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THC4MS WERE GIVEN 9 MONTHS SUSPENDED FOR TWO YEARS.:confused:
THIS MEANS IF LEZLEY USES CANNABIS TO EASE HER MS IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS SHE FACES NINE MONTHS IN PRISON, I AM FUMING.:mad:
THC4MS IS IN THE TIMES, THE MIRROR AND MANY OTHER TABLOIDS TODAY, WAS ON BBC1 LUNCHTIME NEWS YESTERDAY
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Hi if you click on the link its about 20 mins into the program....
Just got back from a long and emotional journey.
Crown Court had a huge THC4MS banner, and a small but noticable group of supporters.
We arrived in time for the hearing, and were impressed with the defence teams case and suggestion of a conditional discharge, rather than suspended sentance.
However the judge based his decsision that thc4ms supplied "a substantial ammount of cannabis over two years" and gave them a suspended sentance of 9 months over 2 years.
an order was agreed to destroy any cannabis and growing equipment, and also all paperwork thc4ms had produced and had been seized by the police, the defence argued the third point, stressing that it was probable that although thc4ms has stop the service, a campaign group would continue, and the paperwork would be needed and in itself was not illegal.
The judge accepted thc4ms had stopped service and accepted a seperate case to discuss and decided on the paperwork issue.
I understand it was accepted that thc4ms did not profit, and it was clear no fine should be imposed, although there was dispute bout court cost which totalled over 7,000.
Mark, Marcus and Lezley's second half and sentance saw a full court, with the jury box being used for public.
Lezley broke down on several occasions, her barrister told the judge she had recently started taking anti depressants and was suffering from the length of proceedings. It was also mentioned that Mark and Lez had had to close their business since proccedings begun, meaning they no longer have an income.
None of the thc4ms tthree had to stand for sentancing.
THC4MS left the court to a huge round of applause and cheers, i havent seen the news yet, but lezley was very emotional, itv was the only tv camera i recognised, there was over 20 reporters in the court and outside.
There was noticed support from UK420, including rev paul.
granny pat also made it after a break down and was driven down to the case by a lovely young man in a jag.
other lca people were Tony, Carl and Sam, and Me colin and Os, both colin and os spoke to the press, quoting the magna carta.
all in all i am pleased no-one is in prison, but feel the sentance was wrong, and the judge was a stiffler for the law regardless of the emotional and sypathetic case.
Love to everyone who couldnt be there, thanks for the positive vibes, we felt them,
This is one fucked up country the UK
Its only illegal until the drug companies get clever, then they will be raking it in, the government will love all that extra revenue, all on the take.
We got no room in the prisons for real criminals and yet the justice system wasted tax payers money on cases concerning an ordinary herbal plant.
Belladonna is in cough mixcture (grows by the road side)
Foxglove didgitalis is in Warfarin (grows by the road side)
Aspirin our dear old friend from the bark of a tree
Poppy plant has morphine, codeine and a type of warfarin (grows everywhere seeds easily bought in all garden centres)
All legal and sold worldwide by the drug companies
Cannabis plant, reliever of chronic pain and suffering
illegal and against the law WHY?
If there had been any room in the local prison im sure the judge would have locked them up, yet another judge lets some child pervert walk the streets.
Wheres the justice, no such thing.
People power and education show em there wrong
Im baked im going:pimp:
Mo x
Our government are going RIGHT up the creek.
Im very glad to hear that no one is having to serve any custodial sentences.
It's disgusting it even went to caught, they moan that it cost 7 grand. It was 7 grand that didnt need to be spent.
Our government need to releace people who sell and smoke plants, and make room for REAL criminals, perverts, murderers and robbers.
But our government cant do that can they? They cant run a country for shit, i've ALWAYS said this, and now it's becomming true.
They have NO idea how many illegal immigrants we have flooding our country, all the prisons are full, little chavs are taking over the place, smashing things because its fun, even the PM was interviwed by police about this cash for loans scandel.
It's a piss take.
We need to get rid of ALL MP's, and start over. Make laws that will benefit this country, not target harmless people who are DOING NOTHING wrong.
We're right. We should be aloud to smoke a plant.
If people have the choise to and not to smoke tobacco and drink alcohol we should have to the choice to and not to smoke weed.
Concidering it's almost harmless.
The English Government is a disgrace.
I AM STILL FUMING, I'LL MAKE A BETTER COMMENT ONCE I AM CALMER XX
Now you know what i feel like every time i even think of the government.Quote:
Originally Posted by elsie haze
But lets look on the brightside, no custodial, and it could've been. But still, like i said, it shouldnt have even gone to court. There was nothing wrong with what they did, they were helping people. If that's illegal now then im moving. Fuck this country, canada here i come.
Sad and Infuriating.
Sativex gets the go ahead and all of a sudden a few people are in the firing line of Big-Pharma (GW)
Funny how they get nicked as soon as someone else thinks they might miss out on the £££
Fight the power ;) They know its wrong, we know its wrong.
there has been a flurry of news world wide, best way to search is putting lezley gibson or thc4ms in google. bbc news also covered it on lunchtime news on friday, you can see it on the thc4ms website
i saw a bit in the times and have written a reply based on the comment made by the woman i have been petitioning since the case was bought,
the sad thing about suspended is lezley cannoy=t use cannabis for two years to ease her pain as she will be immediatly imprisoned for 9 months in her condition its appauling.
anyway heres my rant:
constructive way to vent my anger...
Dear Sirs,
I have known of the work of THC4MS for some time, and on hearing of their prosecution opened the following petition:
Petition-them.com
After the hearing, Claire Lindley, the Cumbria chief Crown prosecutor, said that the campaigners had not known the medical circumstances of those who received the drugs and that the enterprise had been commercial.
