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k, yes it's been done, but it's been awhile. maybe people have reformed their opinions in the matter.
btw, price doesn't count... let stick to the actual specs of them.... not just the games that are released as of now (because of course lol, xbox has been out longer and had more chance so far to produce games) but... the potential..
i've said it before and i'll say it once more 360 owns ps3 ~
i said this too, there was a sony employee that was talking smack about his own product (ps3) he got fired for it because it got out somehow.
so when your employees are talking shit and saying that the 360 is better , the 360 is better!
after playing both, PS3 > XBOX 360, but Wii owns all.
Well raw specs says that the ps3 is better, but that doesn't mean anything. The xbox 1 was stronger, but sales figures will show the ps2 as the winner.
ps3 all the way, its one sick piece of machinery, although there are less games and more costly, it deffinately owns the 360, hands down
ps3
I heard microsoft paid sony to launch their 360 1 year before the ps3 cause if not, they would have been pwned by sony lol
I didnt see the option in the poll, but man, I got a ps2 and dats all I need...I dont spend my life playin fuckin video games. Only ddr. Oh well, its a great sport so its not like wastin your time.
360
though the ps3 has somewhat better graphics, that in no way makes up for its crappy online play for all of its games.
xbox live is the best reason to get 360 because there are sooo many people on live and it matches you up against people of your skill level.
get 360, get live, get to it!!!:D
ps3 all the way, just give it some time for the kick ass games to come out for it. 360 didn't get real popular when it first came out and now with 1 year behind it, its got a huge fan base. So really we have yet to see what the PS3 is capable of since it just came out. Give it a year and the PS3 will have much better games than 360 and a much bigger fan base and Sony will once again rule the system war. The Wii is a great system but its just to kiddish for me.
xbox 360 is probably better right now, because of it was made about a year ago, and alot of games already came out for it, as for ps3, it's just about a month old, so we'll see what happens in a year. Everybody's view is gonna change, watch.
for right now, id say 360 cuz ps3 hasnt come out with many of their best games, and the games that are out right now for it are also out on the 360, but when more games come out, then itll be different
that would be the stick with the oldies option.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaryjaneAndHashley
btw :p i'm getting my ps3 either way, cuz i've been a sony 'fanboy' since the very begining i'm just curious if anyone has changed their mind...
i'm also taking into account for my decision the fact xbox has had a much larger time span to put out games, while ps3 hasn't even had a chance yet... (btw when i say 'games' and systems together, i'm not talking about games that are on multiple systems, i'm talking about games that are ONLY on that sytem, like halo (before it was put on pc) was only on xbox and GTA was only on playstation before pc...)
I got the 360 and am loving it. I have no need for a PS3 or Wii anytime soon.
I could have sworn it was proven 360 actually has better graphical power where as the PS3 has better CPU or "Cell" as they call it. The thing is PS3's "Cell" is actually harder to work with or so I hear. I'm basing this on tests other people have done, so it may not be true.
I chose Wii as it's the console I have come to love at the moment.
The only downside of the Wii is the game selection right now. Too many kiddie games, bar a few, but right now I think they are going for more of an active family fun kind of kick. Games like Wario Ware and Rayman Raving Rabbids and Wii Sports are games that are fun and active that anyone can learn and play. My parents even bought a Wii for themselves and love the sports game. Also, once companies figure out better ways to use that remote to its full potential, its going to be an awesome machine. I can't wait for a real MLB baseball game and more action games.
btw, i hate wii :p i love nintendo... but damnit i just hate the wii... not to mention all the SHITTY games i've seen so far... they're all so.... kiddie? i dunno how to say it.. anyways read my quote...
zelda ocarina of time was a classic, mario 64 a classic... hell nintendo invented the 'classic games' before microsoft or sony even thought of putting out a console, but i'm so dissapointed in this system it's just uncomprehendable to me.... i just see them basing everything off this controller, trying to incorperate it into everything.... the makers/designers thought the controller would be the strength of the system.... but in reality, atleast to me, it's their weakness
which is all good, cuz to me nintendo has always been a 'family system'... but i haven't known too many families anymore that play the same system... everyone in the family has their own if they even play at all lol.... it sounds like i have a problem with wii.. i just think it has it's flaw's as every other single console in existance has had... it's just not for me... and not for alot of people..Quote:
Originally Posted by dejayou30
and btw i can figure out a perfect way to incorperate football/baseball games, but it would require a footpad, like sony has for the 'dance games'...
the developers said it is using 'crippled' software that makes using the ps3s full potential damn near impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nation_1ne
its like having a ferrari in manhatten. theres just no room to open it up. the 360 is like a BMW in kansas. not quite as fast, but it can work with what it has.
