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Hydroempire, Organic Hydroponic Nutrients, Indoor Grow Lights and Supplies - 800 watt Dual Spectrum System - $479.95
Are those lights ok?
Overkill?
For that amount is this a good setup or should I look at something else?
I am thinking about getting them as my only light setup for beginning to the end of my grow. Any input is welcomed.
I have this light, but it isn't fully in operation at the moment, so I can't show you a log. The blue addition is supposed to give your more tightly packed nodes, with more trichs (from the UV). I bought my light used, if I had bought new...I'd have probably went with just an HPS....Just because the heat would be easier to control....
I've seen some people swear by the dual specs...but I can't find any finished logs....
Good Luck, :jointsmile: Bree
you could just get one with a switchable ballast...
so dual is not needed? too much heat? I looking into starting with 3 and not more then 5 plants. something basic. ill just reather get a good light setup something I can have for a while, just tired of ghetto rigging stuff. I just want a nice system that i can grom from seed to harvest.
Let's see if someone on here chimes in with some amazing story about these lights....................if they do, I'd love to hear.
Dual really isn't needed...from everything I've read.
If you want a light that does it all how about this:
Hydroempire, Organic Hydroponic Nutrients, Indoor Grow Lights and Supplies - 400 Watt HPS & MH Advantage Mini System - $279.95$239.95
If you don't think you'll have heat problems, go for the dual spec, by all means....but the link I gave you will be good for all stages and is cheaper (not only initially but when the bill comes too)
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only problem is heat then? so this would be bad for a closet grow,
what types of heat problems are we talking about? ( sorry new)
It's a little pricey for the 400/400, but IMHO nothing beats dual spectrum - search my name in the cannabis pictures forum, or check my gallery for results and budshots. You will need a good fan, don't cheap out on the cooling. The nicest part IMHO is you use the standard bulbs instead of the enhanced spectrum bulbs, so you can replace both bulbs for less than the cost of one enhanced bulb - and get a better spectrum to boot.Quote:
Originally Posted by trafik
Tokudai- What kind of fan do you use? I am going to a hydro store on Friday and I'd like to know what you would suggest. I have a whole in my reflector to cool it, 4in....I ran the light for an hour yesterday, and the temps got to over 100...but I didn't have the light hung and my ionizer blowing up into it..so I don't know how accurate it is... I'm going to try to hang it soon and have more accurate starting point. I don't even have a great stand fan atm, but that will happen soon too. The room is a small bathroom and has passive intake (through door). It already has a whole in the ceiling that leads to the attic. Thanks for any advice you have...:jointsmile: Bree
Heya Bree
I use a Panasonic Whisperline fan for odor control/light cooling - 6" duct 340 cfm, passive intake. Not the most powerful fan but I wanted something super quiet. I also have an oscillating fan in there for agitation
How big is your room/ what are your ambient temperatures? I'd guess at least 350 cfm - but the more the better. Dayton makes a nice 465 cfm fan, loud though. Although that 4" duct kinda shoots you in the foot as soon as you neck down a larger fan. What kind of budget for a fan do yas have?
Here is as much info as I have...Hope you can help...The room is about 208 cubic ft. Keep in mind most of this is unusable space. With all 800w running, my ambient temps are about 99.4, a foot from the hood it is 104.8. I don't have a set budget, but I try to save every dollar I can. BUT, don't want to skimp and find out " I could'a, should'a, would'a." Does that make sense? So I'd like to get there, but I don't need to keep up with the Joneses'....lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Tokudai
I was also thinking of adding a scrubber (homemade) to the line...I know that takes power, but I am not sure how much. I have a Hunter Ionic thing, but someone doesn't think that will be enough... it is working for my two plants right now, btw.
Thanks for all your help Tokudai, :jointsmile: Bree
I forgot to add that I do not have a glass cover on the hood as of yet...snowed in ......But will have one cut soon. Does this affect anything temp wise, or worthless?
Thanks again, :jointsmile: Bree
Heya bree - I totally understand about the budget thing. Nothing worse than buying something insufficient and then having to get ANOTHER one. If I could count how many times... ok nevermind ;)
Glass will cut down the lumens from the light a little, but will definitely help with the air cooling of that hood - I would highly recommend it. I even use a glass cover on my 150W/70W DS fixture, and I can almost touch the bulbs with no fan on em.
The main issue is exactly how much room you have and how you want to run vents. To just cool the light alone and not worry about smell, then you need the intake and the exhaust of the fan to be outside the room - that way the outside non smelly air cools the light, and leaves, still non smelly just warmer. Since the cooling air never touches the buds, this can work. This is the ideal solution when using CO2 also, as you can leave the fan on the lamp constantly and it is still a "sealed" room. A little tricky to hook up for most locations though, and a bit overkill for not using C02
A carbon scrubber on one end keeps you from having to have a clean, direct intake source, but will increase the amount of fan needed. You'll also want to use a bit bigger materials when making it, to make sure it doesn't choke the fan. In my bloomroom the route goes filter-fan-light-out. Intake to the room is passive.The fan sucks through the filter and then blows the de-stinkified air through the cooltube and out the roof. This wouldn't work for a C02 setup though.
A larger fan will always be better, because you can adjust the voltage to it with a rheostat to make it turn slower, moving less air, but a lot quieter. Also if you find you need more fan , then adjusting the rheostat will increase the fan speed. It's easier to make a larger fan move less air by underdriving it than the reverse. Plus when you are using "too much fan" then the routing, 90 degree bends and dryer hose won't make that much of a difference
With your room size and if you are not going with C02 anytime soon, then the Dayton 465 should cover everything you need for light cooling and odor control when you add a scrubber onto the end of it. The ionic breeze does not work that well when fully in bloom, they just get overwhelmed from my experiences. Great for a mother/veg/clone room though. With the Dayton you will also need some flanges to route the flow, as its a rectangular outlet.
Here is the cheapest I have found the Dayton 465 for - 96 bucks! Compare that to 140ish at specialty "indoor" shops
Grainger Dayton 465 cfm
Of course with grainger it must be mail ordered unless they have a pickup location near you - but they are an industrial supply co and it shouldn't raise any red flags. Hope this helps a little and let me know if I can be of more assistance. Good luck!