I feel sorry for the high school youngens these days...

hi all,

I was watching CNN last night, for some strange reason, and somewhere in the States they had the principal of a high school talking about giving urine tests to the students. What they do is test for drugs and alcohol, at random. They call someone out of class, make you piss in a cup, then it goes for basic testing through the school, then it gets shipped off for more advanced testing at a facility.

I just want you to know I feel for you youngens having to live with this. I think I may understand the frustrations that I see coming from the young kids. This is a total invasion of ones privacy, and I don't see how giving students piss tests, have anything to do with learning and getting an education.

I do have one question though, what if you refuse a test? What would happen? I'm just curious, that's all. :)

All I know, is back in my day, if someone told me to piss in a cup, I would be, Fuck and You. 2 wonderful words put together to form an insulting comment. :S4:

LOL
there are over 1500 people
at my school.. they arent gonna
piss test anyone there. weve still
got our smoking lounge, and the senior
lounge where you can go durring
class and play game cube. we pretty
much have all the freedom we want there
and im not worried about being piss tested
because they would get the big fuck you.

they will just have to carry a vile of thc free piss with them to school everyday its not hard.

there is always a way to beat the system

...BIG BROTHER....is here now.

and we call this a free country. HAHA.

Wait...Is this in Canada or the U.S.?

I guess it really dosn't matter.

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Originally Posted by geonagual

and we call this a free country. HAHA.

Wait...Is this in Canada or the U.S.?

I guess it really dosn't matter.

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This one I saw on TV was from the US. Random urine testing isn't common in Canada. It's America's attempt to stop the war on drugs. :rolleyes: and we know how well that has been going for the last 10 years.

that is bullshit! i feel sorry for every highschool stoner in america( if they do that). if a teacher told me to i had to do a piss test id whip it out and piss on him/her then tell them to test that...fuck authority

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Originally Posted by Nochowderforyou

This one I saw on TV was from the US. Random urine testing isn't common in Canada. It's America's attempt to stop the war on drugs. :rolleyes: and we know how well that has been going for the last 10 years.

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I figured as much.
They can try and try but they will lose. One day they will give up the fight on marijuana. But as Dutch said, it is "Big Brother" for sure.

naa they cant fucking make u piss in a cup. even when my parents force me to get tested, i still can tell the doctor not to tell the results to my parents and he wont tell em. wtf makes our deans and principles okay to let them see our results. only way i see that happening is if the kids get burned smoking at school and they have to get tested or they are expelled or ot'd

I'd piss in the cup, then as I was handing it back to whoever made me piss in it, I would splash it in their face and run.

do you know how expensive that would be
i seriuosly doubt they can even do that
the urine needs to be tested quick to get a temperature
and so on and so on

fuckin school cant even afford books and stuff

yeah expense would be HUGH, they would get so much criticism about diverting the funds away for extracurricular activities (football, soccer, baseball...) in order to catch the minority who smoke.

I dont think they can do that legally because of the court case with the anti war arm bands. That ruling from that case is that you're rights dont end when you enter school doors, and random piss testing is a violation of your rights. They can piss test if you're in sports though. If its not a public school all bets are off.

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Originally Posted by conch420

that is bullshit! i feel sorry for every highschool stoner in america( if they do that). if a teacher told me to i had to do a piss test id whip it out and piss on him/her then tell them to test that...fuck authority

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LOL...that reminded me of the Dave Chappelle show where he pissed on the prosecutor...

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Well, as far as the subject at hand, that sounds pretty unfeasible and somewhat unreasonable as well. If it is true, oh how sad...

RastafarI.


The Fog :rastasmoke:

If they start that in my high school, there is gonna be an all out war I swear to god.

the high school im suppose to go to has random peepee tests

I would refuse, they can't force the piss out of me.

what happens if y ou fail a piss test in highschool but arent in any sports. how can they really punish you, what do they give you a detention?

Here is a two hour detention for smoking Cannabis!

