Active Duty Soldiers Call for An End to the Occupation of Iraq
OUT OF IRAQ NOW!!!
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http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/45646/
For first time since Vietnam, hundreds of active-duty military personnel have organized to oppose a war that they are fighting.
For the first time since Vietnam, an organized, robust movement of active-duty US military personnel has publicly surfaced to oppose a war in which they are serving. Those involved plan to petition Congress to withdraw American troops from Iraq.
After appearing only seven weeks ago on the Internet, the Appeal for Redress, brainchild of 29-year-old Navy seaman Jonathan Hutto, has already been signed by nearly 1,000 US soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen, including dozens of officers -- most of whom are on active duty. Not since 1969, when some 1,300 active-duty military personnel signed an open letter in the New York Times opposing the war in Vietnam, has there been such a dramatic barometer of rising military dissent.
Interviews with two dozen signers of the Appeal reveal a mix of motives for opposing the war: ideological, practical, strategic and moral. But all those interviewed agree that it is time to start withdrawing the troops. Coming from an all-volunteer military, the Appeal was called "unprecedented" by Eugene Fidell, president of the National Institute of Military Justice.
The Nation spoke with rank-and-file personnel as well as high-ranking officers -- some on the Iraqi front lines, others at domestic and offshore US military bases -- who have signed the Appeal. All of their names will be made available to Congress when the Appeal is presented in mid-January. Signers have been assured they are sending a communication to Congress protected under the Military Whistleblower Protection Act. The Pentagon is powerless to take official reprisals and has said that as long as active-duty personnel are not in uniform or on duty, they are free to express their views to Congress.
There are of course other, subtler risks involved. The military command exercises enormous power through individual reviews, promotions and assignments. But that hasn't kept a number of signers from going public with their dissent.
Navy Lieut. Cmdr. Mark Dearden of San Diego, for example, enlisted in 1997 and is still pondering the possibility of a lifetime career. "So this was a very difficult decision for me to come to. I don't take this decision lightly," he says. But after two "tough" deployments in Iraq, Dearden says signing the Appeal was not only the right thing to do but also gave him personal "closure."
"I'm expressing a right of people in the military to contact their elected representatives, and I have done nothing illegal or disrespectful," Dearden adds.
Other interviews with active-duty soldiers, sailors, Marines and airmen who have signed the Appeal for Redress reveal an array of motivations. Here are excerpts:
"Lisa" -- 20 years old, E-4, USAF, Stationed at Hickam Air Force Base, Hawaii:
I joined up two weeks after I turned 17 because I wanted to save American lives. I wanted to be a hero like any American child.
I supported the war when I joined because I thought it was justified. Only after my own research and the truth coming out did I learn how wrong I was, how -- for lack of a better word -- how brainwashed I was.
Now I know the war is illegal, unjustified and that our troops have no reason for being there.
When I saw an article about the Appeal in the Air Force Times I went online right away and signed it and have encouraged others to do the same.
"Sgt. Gary" -- 21 years old. US Army. Deployed with 20th Infantry Regiment, near Mosul, Iraq:
I joined up in 2001, still a junior in high school. I felt very patriotic at the end of my US History class. My idea of the Army was that you signed up, they gave you a rifle and you ran off into battle like in some 1950s war movie. The whole idea of boot camp never really entered my head.
I supported the war in the beginning. I bought everything Bush said about how Saddam had WMDs, how he was working with Al Qaeda, how he was a threat to America. Of course, this all turned out to be false.
This is my second tour, and as of a few days ago it's half-over. Before I deployed with my unit for the second time I already had feelings of not wanting to go. When in late September a buddy in my platoon died from a bullet in the head, I really took a long hard look at this war, this Administration, and the reasons why.
After months of research on the Internet, I came to the conclusion that this war was based on lies and deception. I started to break free of all the propaganda that the Bush Administration and the Army puts out on a daily basis.
So far in three years we have succeeded in toppling a dictator and replacing him with puppets. Outlawing the old government and its standing army and replacing them with an unreliable and poorly trained crew of paycheck collectors. The well is so poisoned by what we have done here that nothing can fix it.
"Lt. Smith" -- 24 years old, 1st Lieutenant, US Army. Deployed near Baghdad:
I cannot, from Iraq, attend an antiwar protest. Nor could I attend one in the States and represent myself as a soldier. What I can do is send a protest communication to my Congressional delegate outlining grievances I feel I have suffered. Appeal for Redress gives me that outlet.
I am encouraged by the November elections, but still wary. We rushed into the war on false assumptions, and now we might rush out just as falsely. What troops need now is a light at the end of the tunnel, not just for this deployment but for all deployments. Bringing everyone out this summer is too fast to be supported by our Army's infrastructure. We would hemorrhage lives if we do so. But so would we if we stay the course.
I am encouraged by politicians who call for a withdrawal by the conclusion of President Bush's term in office. That seems a realistic timetable for me.