I've heard the same complaint with the ps3 cell processor. It reminds me of when the N64 was out. It was super fast and powerful (for the times back then), but it was a bitch for devs to work with. I think that's when nintendo decied to not give a damn about how fast it will process, but how developer friendly it is.
Sony is known to be not so devoloper friendly with its new systems but thats because of its high end tech in its new systems, meaning very complex and new hardware to adapt to. Time is still needed in order for Sony to achieve its full potential with the PS3, I see it becoming the best system by the end of this year. I really cannot wait till Metal Gear Solid 4 and the new Resident Evil comes out, the videos are mad!
i wanted to vote for both of them 2 fucking pukka computers
" AS if Sony hasn't suffered enough embarrassing news and set backs in the
recent months regarding the train-wreck that the PS3 is becoming (MASSIVE & un-recoverable PS3 development problems, PS2 sales at a stand still, Root
kits, PSP being destroyed by the DS, etc.) ...now a Sony PS3 developer comes out with the truth that many of us have feared, that the XBOX 360 really IS superior to the PS3. What horrible news for Sony, can nothing go right for the PS3?
It's bad enough the PS3 is utilizing a crippled system architecture and
hardware components that videogame developers world wide both despise and mock. But do the developers themselves have to reveal that fact? Can't they leave anything up to the imagination anymore? Sure the PS3 games won't live up to hype, but we as Sony fans are used to being let down just a wee bit by the playstation brand in general. I suppose it's official now, the PS3 is doomed to fail but I will still get one anyway. Lets hope that in the next generation, Sony wakes up, and creates a well designed PS4 that will
actually be able to compete with the successors to the Xbox 360 & Revo "
read em an weep.
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my friend got a 360, and he was like "the graphics are so fucking awsome".
so i checked it out, its NOT much better then the PS2
im really disapointed in the 360.....have not played PS3 yet
360 sucks fat-megga-ass
not much better then the ps2, try making gears of war, splinter cell double agent, Condemned,G.R.A.W. on the ps2, it would look like shit and impossible and half of the ps3 games were transfered from the 360, its all about the games, and theres nothing on the ps3 except Resistance of man that is actual a buy but still dosent compare to gears in graphics even thought the ps3 has a little more juice then the 360, technically the 360 has more hp that it can produce more polygons then the ps3 but the ps3 has a better techture proccessor, its only 300$ more cause of the blue ray and 1080p that has nothing to do with graphics, go with 360, alot of the games transferd to the ps3 look better on the 360 which all the reviews say
the only thing ps3 have got on the 360 is mgs4
true
What res was the high-def screen you were playing on? I just can't see anyone saying that after playing call of duty 3 at 1080i. Play that then go play san andreas. Youll feel like you're playing with lego people.Quote:
Originally Posted by bubblebrain8
i dont care about the system
i care about the games
xbox 360:gears of war and halo 3
ps3:who cares
after every game xbox has put out... the only game that's ever caught my eye was gears of war... halo was ok for about the first 15 minutes...
same shit happened to me. i was at the mall 1 day playing the PS3 and the dude there representing it told me not to buy it. i couldnt agree more after playing itQuote:
Originally Posted by higher4hockey
how many threads are goin to be made about this anyway :cool:
360>PS3
ill stick with the oldies. havent played the wii(interested in though) or the ps3, but i have a 360. and i fucking hate it.
I've got a Xbox 360 and a Wii. I'm loving both.
There is nothing on the PS3 yet that I need to play. Resistance is good but, not worth the price of admission.
PS3 looks like it could have some cool games but the cons outway the pros. Blueray is almost destined to fail and the lack of a ventilation fan means you don't just have an oversized burning hot machine, but one that crashes up to 3 times a day aswell. Doesn't sound worth the price tag to me, particularly when you consider how nearly all the decent games will come out on Xbox at the same time.
I'd recommend a Wii above all else but i'm aware it's an acquired taste for some people. All I can say is Nintendo won't screw you over in the long run. With a Wii, your set for life. :D Otherwise, good ol' 360 in second!
Agreed with Halo, how average can one overhyped game be? :wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
I'm liking the 360 exclusives. Dead Rising is a great concept if a little frustrating:hippy: , plus Viva Pinata and Oblivian are fantastic.
PS3 really needs some first hand exclusive ideas of it's own but so far, it's a PS2 with better graphics. I couldn't believe how boring I found resistance after seeing and hearing so much hype. Not how the cookie crumbles Sony. :p
they're already planning for the overheating... a couple of companies are making a relatively cheap add on... a fan that kinda just clicks on to the unit... it's not huge, so it doesn't take up a whole lot more space... doesn't require an ac adapter or anything, it runs off the power to the ps3...
