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Oh man, I just got back from my first set of two classes for college. Classrooms full of guys and girls who think they are the greatest thing on earth. I mean I get along with everyone fine, but mostly when I meet people I just sense this aura of assholeness. When a person doesn't have that however, I usually become friends with that person.
Jesus, not again! This shit is getting old. Anyone else get tired of this same old shit?
When i used to go school the teachers always told me how much id miss it once i left
They were lying. :D
Aren't you 16? and I did miss high school, but college really is a totally different game and it consists of a bunch of fuckin people trying to prove themselves to one another.
...so....similar to high school?
Touche
Haha.
The two are definitely different in their own rights, but oddly enough, they are all too the same. People trying to impress people, for a date or whatever.
But it still beats high school for the sole reason that we're not stuck in class all day. However, the work is substantially lengthier. But it's a step closer to being *free*.
I notice the aura of assholeness with most people......
I don't like people who try to show up others, and talk about themselves like they are a gift from god.
It's not just school. It's the same way at work sites and such. Everywhere.....
But just like a cool breeze, march to the beat of your own drum. Be nice to everyone :)
Ugh I remember that from college. Yuckeroos.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2600HERTZ
But the funny thing is, now I realize that the asshole-itude was probably more of a defense mechanism for most of those people, who are just as nervous as you are meeting a WHOLE new crowd, in a whole new place...
Some people just deal with stress by becoming jerks, and some people just smoke a bowl and ignore it, and others deal with it by diving into their work (fucking nerds! Always blowing the curve lol!!!!) and not talking to anyone!
But every time you have to deal with them, remember that they are not going to make big points being like that, and by the time graduation rolls around, they will have been through more roommate drama, more social mishaps, more irritated professors, and eventually more interviews gone bad because of their overall bitchiness... leaving you nice guys coming off looking pretty damn good!
So hey, they are doing you a favor in the long run.
And you're getting closer to wOOT financial freedom and your very own awesome pad to grow all the ganj you could ever want!
:D
ugh....college most certainly is like high school. i go to school with a very large population of self-doting preppy cheerleaders and lacr osse players. it hard for a short haired hippy like me to pind peace amidst a sea of bobbling blonde ponytails and polo shirts
I'm a senior in high school now. I'm definately not ready for college. My highschool is full of people the total opposite of me and I'm fearing college will be the same. Just more people, lol.
do you know a girl named betsy? you guys could be hippies together cause she hates most of the people there (salisbury right?) too.Quote:
Originally Posted by BizzleLuvin
I loved high school. Did alot of drinkin' fuckin' and skippin'. I was even prom king/homecoming king. (small school ~100 per class)
I love college. Do alot of drinkin' fuckin' skippin' and smokin'.
I don't really know alot of people from class, everyone I know I meet at parties. I keep to myself while in class unless someone really has to talk to me.
Keep your school friends and your party friends separate.
things work alot different in england :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 2600HERTZ
you do realise you can do those things without going college as well, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by ValkyrieAg
well.. apart from the skippin part but still, if you skip so much.. why even bother going? you can still do those 3 other things WITHOUT going college.. and you wont be wasting teachers time either
If you aren't going to college then you are most likely working. I refuse to work while I am still in school. I can work the rest of my life. (which i won't but you know what i mean).
You have to realize that college is alot different from high school. My professors don't know my name. They don't care about my grade. They could have up to 1000 students in their lectures in one day. (i go to one of the biggest schools in the US and we've actually got the biggest campus in the US)
As long as they get my $65k dollars in exchange for a degree, they don't care. I am not wasting anyones time which is why I go for classes where there are 4-5 tests and thats it. No assignments.
I agree billion, school is a waste of money.....its mainly about that piece of paper that gets you a $40k/yr job off the bat doing some job a monkey could do.
When I went to college to get my HS, the people there were awesome. I mean, there would be the odd one person who annoyed you, but that was only in my one class on my last year. It was due to being there for almost 2 straight years too. Doing upgrading is in a compressed time period. While HS is a jackoff session with Sept-June periods, in college, each class was in 3 months. All the lessons, plus final exam, so I guess after that long, I was at wits end and was very tired.
