excuse as to why they rejected His love and His ways. I've been on mission trips (to share the good news of God's saving grace) to several countries including Iran and China where it is illegal to tell people about Christ. In those trips I've come across people who had never had contact with Christian missionaries and yet say Christ came to them in a dream told them of His sacrifice for them. I have no doubt that God will reach with the gospel all who are going to believe in Him... whether through missionaries, nature, dreams, or any other means.
I believe all these things because that is what the Christian Scriptures teach. They are not necessarily what I would personally choose to believe, but I have no choice... I didn't write the book! The Bible has changed my life for the better so many times, and God has spoken personally to me through it in so many ways that I cannot deny it as the Word of God written to me and all of mankind.
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Originally Posted by Xhoshi
i cheated and looked at the end of the book.
the worms did it.
:S5:
Nobody knows man but I'm guessing not much. You become part of the earth, what once made you, now makes other things. It's a huge cycle.
Like Buddha says, just focus on what you have now, we have no way of knowing what will happen. Your life will carry on forever through your actions in this life and your family will grow to contain a part of your soul. Physically, your body will be gone, it will be part of the earth harvesting new life.
Smoke a bowl and watch Baraka; you will no longer wonder about dying, you will just accept it and be happy to face it!
So work on that! Go volunteer, give some money to a homeless guy on the street, get as much education as you can and pass your knowledge on to others! That will make the world better!Quote:
Originally Posted by rickytikki
The feeling you will get from such acts will make you happy, trust me! :hippy:
Your brain, which contains everything you know, your entire personality, and all your subjective experiences, will decompose with the rest of your body. The mind and the brain are not two separate things; they are one physical organ in your body, which is proved by the fact that physical damage and physical alteration to the brain changes the way that your mind works. Your thought processes, your emotions, your memory, it's all an extremely complex arrangement of trillions of nerve cells.
If your brain is 10% destroyed, you lose 10% of your mind's ability to do what it does. If your brain is 50% destroyed, you lose 50% of your mind's ability to do what it does. If your brain is 100% destroyed, you lose 100% of your mind's ability to do what it does. There is no reason to suppose that it suddenly and magically regains all its lost abilities and floats off to some other dimension where it will live happily ever after. It's never been observed, there's no known mechanism which could possibly explain how it would work, and the only reason anybody takes the idea seriously is that they (understandably) are scared shitless by the prospect that their existence is going to be temporary, and the prospect that all their dead loved ones really don't exist any more.
Think about it: if somebody has a brain disorder from birth, and they grow up mentally retarded, are they still retarded in the afterlife, even though there's no physical brain to have a problem with? Or do they suddenly develop the intelligence and personality of a non-retarded person, thus becoming, essentially, a completely different person? The brain is the mind, and the mind is the brain. The death of the brain is the death of the mind.
its going to be like a dream..in a way, take DMT and you will know what death is like, im just waiting for the day to continue my spiritual adventure.
I still think that the people who believe they will have an awesome afterlife with eternal bliss or whatever must have their doubts. Why would you even try to avoid death if you were absolutely sure that your afterlife was going to be super-cool?
no i take advantage of my life, im going to live this to the fullest because yes i do have my doubts, it could just be blank space when we are dead...
but did you know our body produces DMT when our bodies sleep? its from the penile gland (no not PEE NILE) which is between our eyes, and when we die that gland bursts... which is what is produced to make us dream...
I've heard about that, pretty trippy!Quote:
Originally Posted by nikweiser
That's because its the pinal gland...Quote:
Originally Posted by nikweiser
Rather redundant, but also false. You seem to ignore all the findings concerning the remarkably plasticity of the brain, and its ability to adapt and function even after being damaged. Even within the fully developed adult brain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneironaut
I know you've got this whole materialist paradigm going on for you, but if you're going to make wild claims I'd like to see evidence backing them up, as opposed to just the regular dogma.
