'Hanoi Jane' becomes 'Jihad Jane'

'Hanoi Jane' becomes 'Jihad Jane' - Orlando Sentinel : Opinion 'Hanoi Jane' becomes 'Jihad Jane' - Orlando Sentinel : Opinion

Chuck Grist | Special to the Sentinel
Posted February 1, 2007


When I was a young teenager, the boys loved the sexy Jane Fonda in Barbarella. After I became an American soldier and a Vietnam veteran, she was "Hanoi Jane" to all of us. We were disgusted when she became a revolutionary and a communist sympathizer who sat on North Vietnamese anti-aircraft guns and gave aid and comfort to our enemy.

Now Hanoi Jane has become "Jihad Jane," and she has decided that the terrorists of the world who cut off people's heads and blow themselves up to kill innocent men, women and children are not as bad as the Americans who have liberated tens of millions of people since Sept. 11, 2001. In fact, I don't think I have ever heard her criticize the terrorists of the world.

^^^^^^^^sounds like many of the Libs here^^^^^^^^

When a Fox News reporter asked her, "What do you think about what happened to the 3 million Vietnamese and Cambodians who died after the U.S. troops left Vietnam?" Fonda replied, "It's too bad that we caused it to happen by going in there in the first place."

By blaming the United States for the millions of postwar murders in Southeast Asia, she proved to the world that she has never changed her radical philosophy. The killings after that war were the result of purges by her communist friends in Vietnam and by the murderous Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. Obviously, the apologies she made in the past for her actions during the Vietnam War were only because of book and video deals or to promote a movie.

Fortunately, the average American is too smart to believe that Jane Fonda, Susan Sarandon, Sean Penn or Tim Robbins are anything more than struggling celebrities who would do almost anything to get their mugs plastered on television. When Robbins was unable to give an intelligent answer to a question, he suggested that the reporter enlist in the military.

^^^^^^^^you Libs tell me that all the time^^^^^^^^^^^

These so-called movie stars have the depth of a saucer of milk. They are shallow individuals who don't understand the scope of the threat facing the world. To blame the vast majority of deaths in Iraq or Afghanistan on the United States is to admit they don't watch the news. Our soldiers are killing insurgents and jihadists; the bad guys are the ones killing innocent civilians on the streets of Baghdad and Kabul with their improvised explosive devices, car bombs and suicide vests.

While there have been mistakes and tactical errors in waging the war on terror, if Osama bin Laden says the third world war is raging in Iraq, I believe him. We can't pretend that our enemy has not made that country the front line in the war on terror.

No matter how "famous" the Fondas and the Penns may be, even they cannot ignore the tsunami of blood sweeping across the world in the form of Islamic fundamentalism. This evil is being promoted and inspired by various entities, but the most successful has been Iran. Now that Tehran says it wants to increase its military and economic support for Iraq, we only have to look at Lebanon to see what could follow. The Iranian-supported terrorists of Hezbollah have no intention of letting a secular and democratic Lebanese government survive, and they are the model for fundamentalists in Iraq like Muqtada al-Sadr and his Mahdi Army. Al-Sadr is also supported by Iran, and he is part of the current political process only because it suits his purposes for the moment.

As a veteran of Vietnam and Operation Iraqi Freedom, I am waiting for the "celebrities" like Jane Fonda to make their trips to Iraq and Afghanistan for photo opportunities with the insurgent leaders. I can already picture Fonda holding an AK47 and wearing a suicide vest as she becomes cozy with the terrorists.

After "Jihad Jane" and her Hollywood pals sit on Haifa Street sipping tea with the insurgents, I hope they are permitted to leave with their heads.




Bravo Bravo.....he said it very well

she like many of you, should be tried for sedition......

at one point i was against the war because i thought it was hopeless, i found myself rolling over the hill as time rolled over the hill and it became a staple.
i think we should stay and finish, if possible, but at one point i felt sending troops in the first place was just throwing them away.
i feel like i was too liberal, and not ballsy enough..i feel as if were stuck and i think any progress we can make is good if it means protecting the innocent..
the concept of terror seems psychotic and useless and i will forever be against anyone who kills for the sake of killing or the torture of the innocent to gain power and notoriety..that shits widespread everywhere anyway and should be contested swiftly.

bong30 are you an antismoker?
i quit about 4 1/2 months ago but i was never against the laws of the country. i just figured use where you didnt bring harm to anyone was ok and as long as you are not disrupting society by smoking..i can see where the laws can decrease crime; safety of myself and family/friends is something i will always fight for and attempt to set examples to back up..

my friend is in the army and although ive changed my views to more support the occupation i dont want him to be sent for fear of him being killed.

seditions a good word lol

anti smoker? like cig smoker?