Times have changed. Back when I was in high school we actually had OPEN lunches, meaning you were allowed 50 minutes to leave school, go where ever for lunch (Taco Bell, Mickey D's, etc..) and return for the rest of the day. Eventually, more and more students would leave and not return so they CLOSED the lunch period...but it was nice at the time.

"We're not gonna take it! we're nto gonna take it anymmmmooooore! NO!"
anyways...i would say fuck you and fuck off.
no way am i giving my piss to someone i dont know.
:D

We have over 1,000 per grade in my high school. The only way we get randomly tested is if you're in a sport or a club, and you have to fill out a form and hand it in. You can get piss tested for falling asleep in class though, if the teacher chooses. And once you fail a drug test you're suspended, you need to go thru drug counseling and then once you come back to school they test you on two seperate times and you have to pass both of them. If you refuse you get suspended because you've already signed a form agreeing.

We used to have smoking lounges, back in the 90's...now we go to the sidewalk right by my school JUST where school grounds end. Except every day 2 security trucks drive by and a few times a month a cop stops by and writes up citations to the defiant kids who don't move.

Although my HS has three different buildings and a library, so if we want to smoke cigarettes we can just smoke them in between classes (A 10-15 min period).

My school is way harsh on weed and other drugs though...DUMB!

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Originally Posted by wholapola

Times have changed. Back when I was in high school we actually had OPEN lunches, meaning you were allowed 50 minutes to leave school, go where ever for lunch (Taco Bell, Mickey D's, etc..) and return for the rest of the day. Eventually, more and more students would leave and not return so they CLOSED the lunch period...but it was nice at the time.

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That was the same with us. At lunch, we were allowed to leave property. They even had a smoke pit for the smokers, and we had bush covering the entire perimeter of the school, so sometimes we'd sneak out back and toke one. Hell, kids even used to drink in the parking lot on a Friday afternoon.

I wish I could remeber what part of the States this is happening. Boston area is coming to mind, but I'm not sure. All I know is that I saw it on the news last night, with the principal saying it's okay to random test, and the opposing side saying it was an invasion of privacy.

I have seen the same kind of posts every so often on this forum in Experiences, so it has begun at some schools.

They mentioned it was the Bush Administration conducting these tests to stop the War on Drugs.

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Originally Posted by BabyFacedAbortion

We have over 1,000 per grade in my high school. The only way we get randomly tested is if you're in a sport or a club, and you have to fill out a form and hand it in. You can get piss tested for falling asleep in class though, if the teacher chooses. And once you fail a drug test you're suspended, you need to go thru drug counseling and then once you come back to school they test you on two seperate times and you have to pass both of them. If you refuse you get suspended because you've already signed a form agreeing.

We used to have smoking lounges, back in the 90's...now we go to the sidewalk right by my school JUST where school grounds end. Except every day 2 security trucks drive by and a few times a month a cop stops by and writes up citations to the defiant kids who don't move.

Although my HS has three different buildings and a library, so if we want to smoke cigarettes we can just smoke them in between classes (A 10-15 min period).

My school is way harsh on weed and other drugs though...DUMB!

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Well..at my school...they expell you instead of suspending.
and all that jazz...its crazy.

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Originally Posted by wholapola

Times have changed. Back when I was in high school we actually had OPEN lunches, meaning you were allowed 50 minutes to leave school, go where ever for lunch (Taco Bell, Mickey D's, etc..) and return for the rest of the day. Eventually, more and more students would leave and not return so they CLOSED the lunch period...but it was nice at the time.

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naww man i got that going on in my school right now. nice freedom but alot of undercovers around my school because of a bunch of narcing going on.

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Originally Posted by Nochowderforyou

hi all,

I was watching CNN last night, for some strange reason, and somewhere in the States they had the principal of a high school talking about giving urine tests to the students. What they do is test for drugs and alcohol, at random. They call someone out of class, make you piss in a cup, then it goes for basic testing through the school, then it gets shipped off for more advanced testing at a facility.

