Weed not being addictive is a myth

After reading a lot of posts on this forum, I've noticed that a lot of you seem to have the false idea in your head that weed isn't addictive. I don't know if you've been lied to or are just kidding yourselves. It's been proven scientifically and by my own experience that it's both physically and psychologically addictive.

When quitting smoking after I've been smoking daily I have insomnia, loss of appetite, and irritability for a couple of days. The insomnia often lasts much longer.

Of course this is nothing when compared with withdrawals from other substances, but this doesn't mean that weed isn't addictive.

If you would like me to find the research I can, but you all should know how to use google.

ur stupid man those are just symptoms in your head that you can easily overcome while other drugs you HAVE to have them or you will get sick. i smoke every day then i take breaks sometimes and i dont feel anything wrong, id just like to get high thats all

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Originally Posted by acrca

ur stupid man those are just symptoms in your head

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I knew somebody would say that. Tell that to my brain after 36+ hours of no sleep.

sounds like someone's got a weak will...

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Originally Posted by Polymirize

sounds like someone's got a weak will...

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Not at all. I think about smoking weed, but I haven't smoked in a week.

dude, there's no chemical compound in weed to make it physically addictive... there is no phyical withdrawl, it doesn't put any chemical in your body that your body becomes dependant upon.. and i'm actually betting you can't find these articles and that prove it physically addictive...

it can be, however psychologically addictive, and i am a victim of that... anything can be psychologically addictive... all the way down to water.. because it's psychological.... the brain makes alot of things possible... and things that create euphoria or pleasure, actually have a high rate of becoming psychologically addictive person to person..

i still will wait for you to show me any scientific article (and none of this government funded crap....) that shows how weed is physically addictive... until then, don't get the conclusion in your head that just because you can't say no, that it's phsyically addictive..

mentally addictive... not phyically addictive.. it has some addictiveness to it.. if you smoke tabbaco ud see what real addiction is

I'm looking for the study now, sorting through the government's bullshit.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0511134634.htm

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Nearly two-thirds of the participants reported experiencing four or more symptoms of marijuana withdrawal, including anxiety, aggression, and irritability.

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Originally Posted by Halcy0n

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0511134634.htm

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haha i really diddnt think he could do it

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Originally Posted by acrca

haha i really diddnt think he could do it

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but thats just talking about psycological withdrawl, not physical

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Originally Posted by acrca

but thats just talking about psycological withdrawl, not physical

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I would consider all of those to be physical effects. Anyway the terminology doesn't matter, the fact is that it is addictive.

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Originally Posted by Halcy0n

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0511134634.htm

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those are still psychological effects, not physical...

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Originally Posted by Halcy0n

I would consider all of those to be physical effects.

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whatever man think wut you want but the truth is your wrong :stupid:

anything else? I'd really like to see a study that includes a larger sampling than 14-19 year olds. Not that this study isn't impressive on its own.

I mean, just to consider your random sampling of 14-19 year olds, what are the odds that they're anxious, aggressive or irritable just because of where they're at in life, regardless of substance? Something pretty close to 60 percent or so one might guess?

Dare i ask for the study on adults that they seem to say they're comparing it to?

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Originally Posted by Polymirize

anything else? I'd really like to see a study that includes a larger sampling than 14-19 year olds. Not that this study isn't impressive on its own.

I mean, just to consider your random sampling of 14-19 year olds, what are the odds that they're anxious, aggressive or irritable just because of where they're at in life, regardless of substance? Something pretty close to 60 percent or so one might guess?

Dare i ask for the study on adults that they seem to say they're comparing it to?

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That study says the same thing happens with adults. And there's other studies out there, that's just the first one I found. I'm too lazy to find more, cause I'm a stoner ;)

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Originally Posted by Halcy0n

I would consider all of those to be physical effects. Anyway the terminology doesn't matter, the fact is that it is addictive.

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You can't spell gullible without u.

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Originally Posted by Halcy0n

After reading a lot of posts on this forum, I've noticed that a lot of you seem to have the false idea in your head that weed isn't addictive. I don't know if you've been lied to or are just kidding yourselves. It's been proven scientifically and by my own experience that it's both physically and psychologically addictive.

When quitting smoking after I've been smoking daily I have insomnia, loss of appetite, and irritability for a couple of days. The insomnia often lasts much longer.

Of course this is nothing when compared with withdrawals from other substances, but this doesn't mean that weed isn't addictive.

If you would like me to find the research I can, but you all should know how to use google.

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I have been smoking for about 8 years and I have not experienced any kind of physical withdraws whatsoever. Although weed can be psychologically addictive in the mind and can become a habit, there is no credible evidence supporting addiction or withdraws. If it was addictive, it would be ironic because cannabis is sometimes used to treat alcohol addiction and hard drug addiction. I can only go on by what I have experienced and as I have said, I have never experienced an "addiction" to weed. I don't smoke as much as I used to and I am not addicted in any way. I can stop smoking anytime I wanted.

