"tolerance"---NO SUCH THING

i have been seeing more and more posts about this...so i thought i would clear some things up...first of all there is no such thing as smoking "tolerance." Research has shown that the more thc your body takes in decreases your "tolerance"(in fact it is wrong to even use this word) the truth is, the more herb you consume, the better your body becomes at dissolving thc into the bloodstream. so taking a break will not work to reduce the amount needed: smoking more will!!!!...exercise helps get the byproducts of thc out of the fat cells in your body...which is why those drinks to clean ur piss do not work...so the next time someone tells u they've smoked soooo much weed that they dont even get high anymore; u can just laugh knowing that is not even close to true. if anyone wants i will find a link to the more technical reason and research behind this. also....if you want to use way less herb and get a better high; try vaporizing...to add another thing, taking a break from smoking is good for your lungs to heal scarred tissue, but i say why even take a break when you can just vaporize all day long everyday with NO harm to your lungs!!!

wtf?
from personal experience, i disagree.
and vaping to use less and get higher? idk man.

i also disagree from personal experience...i mean come on man, the first like 5 times i got high, i could hardly even function...now, i wake up, blaze all day, and act like nothing is different than it ever was.

i agree 100%. you guys are just looking at it with your eyes squinted so you cant see the whole picture. if you smoke more often you become more and more experienced with the feeling it produces and being more familiar you can handle it better which creates the illusion that you are building tollerance.

Thats complete bull. You dont just get used to the high it actually becomes harder to get as high the more you do it. Its the same with alcohol so dont tell me tolerance isnt real.

so according tou what you just said someone that has only smoked week 2 or 3 times could outsmoke the likes of LIP?

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the more thc your body takes in decreases your "tolerance"

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yea perhaps like umm...
maybe you still get as high as you used to
but now you're aware that your gettin high
so that's more of an edge off the buzz

not sure about that really, just a theory...

"Although tolerance has been shown in laboratory animals, this effect is less clear in humans. In fact, there are many reports of a reverse tolerance. In other words, chronic users may be more sensitive to the effects of THC rather than less sensitive. Research results are not conclusive, but generally, tolerance does not seem to occur."

http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives...0410.Ns.r.html

i've been smoking 8 years, and i can tell you tollerance IS real... there's no doubt about it in my mind... sciencetists half the time make an 'assumption' then come back a couple of years later saying they were wrong and found new evidence to support it being the opposite of what they originally thought.... i bet you none of the scientists doing the studying even smoke weed.... which is why they can even come to the conclusion one doesn't exist... if i smoke a bowl after i haven't had weed in a few weeks, i'll be high as hell, let me go through a half oz, and smoke out of the same stash, in the same pipe, i won't even be half as high as that first bowl did....

Yea man Dissagreed. Nov. 1st I took a break till Dec. 20th - Due to a drug test and other shit. And I used to smoke a hell of a lot before. When I toked up that awsome night I was so blazed it was as if I just started again. Now that its 9 days later instead of a small bowl it takes a bowl now to get me high.

But sometimes though, ill get super blazed one night, and the next outa the same pipe and same weed itll take more to blaze. Might be all about the Thought.

I can see conflicting sides, but I'mma have to side with the stoners on this one, tolerance def. does exist. From experience.

I don't see the scientists smoking the joints themselves, so the effect of tolerance is individual with each toker.

I call shenanigans. I just returned from a long break from smoking . I lit up the day I joined this board and I'm telling you I'm a light weight compared to what I used to smoke. I can 1hit myself everytime right now and feel "affected". Back in the day if I only caught one round in the circle I always did that "am I stoned?" thing. The idea of a bunch of labcoats asking a pothead if he's baked seems funny to me.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

I disagree

I disagree because when I smoked everyday itd take so much more to get high. But now if I take a week or 2 break and smoke for 3 days straight I get so baked.:jointsmile:

the mind is a powerful thing...just look at all the studies with alcohol...give a large group a keg of non-alcoholic beer and by the end of the night everyone will be acting drunk and actually feel the physical effects of it...so if you really think ur not gonna get high, you probly wont get there...also, different types of bud have different potencies, and when you take a break u r probly not getting the same batch. whether u want to believe me or not that is fine, maybe its just me, but id rather believe facts and scientific research than a few pothead's opinions. also, i have been smoking for 5 or 6 years and consistently get good herb. i have found that i have NEVER needed to up the amount i smoke. and as far as the vape goes...i am pretty new to it. i just bought an aromed after shopping for 2 years and trying out just about every one there is...and it conserves bud like crazy. my last Oz of trainwreck lasted about 2 months, and now with the amount ive been using it would be able to last 4-5 months. we'll see what happens this time with the White russian:D