How can Ms Lindley make such comment when the judge made clear acceptance that the THC4MS group did not make commercial gain, and anyone present in the court was aware that every single patient of the THC4MS had sent a letter from the doctor stating their condition. For some reason the jury were denied access to the letters by the prosecution.
The whole case of conspiracy was a complete shambles, police had known of THC4MS for some years before the prosecution was made, THC4MS had been on BBC1 in an open an honest documentary of their work, as well as other national programmes and press, it is clear that THC4MS supplied those in very serious pain, who could not achieve relief from conventional therapies, and it seems that due to the law change in 2004 that THC4MS are now seen by the courts and government as a threat, down to the fact they could provide a medicine that worked for little or no cost, this must have an impact on the governments ideals of supplying MS patients with their own medicine at a high cost.
The judge demanded the jury return a guilty verdict on the case of which the jury were denied the evidence needed to gain a full picture of the case, this cannot be justice.
The magna carta of which I understood British law to be founded on states "The punishment for the crime should be no greater that the crime itself" Well who are the victims in the THC4MS case, I imagine and know the only victims are Mr and Mrs Gibson, who have lost their business down to the case, with Mrs Gibson now on Anti Depressants and with worsening symptoms of MS and Mr Davies who has had to travel a great distance on several occasions whilst himself suffering a range of illnesses causing pain. And of course the taxpayer who foots the £7,000 bill!
It is hard to imagine the pain someone suffers unless you could be them for a day, unfortunately the people who bought this case can have no knowledge of such pain and suffering MS can cause.
Ms Lindly has been aware of my petition with almost 4,000 signatures since the case was bought, she is also aware many UK citizens have now confessed to helping thc4ms on the Legalise Cannabis Alliance Forums.
The judge closed the case with comments that he hoped this case was not bought to court as a political debate, and I have to ask, when will this debate take place? The government say they do not make the laws and it is down to the police and justice system, yet in many cases it seems the judge is having to exercise the law he no longer agrees with.
I have absolutely no faith in this government, when the very beginnings of this case started with Biz Ivol of the Orkneys, who Prime Minister discussed in his question time in 2003, who died after fighting a two year case with the courts. The government have been aware of the THC4MS group since its existence and instead of embracing a simple way to help the sick, they have punished the group and their patients.
Contaminated cannabis has flooded the streets of Britain for 6 months, how many of THC4MS patients will now die because they inhale or eat glass, or fibreglass when they take to scoring off the street? Is it time medical patients could grow their own medicine? Is it time that for public health reasons recreational users should also be allowed to grow to avoid the threat of illness from a contamination the government is doing little to publicise?
I know there are people that will never agree with cannabis, but there are people that need it.
Its worth remembering Henry Fords first car was made and fuelled by hemp (cannabis) in this world of environmental crisis its about time the government woke up and saw how many ways cannabis could benefit the UK.
I promised Biz Ivol I would do everything in my power to change the cannabis laws, and now I watch another woman suffering the pain and anguish Biz did, this case is paramount to torture and the government must change the laws to either allow their medicine Sativex to all MS patients immediately on the NHS, or allow those with doctors confirmation the right to self medicate, if they do not, it seems this government are becoming terrorists themselves, as so many ill people are terrified of using the only medicine that works for them.
Yours
Therapeutic Help from Cannabis for Multiple Sclerosis THC4MS
Therapeutic Help from Cannabis for Multiple Sclerosis THC4MS
try not to get choked by lezleys emotion. it was a very emotional time, and many reporters were also seen in tears after talking to lez
It's fucking dusgusting that they can do that. Fucking disgusting.
That's just made me even more proud to smoke cannabis, and i'll fight for it whereever i go.
I know what im doing tonight, im going to write some letters to some MP's.
Another day is over and its time to go to bed.
All day I've suffered pain from my toes up to my head.
I have pain killers provided by the nhs,
for this awfull illnes known as MS.
It must cost a fortune what a waste of cash,
when all I need is a square of choc-hash.
The tablets don't work I can't sleep for the pain,
I will lay in agony in my bed yet again.
I wait for the postman to come to my door,
but my cannabis chocolate doesn't come any more.
This was my lifeline I could sleep at night,
the pain went away and life was again bright.
I could get up on my own and potter about
now I can't walk and I never get out.
I am aching all over and starting to sweat,
why hasn't my cannabis chocolate come yet.
Without the chocolate my lifes not worth living,
I'm told thc4ms has had to stop giving.
The law says its wrong they have been charged with dealing,
all they are doing is actually healing.
found this on the website says it all
nice one lip, loving the avatar too, howard will be impressed xQuote:
Originally Posted by LIP
I love Howard.
My only goal in life to get cannabis fully legalised, with no "maxium" amount.
One day that'll be a reality, and i'll do whatever i have to do to get it.
My mate told me that he had a dream on friday night that me and him were outside 10 downing street and that twat blair came out, so i was shouting legalise cannabis at him. He got in his car and when he did, according to my mate i went mental and just before he shut the door i pulled him out and shot him in the head.
Now thats a fucked up dream, but i keep thinking about it, i wonder if that's what i've got to do to get it legal. Probably not, but it amused my mate.
Shame it wouldnt work, because if that's all we had to do to get it legal i'd shoot that tit in a heartbeat. Yeah, it's murder, but it's nothing compated to what they're doing to people who need a harmless plant.
Im also going to start printing off sheets with all the good facts about cannabis, and start throwing them out of my van as i drive around. It's like tesco, every little helps./
i have been trying to write some letters about cannabis to mps but i aint too literate... maybe you wouldnt mind if i edited your a little?