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Originally Posted by Halcy0n

That study says the same thing happens with adults. And there's other studies out there, that's just the first one I found. I'm too lazy to find more, cause I'm a stoner ;)

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Uh huh. I've never let my use of the herb become an excuse. Sounds like you just suffer from a weak will. I don't really need to see these studies because I have personal experience in quitting several times so I'm not going to do your research for you. Feel free to provide actual proof at any time though.

One site that agrees with you doesn't make it true.

I don't feel like searching so here is a quick link that say's your full of shit in a way.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/hottopics/cannabis/

"It may be psychologically addictive. Heavy users can display aggressive impulses if their supply suddenly stops, a side effect similar to that of anabolic steroids"

The BBC is reputable. Read more. One study isn't enough. If it were physically addictive I would not have been able to function these past two weeks without weed. Trust me I have an addictive personality and yup nothing but a slight psycho addiction that I get over in a day with out weed.

You are ignorant and make smokers look bad. It is said when fellow smokers buy into the bullshit. I'm not saying the plant is completely harmless because I'm not sure. But it isn't addictive like ciggs and booze.

ive been smoking herb 4 26 years your reading big bros hype

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

Yes, we acknowledge that. Psychologically addictive. There are many things that are psychologically addictive, and they are legal. So who exactly are you trying to convince?

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anything can be psychologically addictive.

I assume it would be possible to become addicted to t.v. or a certain show in that way. I'm sure there are people out there who "have" to see every episode of American Idol when it airs.

Those people should be shot, but that is beside the point.

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withdrawal symptoms, much like those experienced by people quitting cigarettes, cocaine or other drugs, may make abstinence more difficult to achieve

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Meh, you could have stopped reading right there.

ANYONE with even half a brain knows that Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances on Earth and comparing Weed to Coke LMAO!

This is too funneh:

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Though there is anecdotal evidence that withdrawal makes it more difficult to quit using marijuana and that people use marijuana to suppress withdrawal effects, we still need to more carefully investigate how withdrawal impacts the quitting process

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Hmmm OK....

Polymirize had it one IMHO

I have been a regular smoker since 18 (I'm 30 now) and have on several occassions stopped due to:

1. Personal Choice
2. Circumstances where smoking would have been counter-intuitive
3. Lack of good hookups
4. Travelling somewhere

Now I'm not going to say "everyone is the same as me" but I had no problems stopping (sometimes for a week sometimes months) and I only experienced a little trouble sleeping for 1 or 2 nights after as I adjusted.

I was smoking between 1 and 2 grams per day 7 days a week.

It's all about self control and weed is NOT physically addictive - you have the wrong definition of physically addictive - that's all.

For something to be physically addictive you need it to continue to function. Example: Removing a supply of opiates from a Morphine/Heroin user can actually kill them. Physical addiction goes hand in hand with your body becoming dependant on the substance in question. Remove that substance and parts of your body can begin to fail - seriously.

"Wanting to smoke" is no different to "wanting to wank" or "wanting to play a computer game" or both ;)

THC is not physically addictive, full stop - end of story. You have the wrong definition that's all :) Probably because you are feeling "physical effects" like insomnia and mood changes etc you would equate it with being physically addictive.

Wow Essay! I need to drink less of this addictive coffee!

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

So shoot me. I "have" to watch every new House episode.

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Lol, I was only talking about people who have to watch american idol. I haven't seen house, but I have seen american idol and wish people would quit watching it so they would stop making it. I'm tired of hearing people talking about it or seeing clay aiken all over the fucking tv.

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Originally Posted by Halcy0n

After reading a lot of posts on this forum, I've noticed that a lot of you seem to have the false idea in your head that weed isn't addictive. I don't know if you've been lied to or are just kidding yourselves. It's been proven scientifically and by my own experience that it's both physically and psychologically addictive.

When quitting smoking after I've been smoking daily I have insomnia, loss of appetite, and irritability for a couple of days. The insomnia often lasts much longer.

Of course this is nothing when compared with withdrawals from other substances, but this doesn't mean that weed isn't addictive.

If you would like me to find the research I can, but you all should know how to use google.

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Mentally addictive and habbit forming i'll give you, BUT IT'S DEFINATLY NOT PHYICALLY ADDICTIVE.

If you think it is you dont know what phyical addiction is.

Dont treat us as idiots.

IF cannabis was addictive....

Then why can i smoke everday solid until my Christmas break when I visit family. I am DEFINATELY not smoking near them...out of respect. I'm sure everyone has experienced this. I have never had my friends say "damn Mar, you look horrible....you must be out of weed".

I guess I'm mistaken on what the definition of physical addiction is (I figured wanting it was psychological and actual withdrawal effects were physical.) Big deal. Many people on here claim weed isn't addictive at all. That is the myth I'm trying to dispel.