If Elvis was alive today he would be scratching and clawing trying to get out of the casket.
u could spend ur whole live tryin to figure it out
u'd only go crazy
PEACE
like me! :yippee:
if elvis were alive today he'd be really pissed at the mess the worms had made of his suit.
It has been suggested that when the pinile gland bursts, it is possible that someone could live out entire lifetimes in their dreams, right before they die. If you have ever had a lucid dream, you would realize that reality is in our minds, and this is entirely possible. How do you know the life you are living right now isn't merley a figment of your imagination? Time is wildly distorted in dreams, so I believe that in the seconds before we die, our body thrusts us into an infinite dream (a self-defense against the unimaginable concept of non-existence), so at least in our minds, we could live forever.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikweiser
it's pineal, damn it. you're driving me insane. i know it's a short trip, but it's really hard to get back.:p
If your good you get to lay in a field of hemp with unlimited papers and a lighter.
If you were bad you get to lay in the field but no way to light up.
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Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
lol that was bugging me too XD
I plan to live forever.:angelsmiley:
yeah, you got it. Still, at least I was closer than penile...Quote:
Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
yea im pretty amazing right?
What comes after death? LIFE
We can't prove it. It has been proven. Bank on it.
Right on JSN :thumbsup:
"In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;"
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
I hope for that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xhoshi
I actually want to take issue with that same assumption, but for different reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billionfold
Because, actually, this is my universe. Which would of course, include the earth...
I should really be getting some kind of royalties or something...
we all live forever, for life is all that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by FLORIDA MON
do you mean you intend to sustain your body indefinitely?
good luck and lots of cannabis!
we posted your check over a week ago, i'm surprised you haven't received it yet. i'll look into the matter as soon as i get back to the office. next time notify us as soon as possible and we will try to find a better way of delivering your payments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Polymirize
sorry for the inconvenience.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA! You KNOW I was going through the same thing in my head!Quote:
Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
According to this dictionary I found on the shelf, debacle comes after death. So there you have it.
Death, and then eternal bullshit. No different than life.
I understand why this kind of question drives us to many idealistic conclusions since we always try to make our place in life thinking it must stay like this forever. But what I think is that we might possibly dream after death for some time wich can seem forever so maybe its closer to reality than our short present lives...and thats fine but is it really important... I'd like that and maybe its the case but I cant prove it so let it be possibilities wich are nice and infinite
And for those who see death as the end of the mind and and brain like oneironaut, its perfectly reasonable and I think its what science seems to show now so be it. but why be scared of the end when we all now that new life arises every day on earth...what if we work hard to make earth the greatess place to live possible so that the life that we know to come by every day may have the best new life as time goes by? hope I'm clear with the point im making
so for me death is the end of ME, my thoughts, knowledge, mind but they may still live on and be remembered but it wont be ME..I'm dead and thats actually a relief cause that makes place for a new life to come by. Also, I dont think we should be scared of the end of us since nothingness is not felt nor boring right? if thjere is such a thing as nothing. To be more concrete...life is like playing an RPG game...you have a life and you might die while living it and if you do well...you start a new game..new character etc just like a new born..ok ok the difference here is that its not the same sequence of life like in a game.
anyway..make the best with the time givin to you thats the way to go period
peace
like that explosions in the sky song?Quote:
Originally Posted by devon420
this universe and everything in it was put here for my amusement. at the moment of my death there will be no further use for any of it. once i take my final breath everything and everyone will cease to exist.
you'd all better hope i live a long long time.
we're a lot alike... only im immortal.Quote:
Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
i want to live with the beavers after i die
For those who believe death is final and when you die you simply decompose, that would indicate that we have no soul. So would i understand correctly that you believe humans have no soul? I dont see how you could believe that we just die and that we do have a soul at the same time. But if you dont believe in the sould then the thought of just decomposing could make a little sense.
I believe our souls are manifested through, directly linked with, our minds.