Mark Mackoviak -- 24 years old. US Army. Recently returned from Iraq. Stationed at Fort Bragg, North Carolina:
I joined the Army on September 23, 2001. I had been out of school for a year when September 11 came around, and I was supportive of our action in Afghanistan. I wound up there a year later, and it was pretty eye-opening to see how people live.
I was also in Iraq for about a year, deployed near the International Airport, west of Baghdad. I was never that supportive of the invasion. I thought the media coverage of it was horrendous, really disgusting.
Just about everything I saw in Iraq reinforced my views that it was wrong. The point that really hit me was when the Asmara Mosque got blown up. I said, Wow, this is really a civil war.
I really enjoy being in the Army, enjoy the experience. I just happen to not support this war. I'm very open about that. My buddies either disagree with me or just pay no attention. But I get absolutely no hostility. None.
"Rebecca" -- 26 years old. 101st Airborne, US Army. Just returned from Iraq. Stationed at Fort Hood, Texas:
I joined in 2004. I was trying to go into the human rights field, but it was very competitive. I was in need of health insurance, and the Army seemed feasible. Now it looks like I will be stop-lossed until 2010.
I had strong feelings about the war, against it, but I'm the type of person that wants to fully understand both sides of the argument.
My experience in Iraq confirmed my views, but it also gave me a more multifaceted view of things. I did see some of the good things being done, but it seemed like a Band-Aid on a gushing wound. Mostly I saw the frivolity of the missions, the lack of direction, the absurdity of the mission. You go out in your Humvee, you drive around, and you wait to be blown up and get killed by an IED.
About 40 percent of my unit were stop-lossed. Their first mission was to take down Saddam and his regime, and they seemed to understand that and agree with the mission to take down a ruthless dictator. Now they can't seem to understand why they are there, caught in the cross hairs of a civil war.
I think it is safe to say that the majority of soldiers are wondering what this grand scheme is that we keep hearing about from those above us but that is never translating down to the ground level.
Some politicians are starting to see that not only a majority of Americans oppose to this war. Now they see this very powerful statement of soldiers who have already been on the front line and who are still in uniform and are also opposed. None of them have been where we have been, none of them have seen what we have seen. It's time they do.
Active Duty Soldiers Call for An End to the Occupation of Iraq
...if just one of those statements is true.....when the soldiers turn...the war is lost..
Active Duty Soldiers Call for An End to the Occupation of Iraq
I think they've been turning for a while now. How could you go through what they go through and like it? I remember when I was in the army,it wasn't anything like Iraq, but they whipped an extension on me, and I was a very unhappy camper. Some of these warriors are back on their third tour with their enlistment status having no termination date, in otherwords, they have to stay beyond their release date in a combat zone, how would you feel, I'd be pissed!!
Active Duty Soldiers Call for An End to the Occupation of Iraq
Soldiers 100% Support the president, I find it funny that a NAVY man was wanting out of Iraq....they sit on a boat out of harms way...sounds to me like this coward just joined the Navy to earn a paycheck, and when it came time to serve, he couldnt get out of it.
Active Duty Soldiers Call for An End to the Occupation of Iraq
spirit can't you stop your terrorist anti-american propoganda for the holidays...a cease fire in your jihad:jointsmile:
Active Duty Soldiers Call for An End to the Occupation of Iraq
Active Duty Soldiers Call for An End to the Occupation of Iraq
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Soldiers 100% Support the president,
That's not what the kid I work with, who just spent the last two years in Iraq told me. I asked him what he considered as the 'troop perspective'. He said most soldiers think the war is quote 'bullshit'.
Active Duty Soldiers Call for An End to the Occupation of Iraq
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Originally Posted by Myth1184
Soldiers 100% Support the president, I find it funny that a NAVY man was wanting out of Iraq....they sit on a boat out of harms way...sounds to me like this coward just joined the Navy to earn a paycheck, and when it came time to serve, he couldnt get out of it.
Such a troubling statement.
The American media is so powerful now that some citizen believes they know the will of all the American solders thousands of miles away.
And there are a hell of a lot of reasons to not support the president or the war, yet you believe them cowards.
Active Duty Soldiers Call for An End to the Occupation of Iraq
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The American media is so powerful now that some citizen believes they know the will of all the American solders thousands of miles away.
lol...it comes from watching Fox News. "They decide. You listen."
Active Duty Soldiers Call for An End to the Occupation of Iraq
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Originally Posted by the yeag
spirit can't you stop your terrorist anti-american propoganda for the holidays...a cease fire in your jihad:jointsmile:
You are free to believe in your fairy tales that communists ....I mean Muslim Jihadists want to kill you.
I will never stop posting these articles as long as I am around.
You will see the big picture on December 21st, 2012. Hope you enjoy it! :D
Active Duty Soldiers Call for An End to the Occupation of Iraq
is that when you turn 16 and emancipate yourself from your evil republican parents..
