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Thinking about doing the FIM technique on a smaller plant. I hope to 1. create more colas, instead of one main cola (on icmag they were saying you can get 8 colas there). The second thing i'm hoping is to slow down the main cola growth, and allowing the lower nodes (which are immature) to catch up. As I understand, the plant will take about 1-2 weeks to continue growth at the top, but in the meantime focuses on the lower nodes... is this correct? anybody do this technique before?
I have---and do do it on all my plants but I'm afraid I can't tell you the mechanics of it.....mine have always done well being topped and I feel it improves the yield significantly but have heard that some strains don't handle it well although I couldn't say which ones. The plants don't grow as tall either; more bush-like so it helps to have good side lighting.
yeah, i have lst... so if 4 colas appeared instead of one, would i be able to lst it? it's an immature plant and theres so much room for more lst if 4 tops appear...
anyone have a pick after the FIM technique?
Yes I did both on mine....I'll see if I can dig up a pic or two...
Ok the first pic is the six I started with and all have been topped twice by this pic..three of them ended up being males. The one on the right front ends up being the plant in pic 2 (with the crappy yellow lighting). That one I topped but did not lst. The last pic is the 2 plants way in the back in pic one....topped twice and then lst'd after being put into flower.
sweet, thanks man!
there's so many branches i can't see where the top split up !! how many colas at the top did you end up w/ after the topping? I heard the FIM can produce up to 8 "main" instead" just the one, but don't know if i believe it
Well depending on the strain you can top quite a bit but there are drawbacks.....everytime you do it you are stressing your plant of course which I have not really had a problem with but maybe others have. The other is that the more you top the more time you have to give the plant to grow new foliage in which extends your vegging time depending upon how many times you do it. The plant in pic 2 ended up with four main colas and don't know how many side ones...I top everything on the plant I can; not just the main stem. Make sure you have a strain that responds well to topping or it could result in a much poorer yield all around.
ic, well i don't plan on topping alot of the plant. Just the very top (where you leave 1/3 of the top bud, and then after 1-2 weeks it splits... i would be leaving the rest as is. it would be done in flowering too.. it's an immature plant.
If you top your plant during the flowering stage you will take off the very nodes that your plant needs to grow the bud. During flowering the plant is concentrating on budding and then croaking. It will NOT grow any new branches during this time. That's why it is important not to top your plant unless you leave enough veg time for the plant to regrow. All you would be doing at that point is cutting down the plant and the very growth it needs to flower with. Topping must be done during the vegging period.
Does every1 know toping and F.I.M.ing are differant.
In fimming you take off half of the growing tip.
I have done this several times and 1 of a few things happen either it tops the plant as normal. It acts like topping but the top bit grows back so you have a bushy plant with a main cola, or several grow back at the top so you get a bushy multi cola plant. Then you can do a bit of lst and make it what ever you want.
Also have a quick look @ this thread
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthrea...19#post1162619
LH you are quite right and I completely went off in the wrong direction! Thanks for clarifying.
Np. Glad to help.
I used the FIM, supercrop, and lst techniques to get mine to bush. I'm also going to try some humbolt county bushmaster if it tries to stretch to much. You are going to have to add another bending/training technique to maximize the new growing potential of the plant.
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instead of cutting the whole tip... move up a little... it will look funny.. but in no time you will see the new growth... and maybe some chopped in half leafs.
I think the bottom line is the total effect
How much light you have , how much room you have, how much time
Now with the fim you want to maximize all the light.
Each time the main stalk is doubled so are the bud sites. Done at the right time you can maximize the total area expossed to the light.
I have used both ways, fim and hedge shears. But admit fim the first two times make sure you have max effect. One = Two,two =4 and if I have time 4= 8 stalks , after that fim its the hedge shears.
I use a stick and trim all tops to that heigth.
Pot is like a whore if it does no put out its gone.
I've.tried.FIMming.again.and.again..The.most.I've. seen.is...
1.the.next.branch.takes.over.as.lead
2.topping.which.I.do.now.with.lst'ing
3.chopped.leaves.that.grow.as.normal
I'm.happy.FIMming.doesn't.work..I.like.the.bushy.u ndergrowth.using.the.space.instead.or.just.a.bushy .top..
oh.I've.been.trying.to.Fim.Northerns.and.Afghanis. btw.....
I just fimed an afghan clone that is 22 days old. See what happens
Afghan hopefully fim!
Maybe a better picture of another plant
Make sure you press the branch where you cut together.
I learned this the hard way, had one plant die.
I use those black clips for papers now and after I cut use that to seal the wound as much as possible.
good luck
Here are some new pictures from, hopefully fim'ed plants
Hopes this helps!
It does slow down the growing.
Hopefully some real experts will step in here and offer their advice. I am just so much an amateur. Better than being an armature I suppose!
I recently played with the F.I.M (Fuck, I missed!) method. Unfortunately, my test subjects were two males and one hermie, but I did infact convince 6 shoots to fight for the top.
I highly recommend this method but only for early-mid veg, and I believe the biggest difference(from topping) may lie in the shape of the cut, ie. the V as opposed to a straight or angled.
Good luck cussin' n' missin'!:thumbsup:
i just read about that fim shit,its too late for me now
ive alreadt started flowering. But next year im doin that shit
multiple colas!!! Fuck yea thats better than multiple orgasms!!
Yeeeeeeehhhhhhaaaaaa!! Im down!!!
FIMing is very difficult to do correctly. Most people who say they are FIMing are only topping. Not only is the placement of the cut critical, but also the shape. It is supposed to be a "U" shape, done with a bent razor blade or something. I have tried it several times, and haven't noticed anything other than topping results. Some people swear by it, but hell, how do you do it correctly?
Maybe fim!
I am still working on it. Here are some pics. These are flowering clones that I tried it on.
Afghan and Juicy Fruit FIM ?
Afghan clones. Fimed? Maybe
Juicy fruit clones hopefully fim! I have no idea!
Juicy fruit clones hopefully fim! I have no idea! Mother plant also.
I think the first picture shows it best!
We will see! Never tried the fim thin on clones in flowering.
I don't think you are supposed to fim during flowering. Like LST and topping, it's supposed to (I think) make more branches, a bushier plant, and more colas. Also those plants don't really look FIMed to me. There should be more branches than normal. (A bushier plant with more colas.)
Which is better? One huge cola totaling 2 oz, or 10 smaller colas totalling 2 oz?
The whole thing is to maximize the size of the plant, to the area.
Light on the floor does not produce bud.
In a small grow you do not have the option to grow a plant 4 ft hight and 4 feet square.
By fim and trimming the plant so it fill up all the growing space and miximizing the light output.
Done right you have all big buds , because you use ALL the light.
The SCROG system works best for the big single bud. But if you get caught with over 99 plants its a federal offence in the U.S.
NOW the real effective way to tell what you have done is the old Grams/Watts/months.
By prying outer leafs and exposing the center and cliping or pinching out the center groth. This is only good for the 1-4 branching of the plant.
At the point of where the branches are long enough. I add chlose pins to the branches to weigh them over.
You can not see the floor, thats when you have a full light use.
Opie: I do not think they are fimed either. I have no idea. These are plants that were cloned when the mother were in flower. I just thought I would try it. There growth did slow down. Then started again. Do you think I should just top them off?
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