Anyways, sounds like this is HS to me. People aren't immature like they are in HS, think they "are the greatest thing on earth." That's HS man. College is pretty chill and not so judgemental.
How do you know they think they are the greatest things on earth? Did they announce it somehow? Or are these just things that you're imagining? ;)
Facial gestures, how they act when you are the first to speak or say something friendly. It seems there are many ways.
I know what you mean, you just have to be more professional and mature in a sense. Impress yourself, not others? bleh
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Originally Posted by B-Dizzle
It's a whole different group of people and a whole new world. It's the beginning of the start of your adult life. (scary as it is...I'd still rather be at home if given a choice. lol it's hard out here)
you know a lot of the time, people will be a jerk off to you, when they can tell you think they are a jerk off...
College is highschool plus, But get over it, there are a lot of people who go to college to learn and get the fuck out of there. Just meet the right people. You're not going to do so by thinking everyone is an asshole when you first meet people.
No doubt youre a good person, but based off this i wouldnt invite you back to my place to smoke a bowl. I tend not to like people who dislike me for no reason.Quote:
mostly when I meet people I just sense this aura of assholeness. When a person doesn't have that however, I usually become friends with that person.
Sorry to be standoffish what i should have said is the world is big, not everyone is the same. It's just prejustice is something that hits close to home.
I have to get out of the habit of sending a post, then editing it. That 5 min rule is pretty lame
College is highschool plus, But get over it, there are a lot of people who go to college to learn and get the fuck out of there just like you. Meet the right people by being social and friendly from the start. meeting people is hard when your shit doesn't skink (ha, joke)
No doubt youre a good person, but based off what you said. i would never invite you back to my place to smoke a bowl. People tend to avoid people that dislike them.
Sorry to be so standoffish, what i should have said is the world is big, not everyone is the same. It's just prejustice is something that hits close to home.
In England we leave at 16. I left before that, and i turned out great.
No no, (though i do sometimes do this), i don;t assume they are an asshole first, it i this aura of being an asshole they put off that makes me think they are an asshole. I am as a general rule always the first to speak and am almost always entirely sincere.
I have some St.germain going right now... Man..and I am high, and I have class in about 30 minutes. Yes!
I doubt even ten percent are dicks. Theyre probably not assholes youre just jumping your guns to judge
But i am not saying they "are" dicks. I am saying they put on this front as if they want to come off that way.
OR you need to work on reading people better?
Just a thought...
That's what college is for..you get an education both in the classroom and outside it.
Now be that social butterfly who's NOT too quick to misjudge people. ~
They are probably just not secure enough in themselves yet to just be friendly and chill to strangers.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2600HERTZ
So your job (well along with getting good grades, lol) is to be that person who has a warmer aura and makes the effort to at least show that you are ready to meet new folks when they are ready to meet you, ya know?
Sure you can, and then you can get a shitty job since you don't have a degree. Sounds like a mad good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billionfold
You have no idea what your talking about. I left school early, with no qualifications, and now im a manager. I earn all the money i need to pay the bills, buy my food, buy stuff to make me comfortable, put clothes on my back and still have enough to buy my weed. And i buy alot of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomorrow Never Knows
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Originally Posted by LIP
Yo,
Its a bad idea to star out a reply "You have no idea what your talking about", when that very statement applies to you. It has been well documented that those with a HS (College in UK) diploma make more then someone without one. Those with a (US) College degree make more then those with only a (US) HS diploma. Sure there are a few exceptions, there always are; that is not the point. I am happy you have money to buy food, good job! However the fact of the matter is, as a whole, the higher level of education you gain the more cash you will have. Sorry I had to be the one to break it to you.
Maybe you would have learned this if you stayed in school. :)
This is important...
Realize that everybody is afraid of each other
and nobody wants to look bad, everyone wants to look good.
In the US, you can't even get by without ~20k/year. I personally use about 15k/year but I budget and I am still in college....and I still don't get everything I need and I also live in an area with a *low* cost of living.