Lol, typical of Sony to charge extra for something that'll stop your console from breaking. :jointsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
I predict severe dissapointment from the Sony fanbase as is already evident in America, perhaps with the exception of the true PS-heads, and Wii dominates with 360 being the choice for next-gen-graphic-mongers :D .
sony isn't the ones making it... madcatz has one... and i don't remember what the other company was.
Хboх 360 System Performance - Draft
Custom IBM PowerPC-based CPU 3 symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each
2 hardware threads per core; 6 hardware threads total
1 VMX-128 vector unit per core; 3 total
128 VMX-128 registers per hardware thread
1 MB L2 cache
CPU Game Math Performance 9 billion dot product operations per second
Custom ATI Graphics Processor 500 MHz
10 MB embedded DRAM
48-way parallel floating-point dynamically-scheduled shader pipelines
Unified shader architecture
Polygon Performance 500 million triangles per second
Pixel Fill Rate 16 gigasamples per second fillrate using 4X MSAA
Shader Performance 48 billion shader operations per second
Memory 512 MB GDDR3 RAM
700 MHz DDR
Unified memory architecture
Memory Bandwidth 22.4 GB/s memory interface bus bandwidth
256 GB/s memory bandwidth to EDRAM
21.6 GB/s front-side bus
Overall System Floating-Point Performance 1 TFLOP
Storage Detachable and upgradeable 20 GB hard drive
12X dual-layer DVD-ROM
Memory unit support starting at 64 MB
I/O Support for up to 4 wireless game controllers
3 USB 2.0 ports
2 memory unit slots
Optimized for Online Instant, out-of-the-box access to Xbox Live features, including Xbox Live Marketplace for downloadable content, Gamer Profile for digital identity and voice chat to talk to friends while playing games, watching movies or listening to music
Built in Ethernet Port
Wi-Fi Ready: 802.11 A, B and G
Video Camera Ready
Digital Media Support Support for DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, CD-DA, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, WMA CD, MP3 CD, JPEG Photo CD
Stream media from portable music devices, digital cameras, Windows XP PCs
Rip music to Xbox 360 hard drive
Custom playlists in every game
Windows Media Center Extender built in
Interactive, full screen 3D visualizers
HD Game Support All games supported at 16:9, 720p and 1080i, anti-aliasing
Standard definition and high definition video output supported
Audio Multichannel surround sound output
Supports 48 KHz 16-bit audio
320 independent decompression channels
32-bit audio processing
Over 256 audio channels
System Orientation Stands vertically or horizontally
Customizable Face Plates Interchangeable to personalize the console
now the ps3
Here are the official technical specifications for the PS3, taken directly from Sony:
CPU
Cell Processor
PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
1 VMX vector unit per core
512KB L2 cache
7 x SPE @3.2GHz
7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs
7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE
* 1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy
total floating point performance: 218 GFLOPS
GPU
RSX @550MHz
1.8 TFLOPS floating point performance
Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels
Multi-way programmable parallel floating point shader pipelines
Sound
Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell- base processing)
Memory
256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz
System Bandwidth
Main RAM 25.6GB/s
VRAM 22.4GB/s
RSX 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read)
SB< 2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)
System Floating Point Performance
2 TFLOPS
Storage
Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1
I/O
USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0)
Memory Stick standard/Duo, PRO x 1
SD standard/mini x 1
CompactFlash (Type I, II) x 1
Communication
Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2)
Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g
Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR)
Controller
Bluetooth (up to 7)
USB 2.0 (wired)
Wi-Fi (PSP)
Network (over IP)
AV Output
Screen size: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
HDMI: HDMI out x 2
Analog: AV MULTI OUT x 1
Digital audio: DIGITAL OUT (OPTICAL) x 1
Disc Media
CD PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM, CD-DA, CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW, SACD, SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD, DualDisc, DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)
DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW
Blu-ray Disc: PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE
so yea specs wise fuck the 360.
gameplay and affordability are different in that case yea fuck the ps3.
PS3 rules all once gta IV comes out bye bye x-box but ive played the system with the hdmi cables and on a big screen HDTV the picture and the brightness is amazing
xbox live on 360 will beat your ass, kind of like gears of wars. all ps3 has going for them is that (i have to admit) badass game resistance. game is sick
im pretty sure that game is also coming out on the xbox 360....Quote:
Originally Posted by O. G. ganja smoker
sony fucked up.. grand theft auto was one of the best games out for playstation... and now its gonna be released with the 360 too... oh well... have ne of you guys played saints row??? pretty badass..