Active Duty Soldiers Call for An End to the Occupation of Iraq
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Originally Posted by Myth1184
Soldiers 100% Support the president, I find it funny that a NAVY man was wanting out of Iraq....they sit on a boat out of harms way...sounds to me like this coward just joined the Navy to earn a paycheck, and when it came time to serve, he couldnt get out of it.
Thats the biggest pile of bullshit I have heard all day! Only brainwashed soldiers who don't realize how they are controlled would support Hitler.....I mean this Reptile George W. Bush.
Who the hell would want to fight in a war?
Hey you are more than welcome to take a gun and go to Iraq or Lebanon to go hunt for those "freedom hating Muslim terrorists" that you feel are such a threat to you.
You're not fooling anyone Myth, and you sure as hell cannot fool me...if you know what I mean! I think you do! :jointsmile:
Active Duty Soldiers Call for An End to the Occupation of Iraq
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Originally Posted by the yeag
is that when you turn 16 and emancipate yourself from your evil republican parents..
How did you guess...and most of all...HOW THE HELL DID YOU GET THAT PICTURE OF ME???!!! :(
Someones playing a prank on me! :p
I must ask you too, are you racist against Muslims or something??
Active Duty Soldiers Call for An End to the Occupation of Iraq
The two soldiers in my family, my young cousins in Baghdad, don't support the president or the war. I mean, they support their command orders because that's what they have to do. But they wish they'd not been sent over there, and they want to come home because they believe we're only making the situation, both in Iraq and in the American-vs.-Muslim world, worse. Also, a long-time friend of ours who works for the U.S. State Department says the same thing. He says all the ranking officials in Iraq know these facts but that Rumsfeld and the D.C. crowd wouldn't listen. They're praying that Gates will.
Active Duty Soldiers Call for An End to the Occupation of Iraq
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Originally Posted by birdgirl73
The two soldiers in my family, my young cousins in Baghdad, don't support the president or the war. I mean, they support their command orders because that's what they have to do. But they wish they'd not been sent over there, and they want to come home because they believe we're only making the situation, both in Iraq and in the American-vs.-Muslim world, worse. Also, a long-time friend of ours who works for the U.S. State Department says the same thing. He says all the ranking officials in Iraq know these facts but that Rumsfeld and the D.C. crowd wouldn't listen. They're praying that Gates will.
It will still be "stay the course".
Active Duty Soldiers Call for An End to the Occupation of Iraq
Yeah, I'm afraid that'll be the case, GS. And I know it could be. But the insiders who've worked with him say he's no fool and no patsy. I'm trying to remain optimistic.
Active Duty Soldiers Call for An End to the Occupation of Iraq
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Originally Posted by birdgirl73
The two soldiers in my family, my young cousins in Baghdad, don't support the president or the war. I mean, they support their command orders because that's what they have to do. But they wish they'd not been sent over there, and they want to come home because they believe we're only making the situation, both in Iraq and in the American-vs.-Muslim world, worse. Also, a long-time friend of ours who works for the U.S. State Department says the same thing. He says all the ranking officials in Iraq know these facts but that Rumsfeld and the D.C. crowd wouldn't listen. They're praying that Gates will.
That's because Bush has brainwashed everyone in his administration into believing his bullshit. Most of America doesn't agree, many soldiers don't agree, it's time for an end to this. Bring the boys back home..
Active Duty Soldiers Call for An End to the Occupation of Iraq
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Originally Posted by Myth1184
Soldiers 100% Support the president, I find it funny that a NAVY man was wanting out of Iraq....they sit on a boat out of harms way...sounds to me like this coward just joined the Navy to earn a paycheck, and when it came time to serve, he couldnt get out of it.
Hmmm there are so many WRONG statements in this post I am not sure where to start.
NO 100 % of the soldiers DO NOT support the ass monkey in Chief.
Navy men do not just SIT on boats and they are far from cowards
A large percentage of the nurses and doctors on the ground in Iraq and Afganistan are NAVY.
There is already a large group of soldiers in Canada and another group in Ireland and still another group in Australian. I know because I have spoken with the people that help them get there. I just might need them in the future. My friend is directing a movie about them as well.
Who knows you may need one of these organizations one day too. I don't know how the government is going to expand our military without the draft.
Active Duty Soldiers Call for An End to the Occupation of Iraq
Hi Bgirl how are you tonight? I could not figure out how to reply to your PM so I sent you an email :)
Active Duty Soldiers Call for An End to the Occupation of Iraq
Hi, BC! I'm fine, thanks! I'll look forward to your email. I'm afraid our PM system is just a one-way system, and we normally use it for infractions. I also use it for nice notes, too, though.
I can't believe it's only three days until Christmas!
Active Duty Soldiers Call for An End to the Occupation of Iraq
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Originally Posted by harris7
Such a troubling statement.
The American media is so powerful now that some citizen believes they know the will of all the American solders thousands of miles away.
And there are a hell of a lot of reasons to not support the president or the war, yet you believe them cowards.
...THAT..is damn near...."Catch-22".....