No... like many things there is a time and place for it.

I have asthma (maybe from my Mom smoking when i was a kid?) it makes it hard to breathe when im in a smoke filled room.

I think it is beyond rude to smoke while people are eating, and around kids.

I chill with my friends when they smoke outside..... it was outlawed in Denver last year.

Notransfer, Im glad to hear you have grow up and your views are based in ratioanl thought. Keep it up.

It will never end. Once we're done in Iraq there will be a new country to go after in the name of "terror". Unless we can wipe out the thought of people hating America there will always be people who will want to do us harm. Its the age of rebellion. Anyone with kids knows if you tell them no that they will most likely do it anyways while your not looking. Our government has a war on drugs, thats been running longer then the war on terror, and I think we can all agree it's not working.

Duhhhh Zim.....

The war on drugs= dumb

The war aginst Radical Islam= must win

Hey Zim..... when the Muslims have had there asses kicked and all the madrassas are preaching peace to the infidels our job will be done....

When Islam goes through a reformation we will be done......

Why dont you just convert to Islam and beat the curve?


WHEN THE PRESIDENT OF AN ISLAMIC STATE CALLS FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF ISREAL..... we are not done.

thx a lot bong
ive read some of your parenting posts and have developed a quick strong respect for you and you are my elder it feels good to hear what im thinking isn't too far naive..

nah i was just wondering because

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she like many of you, should be tried for sedition......

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i think ....Hippies..or whatever...some other duragatory term i wanna use and cant think of...people who hate the cops and the 'fuck the man' thing..is fucking..monotonous..and boring...i agree with you that there are much larger concerns in day to day existance..if thats all you ever discuss, like pot smoking anarchy, you have a lot to learn about being a wise civilian..and a positive addition to society

i was kinda like that at one point,but in my past 3 years after being through some mental strife i have heavily developed a lot of respect for police officers and the law and i think its great if they can rid communities of guns and gangs and such..for example.....its a hard battle though

Who made it "our" job? I think Israel is more then able to defend itself

It is OUR job, cause WE WILL NEVER FORGET... like you, libs have a short memory.

What about israel wanting to live in Peace with out suicide bombers?

What about Iran wanting to set up a pursian empire?, shia cresent?
Old babylon as the center? where is that i wonder?

In Zims Eyes... it is ok for Israel to fall, then europe, then africa, the north america....zim dont care.

You can stone women to death under sharia law....zim dont care

you have to wear a berka....zim dont care

Gdub wants to win the war...............ZIM CARES

Bong McBoing Boing, you are up to your old tricks. "if you don't go along with the Bush regime insanity, you are sedicious, or cowardly, or communistic, or worse, a flaming faggot" What the fuck is going on in that pea brain of yours? Is this not America, land of the free, with free speech and freedom of thought? I am also a Viet Nam era Veteran and what I was fighting for was political bullshit, not freedom. Maybe WWII was fought for freedom, but the rest in the last 66 years have been for political bullshit and profit. If you are too "stupid" (your word) to see this, then I consider your posts nothing but the ramblings of a sick person (to call you a man might be pushing it). If you can't refrain from simple minded name calling, then don't be surprised when someone calls you a fucking moron!

No bong I do care. But you make it out to be worse then it really is. All this money being spent on the war could have better went to protecting our boarders and any point of entry into this country. They will continue to blow each other up as long as we are there, and even after we leave. Do you think that outside interference would have stoped the US civil war much earlier? Or was it the best thing to let it run its course and let people learn from history? I believe our military should only be used IF it's an immediate threat to America. Cuba was building nuke silos next to America with Russia's help. We did not invade them. We simply blocked them from there supply source and they stopped. Iran has no nuke yet and wont for quite awhile from now. Plenty of time for talks. America needs to bite the bullet on this one and drop there "American pride" feelings for just a moment.

LOL you guys are dumb, and Not funny.....


anything on the points, Med, you fuck? You are the head up your ass LIB, Viet nam and The war on Radical Islam is totaly different....even a dumb mother fucker like you can see that..... I love the name calling.... keep it coming.

Zim, when they get nukes, and nuke Israel...it will be to late. If you had lost your family in the WTC your views might be different. You forgot they have been attacking us for many years before gdub. Short memory thing again.