A decent pay rate wo/degree in the US is about 12/hr. Thats medicore work. Shoveling shit gets you about 6/hr. That is about 13k/yr and 26k/yr respectively. Not great.
Not only does a degree help you earn a higher salary, but it puts you in a position to get full insurance for you and your family. $$$
So yeah, if a person is all Bill Gates-smart-don't-need-no-stupid-college.....then yeah, all a degree does is help you get a leg up.
If you are more like me, more common sense than brains, get your ass to college, get a degree and thank yourself for it in the end. With loans nowadays, *anyone* can go to college if they wanted. Besides, college is fuckin' awesome.
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Originally Posted by thcbongman
But I am a gift from god, I am one of those people he must surly have shaped the mind of with his own hand.
but seriously, school sucks, I am tired of learning things that I know better than my teachers. This new school I am going to must think we are all mentally handicapped. I am learning geometry that I learned in algebra one.
Then again my teacher taught us most of the geometry book in algebra one because we got done early.
but still.
Math is my worst skill. However, I have to stand up for Geometry. I feel it is the only high level math that a person will ever use.
Plus, it has pictures! You can visualize.....visualize......visualize....:rastasm oke:
Well im so glad im an exception.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomorrow Never Knows
Qualification mean nothing. It's a bit of paper.
You have two people waiting for a job. One has all the qualifications in the world, the other [me] has absolutly none.
The guy with the qualifications cant fix an engine, the guy without the qualifications can. Who do they hire? Me.
If you want something enough, qualifications dont come into it. You dont need them to get a job, you need to WANT the job, and do everything to can to get it.
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Originally Posted by LIP
Sorry. I think you got this wrong. If you are applying for a job and it is between you and another person. If he can't fix an engine....then he doesn't have qualifications.
I know people with their little A+ certs and all that bullshit and they can't even config a router.
If it were me and you, I could fix an engine....I have a degree. I'll get the job.
Well, that depends what company were "applying" for.Quote:
Originally Posted by ValkyrieAg
If it's a small company they'd actually hire me as they could pay me less.
Concidering i've been working for years, for the same company, i know how it works. It may be differnt in america, thanks god im never going to have to find out.
And you'd be surprised how many people i've met with all these qualifications from doing tests on paper, but when they come face to face with a engine they dont know the first thing about it.
Oh no, I totally agree. I know my way around an internal combustion engine just as good as the next person and know how it is when someone talks about something they either know nothing about or think they know.
Just because you have the qualifications/certifications doesn't mean it will get you a job. But a degree/certification is usually a tie breaker.
Alot of jobs here in the US, if you don't have a degree, don't bother. But then again its always about who you know.
My friend just got a job literally 30 feet from his house selling oilfield equipment for 57k/yr. No he doesn't have a petroleum degree, but he is qualified (learned everything from his father) and the job was offered to him. If the job wasn't offered and he didn't know the owner of the company and he came to him with his lame ass HS Diploma and degree, he would be laughed right out of the room.
That's how i got my job. I already knew the owners of the boat yard i work for now, they knew me before i was born lol, i was jut a bump. So, they've seen me grow up. I've grown up knowing them. So all these years later im working for em. I mean, i wanted to do marine engineering since i was about 6, and i was so determined, i just went hell for leather for it and got it. Yes, i know im lucky, but it's not impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by ValkyrieAg
I know qualifications help, lol, it's obvious rofl, but they're not the most important thing. The most important thing is that you can show them you can do the job to a profesional level, know everything about what your working with, can do it quickly and effeicently and want to do it.
Or get a degree, go to another company and make more money. That's the scenario. Companies don't hold out for the one person who knows alot but works for less. If that's you, then you've undersold yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by LIP
But you dont know how it works.Quote:
Originally Posted by LIP
It's not about you. lol
As stated in another post It's a known fact that a college degree brings in the cash period. It's no different in America. To argue otherwise is plain silly.
Another thing college does for you, broadens your horizons. Always good to have knowledge in 2 different fields.
This sounds like you're talking about someone from a trade school. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by LIP
Alot different than college. Who learns about engines on paper but doesn't get their hands on them? Sounds like a pretty crummy school system in your area. Glad I'll never find out.