I just want you to know I feel for you youngens having to live with this. I think I may understand the frustrations that I see coming from the young kids. This is a total invasion of ones privacy, and I don't see how giving students piss tests, have anything to do with learning and getting an education.

I do have one question though, what if you refuse a test? What would happen? I'm just curious, that's all. :)

All I know, is back in my day, if someone told me to piss in a cup, I would be, Fuck and You. 2 wonderful words put together to form an insulting comment. :S4:

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I've been piss tested. Generally, they can only piss test you if you are in some sort of extra-curricular activity. At my school however, since it is a technical institute they signed everyone up for "skillz usa" which is a competition thing that only like 3 people from each school can actually go to. So, our entire school is subjected to drug tests because of that fucking absurd loop hole they found.

What happened when I failed (lucky me, I wake'd and bake'd the morning of the test...) is they made me take 5 one hour sessions at this place, which was about stress and completely irrelevant. I get tested every time they do randoms now. If I fail a second time, I have to go to a rehab thing I guess, with 20 sessions and it will be way worse. 3rd time, I think I'll just get kicked out.

Obviously it pisses me off and I fail to see the relevance, but we all know drug testing is complete bullshit to begin with.

they do that at my school but only for the athletes

I'm not joking when I say this, but if they bagan random drug testing throughout the school there would be a protest by students. But at my school random drug testing for the football team doesn't even work due to the fact half the team is on steroids

What does smoking dope and getting an education have to do with anything.
Its your CHOICE TO SMOKE WEED Its your RIGHT to have an education.
Are they going to deny you your rights now?
no wonder the kids are killing each other in school.
they are more worried about the dime bag then they are about the 357.:jointsmile:

I don't think that public schools can do that. Shit, I went to a private school, and they didnt even test because they knew that 3/4 of the school would fail. If a school told me that I would take it to the school board; it would get overturned. That shit would cost a lot of money.

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i dont need to piss in a cup to tell you i smoke weed---some movie..

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^^^thats what id say

I wish they would have pissed tested me junior or senoir year. They would have been shocked I was still walking upright let alone doing good in school. I probably had every imaginable drug in me at certain points in time in high school, thank god that wild shit is behind me...

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Originally Posted by wholapola

Times have changed. Back when I was in high school we actually had OPEN lunches, meaning you were allowed 50 minutes to leave school, go where ever for lunch (Taco Bell, Mickey D's, etc..) and return for the rest of the day. Eventually, more and more students would leave and not return so they CLOSED the lunch period...but it was nice at the time.

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Shit, my school still have a lunch period where you can go anywhere you want, and there's no way that's gonna change, I don't even know any school that isn't like that. And we ain't got 50 minutes, we got 1h35 lolz
When students don't come back..a secretary calls their parents most of the time, but sometimes not, cause we're 2500 students. So..yea, people can actually not go to school, but hey, its their business

umm if they did that to me... i would take the test... come up dirty, get expelled... and take the shit as far as i could go in court... possibly all the way up to supprem court... to sue the school...

I was talking about this with my pops on the phone last night and he made a good point.

If random testing ever does come into full effect, what's going to happen is some of the students will come back dirty, get kicked out of school, and won't be allowed back if they don't follow the rules. What we'll end up with is having many young people, not educated, and not able to work happily in life. That will result in unemployment, that leads to stealing, and robbing people.

These methods from the Bush Admin. are not going to work. Just like the War on Drugs. Things have only gotten worse since they started that, and doing this will produce the same results.

I should have made this a little more clear form the start. It isn't random testing. They only test if you are entering extra curricular (sp?) activities, like sports for example, or if you came to school impaired, or got caught with drugs, or if some outside source pointed you out for using/selling drugs.

I'm sure it isn't random. It's not like, pick a kid out of the class and test them. They have to have a reason to do so.

It would be much too expensive to randomly test kids. They complain about not getting paid enough as it is.