god is love (from what ive heard). but love is an idea, not a physical thing. so, neither is god. if love is something that exists only in your head, then god is only in your head.
please share your thoughts on this idea
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god is love (from what ive heard). but love is an idea, not a physical thing. so, neither is god. if love is something that exists only in your head, then god is only in your head.
please share your thoughts on this idea
ive always considered god to be just a personification of energy, it makes sense. god appeared as burning bush before moses, god and/or angels appeared as a blinding light, gave us life (the energy your body produces),
e=mc2 (energy is converted to matter, thus god created us)
and so on and so forth, so basically it all boils down to a worship of energy.
just my thoughts, but i believe that there is no invisible man in the sky that protects people that believe in it from evil.
Then why not call this god "existence", and seek to understand it's true nature? Unless there is a conscious diety behind the workings of the universe, I would say we're not speaking of any god, just the natural processes of the universe. Personally I think the closest thing to god is a "god-consciousness", a pure and enlightened state, perhapse one of great or infinite understanding.
and i believe this would be the buddhist approach, correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by mrdevious
First, Love is not a mere idea, it is a very real spirit. It's not man made, it is born into our psychi, our hearts, souls, and our minds. Animals Love, infants Love, children Love, etc. It is a spirit just like jealousy, and anger, and pride, and bitterness. They are all supernatural forces we all deal with at one time or another, and they are very real.
If God is Love, and I believe he/she/it is, then [it] can make these other not so positive forces go away, or at least decline if embraced. You know Love exists, [Right?] and that it not just something 'mankind' made up, which means if God is Love then his existance can't be denied, either. You can't see Love, but you know what Love is, and what it entails, and you know when others show Love, need Love, and even when they embrace it fully. That is where faith comes in for many believers. Faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen. Those who have faith in Love [God] understand this definition fully.
But if you insist that Love is a mere idea made up by man, then I won't try to change your mind. Just remember that Love extends over into the animal kingdom as well, and something every man, woman, and child can grasp. Life w/o it is like a hell, and a life full of it is like heaven...
(Love is freedom)
~Junk~
i dont love.Quote:
Originally Posted by JunkYard
in fact, im starting to think im incapable of love.
I've always felt that Love was a choice. Any man is capable of Loving others if they so choose to embrace it. Sure, it's hard for some, but if you recieve it, you feel it somehow. They say it's better to give than receive, but I don't know that that's always true.
Much Love, bro and Hapy Holidays!
~Junk~
im not talking about spiritualy, im saying that you cant see or hear love in a plain form, so you cant see or hear god. in idea (i.e. love) is in your head. so is god
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Originally Posted by smoke it
I see what you're saying, and Love [is] in the mind, but also in the heart and soul, and I think it exists outside of our selves as well. You cannot see its form, but you can see it being materialized in both humans and animals through their actions, and even voice. This is the subtance of God, and what I put my faith, and trust in. I know Love is real, and that it exists, [I see it everyday] therefore I know God exsists, also.
Of course, I've always believed in God; I just viewed him in a diferent light for most my life. At one time, he was mean S.O.B. if you get my drift. If the Bible didn't directly say that God is Love, I think I'd be torn like many others are.
How do you feel about spirituality? Religion [tainted] can cause a great deal of negative things in ones self, but spirituality seems so pure in applicaton. I sometimes wonder if Jesus ever encountered the eastern philosophies before his recorded life? His teachings seem to be in line with much of the Buddhist thought, imo.
~Junk~
i believe that if jesus was indeed real, he was a buddhist, and that he may have obtained nirvana.Quote:
Originally Posted by JunkYard
of course the church wouldnt include this in their bible because it would turn more people towards buddhism than christianity
pretty interesting...
i've hear LOVE IS THE ONLY REAL TRUTH,
everything else is just an illusion...
for the person who said things about god being energy:
PRETTY THOUGHT OUT, well done...
You have this all wrong. God IS love, but love is NOT god. The same though occured to me awhile back untill my pastor cleared it up.