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Originally Posted by YDOISTAYHI

the mind is a powerful thing...just look at all the studies with alcohol...give a large group a keg of non-alcoholic beer and by the end of the night everyone will be acting drunk and actually feel the physical effects of it...so if you really think ur not gonna get high, you probly wont get there...also, different types of bud have different potencies, and when you take a break u r probly not getting the same batch. whether u want to believe me or not that is fine, maybe its just me, but id rather believe facts and scientific research than a few pothead's opinions. also, i have been smoking for 5 or 6 years and consistently get good herb. i have found that i have NEVER needed to up the amount i smoke. and as far as the vape goes...i am pretty new to it. i just bought an aromed after shopping for 2 years and trying out just about every one there is...and it conserves bud like crazy. my last Oz of trainwreck lasted about 2 months, and now with the amount ive been using it would be able to last 4-5 months. we'll see what happens this time with the White russian:D

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that's why i gave you the comparison i did, which was, after not having any for so long, and i smoke a bowl i get high as all fuck, but then at the end of that stash, the same bowl that got me high as hell, doesn't give anywhere near the same effect... because all the weed used in my basis of this subject, was the exact same stash (batch)

if you want to get technical...how do you stash your bud? if you keep it in bag it is probly not as potent as when you first got it...and do you normally smoke shwag or are you talking about quality herb? sometimes i wonder if the typical shwag i see is even worth smoking or if it is even capable of getting you high without using massive quantities: which is not only incredibly bad for your health but also produces a terrible headache in my experience. any way you cut it, the research is there: the "tolerance" u r experiencing is probably created by your mind...just like the feeling of being drunk off nonalcoholic beer when you believe it has alcohol in it.

to be fair, when i first started smoking i had not a clue of what a tollerance is.... so how could my mind make up me having a tollerance, when i didn't even know what one was? and btw, no i don't smoke scwhagg, but it wouldn't matter either way, if i was to build a tollerance at all, i'd build it just as easily to scwhagg, as dank, if that's all you're used and all your smoking it's all you know... and a placebo effect (which you keep pointing out with non-alcoholic beer) has nothing to do with building a tollerance to a chemical that you're keeping in your body.... they're two completely diffrent subjects on two diffrent levels.... make a poll, see how many people feel tollerance is non-existant, to how many really feel it's there based on their own experiences....

That's ridiculous, of course you develop a tolerance after smoking for an extended period of time.

The thing is, for me at least, I still get extremely fucking high from just a few bowls...I just feel more in control of myself. Anyone who's smoked for a long time knows what I mean.

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Originally Posted by YDOISTAYHI

i have been seeing more and more posts about this...so i thought i would clear some things up...first of all there is no such thing as smoking "tolerance."

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If you can sit here and tell me with a straight face that there is no such thing as tolerance than you are a pretty good liar. Try it yourself. Take a break for a month, and at the end of the month when you start blazing again, tell me tolerance isn't real.

i dont no where to side on this

i smoke a looooooottttt of weed, but ive never really had to up my dose each session.

i usaully take about 5 or 6 poppers out of my little bong. Each time i do, i get the same effects.

I think tolerance does exist tho. I get no where near as high as i used to, even if the bud is bomb.

happy tokings

later

Lmao....... wow. Obviously tolerance is real, I wish it weren't... I'd get so ripped off so little. Nice try, if you find some hard facts.. you can try again. Until then, smoke more weed.... and use a bong man... Vaporizers ftl imo

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Originally Posted by Not Enough Herb

i dont no where to side on this

i smoke a looooooottttt of weed, but ive never really had to up my dose each session.

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LMAO!! K... w/e noob toker. NOOOOOOOOOOB.