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Originally Posted by Halcy0n

Maybe I'm mistaken on what the definition of physical addiction is (I figured wanting it was psychological and actual withdrawal effects were physical.) Big deal. Many people on here claim weed isn't addictive at all. That is the myth I'm trying to dispell.

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Well, really it's not. I mean, yeah, it's can become a habbit, but if you havnt got any it's not going to really affect you, mentally or physically.

Not like cigs, heroin, coke and meth.

Cannabis smokers can just stop. And that would be the end of it. They may feel like they want it, but they wouldnt NEED it.

So really i dont think of it as being addictive. Maybe habbit forming at the most.

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Originally Posted by Delta9 UK

I need to drink less of this addictive coffee!

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Oh man, don't get me started on coffee. That stuff seriously is addictive. Physically, psychologically, and deliciously all at the same time.

Page two and this thread is already defeated and diffused? Awwww.:(

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Originally Posted by LIP

Well, really it's not. I mean, yeah, it's can become a habbit, but if you havnt got any it's not going to really affect you, mentally or physically.

Not like cigs, heroin, coke and meth.

Cannabis smokers can just stop. And that would be the end of it. They may feel like they want it, but they wouldnt NEED it.

So really i dont think of it as being addictive. Maybe habbit forming at the most.

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To add to what lip said. Cannabis is as addictive as tv, music, popcorn, sex, porn, etc.

You have proven nothing... and not exactly sure what your point is.

The reason people say that here is because they have never been addicted to it... the thing about psychological addiction is not everyone is affected.

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Originally Posted by ValkyrieAg

Page two and this thread is already defeated and diffused? Awwww.:(

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Not really. Only a small part of it :)

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Originally Posted by Polymirize

Oh man, don't get me started on coffee. That stuff seriously is addictive. Physically, psychologically, and deliciously all at the same time.

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Word!

I love my fresh filtered organic coffee, to be honest I think I'm a little too fond of the weed and coffee combo :stoned:

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Originally Posted by Halcy0n

After reading a lot of posts on this forum, I've noticed that a lot of you seem to have the false idea in your head that weed isn't addictive. I don't know if you've been lied to or are just kidding yourselves. It's been proven scientifically and by my own experience that it's both physically and psychologically addictive.

When quitting smoking after I've been smoking daily I have insomnia, loss of appetite, and irritability for a couple of days. The insomnia often lasts much longer.

Of course this is nothing when compared with withdrawals from other substances, but this doesn't mean that weed isn't addictive.

If you would like me to find the research I can, but you all should know how to use google.

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if it's addictive then how do u explain me stopping in just one day and not smoking again for 6 months so far eh?

also with no side effects.

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Originally Posted by JaggedEdge

Cannabis is as addictive as tv, music, popcorn, sex, porn, etc.

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When I stop eating popcorn I don't have trouble sleeping. Or yell at my gf for stupid reasons. Or feel anxious for no reason.

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Originally Posted by Wesley Pipes

if it's addictive then how do u explain me stopping in just one day and not smoking again for 6 months so far eh?

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Because as I stated it's a pretty weak addiction.

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Originally Posted by Halcy0n

When I stop eating popcorn I don't have trouble sleeping. Or yell at my gf for stupid reasons. Or feel anxious for no reason.

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If you yell at your girl and feel axious because you havnt got weed you must be the only person on this site to do that.

Pretty sad really isnt it.

Oh well.

Still, it's not addictive.

You cant base a statement on your OWN experiece, everyone is differnt, in this case it seems your the odd one out cos your the only one here that cant just stop.

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Originally Posted by LIP

If you yell at your girl and feel axious because you havnt got weed you must be the only person on this site to do that.

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The study I posted says otherwise. The incident I'm referring to wouldn't have happened if I hadn't quit smoking, I guarantee it.

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Originally Posted by LIP

You cant base a statement on your OWN experiece, everyone is differnt, in this case it seems your the odd one out cos your the only one here that cant just stop.

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I'm not only basing it on my own exp. And I never said I couldn't just stop.

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Originally Posted by JaggedEdge

anything can be psychologically addictive.

I assume it would be possible to become addicted to t.v. or a certain show in that way. I'm sure there are people out there who "have" to see every episode of American Idol when it airs.

Those people should be shot, but that is beside the point.

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~cough cough my wife cough~

and BF house is a bad ass show... i have to see everyone too... i even 'have to see' the reruns lol....

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Originally Posted by Billionfold

He meant the withdrawal caused him to be irritable. I guess some kids who smoke weed all the time and don't take breaks won't experience withdrawal. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I've experienced, and so have others. You're in denial if you think otherwise.

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I've never had any withdrawl, but cannabis shouldnt make people angry. Or anxious. With it, or without it.