No, surly there is more to God than just love, but Love is God's Spirit and essence. Such can be said of Christ as well, as he was the substance made manifest in the flesh. "Anointed one" "God with us" "Son of God" "Cristos" "Emanuel" "The chosen one" "One with God"
~Junk~
Yes the word Christ or Christo (meaning annointed one) was a title given to any Messiah, Priest, or King in the time annointed with the Holy Annointing Oil as described in Exodus 30:23 containing cannabis in olive oil (thc is soluble in oil). The word is modern bibles is calamus wich is a poison. The original Arhamaic and second language in wich it was written (Hebrew) both translate the word "kaneh bosm" (in Hebrew, forgot what it was in Arhamaic) as cannabis (this has been confirmed by the Hebrew University in Israel). Other Gnostic documents give further explaination on the oil.:rasta:Quote:
Originally Posted by JunkYard
Have you read much of the gnostic texts? They're online somewhere, but I forget where, lol! There are several of them, and I have only ventured into a couple, but they are quite fasinating.
~Junk~
I have actually. The recently discovered Nag Hamadi library contains some facsinating reads. There's a good source of gnostic texts on this site: freeanointing.org /Did you know the three wise men who attended Jesus birth (the magii) were Zoroasters (a gnostic sect) who drank haoma wich is believed to contain cannabis?:rasta:Quote:
Originally Posted by JunkYard
I didn't know that, Captain. I knew they were magi [Wise men] but had no idea about the cannabis. :)
Thanks for listing a site; the gnostics have always facinated me. I can't say I agree with all their views, but it is certainly an interesting topic.
~Junk~
God is love. You can't have love in your heart if you don't have his Spirit inside you. Just because people label "good works" love, doesn't make it love. Don't evil people perform acts of love?
"Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things."
According to these words, I'm not a loving person. Love is a person. Love describes a human being. A man. An invisible man. Yes, I believe in the invisible man. Jesus is the image of the invisible God. :pimp:
So i guess that love is a Christian concept, that originated in the middle east, and went west. While everyone in africa, the far east, and the western hemisphere up until about 700 years ago had never experienced love. I guess that atheists, bhuddists, hinuds, are all incapable of love.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pass That Shit
God is not "love". Yes he might symbolize love but he isn't actually love. When you love your fuckin' dog, that is not "god" working. When you don't go to church, it is easy to get this idea.....go to church one sunday, and you will realize that these people are actually talking about an 'invisible man in the sky'.
That's because [they] [Many times "We"] do not understand the depth of God's Love for his creation. I believe God is Spirit and essence, I believe that all we see, touch, feel, hear, tase, and generally experience are all part of of God. He is all in all, and is "The All". Everything that exists is part of God, but his essence and Spirit is Love, and from what I understand, nothing that was made was made w/o it.
Love,
ive been to church. i gave christianity a shot, but it didnt work out. everyone was happy and singing songs and praying. it was nice a first. then i realized, this all is based off either a lie, or an unproven theory. you can say god has told you through the church and the bible how to live and what to do, but you cant show me god and prove hes there. nobody can. you can show me something that you say represents god (love), but love is an idea. all you or anybody else has, are ideas, and some scriptures that arent proven real.Quote:
Originally Posted by ValkyrieAg
this brings me to my next question. how do we know the bible is a valid document? you have no proof that some people didnt just get stoned and write down a bunch of stuff. i know its not the word of god, but its the word of god through man, but have you talked to the man who suppposedly spoke to god and wrote down his word? no, you havent because he has been dead for a very long time. maybe the bible was originaly supposed to be an elaborate document to control the masses (morals and why were here etc..)
and was just beleived by enough people to keep it around all the way untill now.
these are some of the questions that i have. i would appreciate it very much if they were awnsered. im not trying to be an asshole or trying to insult all of you christians, but your story has many flaws. my story, as an athiest, only has one. i beleive that mine is more beleivable right now.
sorry if this post was hard to understand, but im trippin on generic vicodins right now