But yeah, I agree with him (I didnt read this till after I posted), although tolerence is real it's not crazy... like after toking a half quad we are still gonna get the same high off a half quad the next day. We don't have to buy a quad, maybe smoke another popper or something. Tolerance is over a long timespan, but it'd definately real. Remember that alot of things can effect your high and you may think you are more/less stoned than you actually are depending on your enviroment.

i dont know why everyone here is so hostile..but u r right alcohol and bud are completely different things, but i am using it as an example about the absence of alcohol still producing the same physical effects as alcohol, so pretty much ur argument makes no sense there. also, just because everyone thinks there is such a thing as tolerance does not mean there is...many of the myths about smoking are widely believed by smokers. just about everyone thinks those piss cleaner drink things work and they can pass a drug test just by drinking those. that is completely wrong....like u said ur mind gets used to the feeling, but that does not mean u r not as "high". i am wasting my time with this one i can see that...all of u are going to continue on believing it without even thinking there is a possibility that u r wrong. why even come into this post and try to convince otherwise with the only proof u have being "uh i think there is....so there must be"

whatever dude, i'm not here to argue about something as meaningless as to whether a tollerance exists or not.... you're trying to break out of the box, and dispel 'myths' and ok i'll give you that.. but you're trying to bust all the wrong myths open......

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Originally Posted by YDOISTAYHI

also, just because everyone thinks there is such a thing as tolerance does not mean there is...

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Yeah, I got to agree with the man. Just cause everyone thinks the sky is blue dont make it blue. I say it's RED goddamn it and I got a study to prove it.


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Originally Posted by YDOISTAYHI

ur mind gets used to the feeling, but that does not mean u r not as "high".

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they must have changed the definition of tolerance.

Hmm, i'm not sure. Until i read this thread i thought tolerance existed, i still think it does, like others have said, from personal experiance. I don't really care if it exists or not, it won't stop me smoking ganja, so it's all good. I've never really been affected by tolerance badly, i usually always get high from one bubbler.

I know theres a such thing as tolerance by personal experience.. i used to smoke a half ounce a week ur not foolin anybody :p

i agree with this guy on some levels. i smoke blunts everyday but it depends on the day i smoke. some days i smoke just a blunt and other days i could smoke anything up to a half at one time. i have been doing this for about two years and i dont see a change in my tolerance. when i smoke one blunt i am still high. its not like i need two blunts to get that same high after a while. when you stop smoking for a while and you get high again you are just getting use to getting high. cause trust me if there was such thing as tolerance i would have to smoke ALOT of weed to even get high.
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Disagree. I understand what you are trying to say. But I disagree. When i first started smoking, I would roll a blunt and smoke 1/2 of it at 6pm when i got off work. Then at 9pm I would smoke the other half. Then at midnight, i would smoke a joint. Nowadays I burn twice that daily.

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Originally Posted by YDOISTAYHI

i have been seeing more and more posts about this...so i thought i would clear some things up...first of all there is no such thing as smoking "tolerance." Research has shown that the more thc your body takes in decreases your "tolerance"(in fact it is wrong to even use this word) the truth is, the more herb you consume, the better your body becomes at dissolving thc into the bloodstream. so taking a break will not work to reduce the amount needed: smoking more will!!!!...exercise helps get the byproducts of thc out of the fat cells in your body...which is why those drinks to clean ur piss do not work...so the next time someone tells u they've smoked soooo much weed that they dont even get high anymore; u can just laugh knowing that is not even close to true. if anyone wants i will find a link to the more technical reason and research behind this. also....if you want to use way less herb and get a better high; try vaporizing...to add another thing, taking a break from smoking is good for your lungs to heal scarred tissue, but i say why even take a break when you can just vaporize all day long everyday with NO harm to your lungs!!!

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Haven't read the rest of the thread yet but this is FUCKING BULLSHIT. Try this mate, don't smoke for one and a half months and then smoke about 250miligrams in a one hitter, then tell me tolerance is BS, I've been smoking all hols and now im at my peak I need a good couple of spliffs to get really blazed.

Also, from a physical standpoint...my eyes used to get bloodshot as all hell every time I smoked anything, and now that's become quite a rare occasion. How could my mind force my eyes red? I agree that your mindset definitely affects your high, but the placebo effect isn't happening when it comes to tolerence. Any experienced smoker can tell you that.

dude. if i had that reverse-tolerance thing that would be freaking sweet! i consider that a full fledged X-Men super power. I would ask for the costume and to ride in their airplane and shit. like if i was in huge battle and shit, i would just smoke everyone out so they could all chill out ane think things through. hahahhah Patrick Henry is stoned brothers and sisters!!!