Med, was cheering for hanoi Jane.......Go Jane GO.....while she sat aon the anti aircraft guns that were just shooting at US air men.....

you listened to too much walter chronkite...... now your a red bellied, yellow striped commie.........I love the name calling.....

could have been putting the money to better use. we are the only country who has nuked someone as an act of war. we have enough nukes to blow up the entire worl many, many times over. i just hate to say it but it is wrong when we do it. if we are going to have seperate countries said countries need to look at for themselves, like it or not bong iraq is worse of since we entered, i am aware saddam is out of power as i am sure you are aware it has since slid into a civil war. but they have held democratic elections so i guess it is ok. and i dont know if you are still arguing for the vietnam war but pretty much everyone in american including those who were for it at the time have admitted it was a huge mistake. same will happen with this one in due time.

Compare Iran to a swarm of killer bee's. Leave them alone and we don't get stung. Mess with there hive and most likely you will be attacked.

Iran is not a dumb country. They know damn well that if they nuke Israel or have any part in it that they too would be seeing a mushroom cloud over there nation. What good is it to wipe out your enemy completely if your not gonna be around for the victory? Iran's threats are just empty words, set on gaining support in an area of the world that has felt suppressed for a long time at the hands of foreign powers.

In China, most of the citizens there know absolutely nothing about what happened in Tiananmen Square due to censorship.

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Compare Iran to a swarm of killer bee's. Leave them alone and we don't get stung. Mess with there hive and most likely you will be attacked.

Iran is not a dumb country. They know damn well that if they nuke Israel or have any part in it that they too would be seeing a mushroom cloud over there nation. What good is it to wipe out your enemy completely if your not gonna be around for the victory? Iran's threats are just empty words, set on gaining support in an area of the world that has felt suppressed for a long time at the hands of foreign powers.

In China, most of the citizens there know absolutely nothing about what happened in Tiananmen Square due to censorship.

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...what happens?...if they all decide to go to heaven..at once?...

Remember the movie that Jane Fonda did, "Coming Home"? It was about a soldier's wife who dumps him for a Vietnam vet that lost the use of his legs (and presumably his sex organ)and included love scenes between the Fondaâ??s character and her paraplegic ex-soldier boyfriend. With all due respect for wounded vets, the message of this movie was not so much compassion for them as a skewered view of male-female relationships. This movie was very popular with feminists, for obvious reasons.

Med, was cheering for hanoi Jane.......Go Jane GO.....while she sat aon the anti aircraft guns that were just shooting at US air men.....

you listened to too much walter chronkite...... now your a red bellied, yellow striped commie.........I love the name calling.....
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Boingo boingo The reason you love name calling is you have nothing intelligent to say, so like the 6 year old mentality that pervades your Uh, should I even call it a "mind", you start with Name calling. Na na na na na na. How pathetic. What a small little person you really are. I'll bet you don't even have a dick, it's probably a Pee-Pee!, Peace out!

First off let me say that I HATE i mean absolutely HATE politics...
anyway i just wanted to say i consider myself a rational member of the middle. I have no problem with the "war on terror" i just kinda wish
a. we would do it right and actually declare war on shit before we blow it to hell (like you know follow what the constitution says)
b. we would have invaded another country besides Iraq like maybe we coulda leveled Syria (im all cool with the invasion of Afganistan cause they were an obvious terror breeding ground but Iraq was just headed up by a D-bag... we kinda just made them into one giant terrorist training camp now w/e)


Lastly, I'm a jew and therefore will support Israel to the end... Fuck the PLO

I think maybe Bong is more than just a little upset that the tide is turning. Soon (very soon) the days of Neoconistic warmongers running roughshod over the Constitution for the purpose of stuffing some already fat wallets, will be only a memory and a history lesson. The collective conciousness has moved beyond this type of thinking by realizing the absurdity of it all.

I can thank GW and his cronies for one thing: finally moving the fence-sitters to understanding that when you sign-off on your liberties, this is what you get.

Like Midicinal said..............PEACE OUT!

I think maybe Bong is more than just a little upset that the tide is turning. Soon (very soon) the days of Neoconistic warmongers running roughshod over the Constitution for the purpose of stuffing some already fat wallets, will be only a memory and a history lesson. The collective conciousness has moved beyond this type of thinking by realizing the absurdity of it all.

I can thank GW and his cronies for one thing: finally moving the fence-sitters to understanding that when you sign-off on your liberties, this is what you get.

Well said, we can only hope. The Dems need to grow some huevos and step the fuck up. Start impeachment hearings and cut off the war funding and bring our guys and gals home, now. Fuck Iraq, they'll still be there killing each other, let all those idiots have at it, the more they kill, the less we'll have to.

Man I'm glad that these so called terrorists from the middle east haven't decided to invade the United States just because they don't like the fact that we have a democracy...LET THEM RUN THEIR OWN FUCKING PART OF THE WORLD.