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Originally Posted by YDOISTAYHI

i have been seeing more and more posts about this...so i thought i would clear some things up...first of all there is no such thing as smoking "tolerance." Research has shown that the more thc your body takes in decreases your "tolerance"(in fact it is wrong to even use this word) the truth is, the more herb you consume, the better your body becomes at dissolving thc into the bloodstream. so taking a break will not work to reduce the amount needed: smoking more will!!!!...exercise helps get the byproducts of thc out of the fat cells in your body...which is why those drinks to clean ur piss do not work...so the next time someone tells u they've smoked soooo much weed that they dont even get high anymore; u can just laugh knowing that is not even close to true. if anyone wants i will find a link to the more technical reason and research behind this. also....if you want to use way less herb and get a better high; try vaporizing...to add another thing, taking a break from smoking is good for your lungs to heal scarred tissue, but i say why even take a break when you can just vaporize all day long everyday with NO harm to your lungs!!!

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not to start anything, but it's quite easy to say something without facts! i might have overlooked it, but where's your proof? personally, i think tolrence varies per person more than it not existing... i skip a couple weeks of smoking and i can jump in right where i left off, but my buddy can get high on less when he stops for a couple weeks at a time...

I agree with YDOISTAYHI I don't care how much weed I smoked, I could still always get high off a couple hits. I smoked for 5 years daily, weather it was 3 or 4 bowls a day or a few hits off my one hitter I STLL GOT HIGH, and smoking more weed once high as a kite is waisting weed not getting you higher.

I've had idiots smokin MY weed tell me after two bowls with red squintty eyes " dude lets smoke some more I'm not even high, I got a high tollerance? BULLSHIT!

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Originally Posted by bavet

I agree with YDOISTAYHI I don't care how much weed I smoked, I could still always get high off a couple hits. I smoked for 5 years daily, weather it was 3 or 4 bowls a day or a few hits off my one hitter I STLL GOT HIGH, and smoking more weed once high as a kite is waisting weed not getting you higher.

I've had idiots smokin MY weed tell me after two bowls with red squintty eyes " dude lets smoke some more I'm not even high, I got a high tollerance? BULLSHIT!

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i'm (and i'm sure most anyoen else that agrees with me) aren't saying you won't be able to get high off a couple of hits, i (and probably we) are saying you won't get AS high, it just won't be the same... past a point of just 'in your mind' and just becuase you had crack-fiending wanna-bes telling you they're not high, when you damn well know they are, doesn't tollerance doesn't exist... you CAN TELL when someone is high, any stoner can.... if you knew they were high, and they said they weren't.. they just more than likely have a problem.

edit: back when i smoked EVERY day, i could get high off a couple of hits too.. that doesn't mean it was anywhere near the level i was getting when i first picked it up again, or even now, after i take (forcibly or not) a few weeks/months break... i've been smoking for 8 years now, i don't EVER forget what it feels like... so it's not like i just get 'un-used' to it, i'm actually getting higher off the same ammount...

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Originally Posted by YDOISTAYHI

i dont know why everyone here is so hostile..but u r right alcohol and bud are completely different things, but i am using it as an example about the absence of alcohol still producing the same physical effects as alcohol, so pretty much ur argument makes no sense there. also, just because everyone thinks there is such a thing as tolerance does not mean there is...many of the myths about smoking are widely believed by smokers. just about everyone thinks those piss cleaner drink things work and they can pass a drug test just by drinking those. that is completely wrong....like u said ur mind gets used to the feeling, but that does not mean u r not as "high". i am wasting my time with this one i can see that...all of u are going to continue on believing it without even thinking there is a possibility that u r wrong. why even come into this post and try to convince otherwise with the only proof u have being "uh i think there is....so there must be"

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Your a lightweight, deal with it, its not a bad thing.

The proof that tolerance does exist has already been posted, by people who use weed. I'm another who has experience of this and after cutting down for 3 months and stopping(well, give or take the odd joint at work) for a further 3, I can say categorically it does exist. I was getting wasted on half a joint of SOAPBAR when I started smoking regular again, now, 6 months down the line, half a joint of good green will give me a slight buzz, nothing else.
So to say tolerance doesn't exist based on a study by scientists is simply ridiculous.
Differant people have differant tolerance thresholds, thats the part you don't seem to be able to understand.

Everyones body is different on how it reacts 2 weed

i can wake up smoke a blunt be stoned, and at about lunchtime smoke another one be stoned, and at the final blunt be as high as the last 2 sessions.

i dont know about you all but everytime i smoke weed i kinda just chill out its not this big intense high anymore...like it did when i first started smoking , what i like to call a tolerance.

maybe after you take a break you feel extremely ripped because your not used to the being high. Idk and i dont really care at this point, cause one bowl will always get me feeling good. Maybe instead of saying you are tolerant to weed, you should say you are used to weed. This seems more mental than phisical.