MY STORY (diluted test)

ok at the begining of the month i got this job offer and i took it, it included a piss test so i stoped smoking and took this 7 day detox pills. So i took the piss test on last friday which would make me clean for 15 days. I drank so much water, (you wouldnt believe how much i drank) ALOT, my sample was clear as water. So today im working and they call me in the office and said i have to go back to the clinic because my sample was diluted so i stopped at the store and bought a big water and went in and gave them another clear sample but i didnt drink as much as the first test not even close do you guys think it will be diluted again????? and also if your pee iss clear does that automatically mean its diluted???????????
has anyone ever got two diluted results??????

thanks alot

Your urine can be clear as bottled water and pass all validity testing or it can be day glow yellow and fail validity testing. If you read the dilution sticky you will see why you are getting dilute samples. You are making several mistakes.

i just found this site out yesterday otherwise i would have done things a little different

Well now you know for the future. Did you start smoking again after the first test?

no still clean todays 17 days
do you think i would be good with 17 days plus the 7 day detox pills
i took 3 home test from rite aid i think they were first check and i passed but i didnt know if i could trust those

When did you take the home tests? Those detox pills were pretty much a waste of money.

i took the home test on the 13th and 14th right before the first test

also i thought the labs just dip the tester in the urine how do they know if its diluted or not???

If it goes to a lab for extensive testing, they do more than just using instant test strips like in your home testing kit. These instant tyoe tests are popular with pobation officers and when they get a positive they will then send it out to a lab. Still they also make a instant strip that can test for validty just like the instant strip tests for the presence of drugs. If you went to someplace like Labcorp or Quest the sample is tested much more thoroughly (but not necessarily more sensitive or more accurate) than the stick test. It will go through validity testing to test pH, specific gravity, and possibly creatinine clearance. It will then go through an immunoassay test. Although not a dipstick, it uses the same technology as what makes the dipsticks work. Then if there is a positive presence of drug metabolites the sample is considered non-negative and confirmation is performed by GC/MS.

Those home tests are quite accurate, 95-98%. If you passed those you stand in good shape to pass unless you over diluted again.

i was thinking......once i found out i had to retest today i stopped at a kfc and pissed then i had some water and the next time i pissed was for the test its not like i was pissing hella times before. So it was clear but it still might pass

also it is labcorp

Dude, Lipton Citrus Green Tea, Water and Cranberry Juice.

Piss several times the day of your drug test and while pissing in the cup, try to catch the middle of your piss, let the start and finish go in the toilet.

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Originally Posted by chriscannabis

Dude, Lipton Citrus Green Tea, Water and Cranberry Juice.

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Lipton Green tea-worthless for urine tests
Water-not the preferred liquid
Cranberry juice-worthless for urine tests

Hah, well not for me man.

I smoked a week before my test, two 12 packs of that shit and water got me clean.

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Originally Posted by chriscannabis

Hah, well not for me man.

I smoked a week before my test, two 12 packs of that shit and water got me clean.

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It was the water that caused you to dilute the THC metabolites in your urine and not clean you out.:rolleyes: None of that cleans you out. It isn't like pressure washing your driveway. It is dilution, not cleaning you out.

The green tea is an antioxidant. They would have made me retake the test is it was just diluted.

I'm also pretty precise about how much I drink and when. It's not just toss back a bunch of green tea and water. I drink just enough water to dilute it it a little bit while the green tea cleans it out.

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Originally Posted by chriscannabis

They would have made me retake the test is it was just diluted.

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The point of the dilution method is not to dilute your urine to the point that it is nothing but water. There are different degrees of dilution. Rather the dilution method's goal is to lower the THC metabolite concentration to below 50 ng/ml in most cases without dropping the specific gravity or creatinine clearance to below accepted levels. That is the degree of dilution you are trying to acheive, not drinking gallons of water to turn your urine into 100% water. Your urine can be dilute in the terms that the THC concentration appears lower because of increases water in the urine without failing as a diluted sample. You need to learn the difference between dilute and diluted sample because there is a huge difference.

The green tea did nothing to "clean" you out. Green tea does not make your kindeys work better or wash THC metabolites out of your body or detoxify THC metabolites from your body or anything remotely close. You lowered your THC concentration enough by increasing water consumption. Plain and simple.

The validity testing has a range you must fall in and not one specific value.

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Originally Posted by PurpleJollyRancher

ok at the begining of the month i got this job offer and i took it, it included a piss test so i stoped smoking and took this 7 day detox pills. So i took the piss test on last friday which would make me clean for 15 days. I drank so much water, (you wouldnt believe how much i drank) ALOT, my sample was clear as water. So today im working and they call me in the office and said i have to go back to the clinic because my sample was diluted so i stopped at the store and bought a big water and went in and gave them another clear sample but i didnt drink as much as the first test not even close do you guys think it will be diluted again????? and also if your pee iss clear does that automatically mean its diluted???????????
has anyone ever got two diluted results??????

thanks alot

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Drink one big glass of pickle juice before your test bro, It will give your pee
color.

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Originally Posted by Davidj56

Drink one big glass of pickle juice before your test bro, It will give your pee
color.

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That is horrible advice unless you want a stomach ache and get sick and drink something nasty. Labs do not measure dilution with color. They measure specific gravity of the urine and sometimes creatinine clearance not if your urine is yellow or clear. Pickle juice will not even give your urine color anyway.

Read the dilution thread to see how to keep your specific gravity in the proper range as well as creatinine clearance.

FBR, Though what you say is quite true.

The tea I'm drinking have 72mg of antioxidants per240mL.

Which would lower the THC metobolite concentration. I thinkyou overestimate the amount of water I consume as well. I drink maybe 8 glasses in the whole week. The green tea is the major player here. I normally don't drink much water until I am within a week or two of a test.

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The tea I'm drinking have 72mg of antioxidants per240mL.

Which would lower the THC metobolite concentration.

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The metabolite concentration is lowered because the tea, being a liquid, is serving as a diluting agent to the concentration thats present in the bodys excretory system. The tea has no effect in removing THC metabolites from fat cells. There is NO product of any kind that removes THC from body fat. Only physical activity can do that. Time is also a major player, but bear in mind that the time factor is influenced by the degree of physical activity.

Drinking liquids of any sort days before the test does nothing. THC is stored away in your fat cells and slowly released into the bloodsteam, to make an eventual exit from the body via the excretory system. You are not pushing anything out when you ingest liquids days prior to your test, other than the first few voids when you eliminate most of the metabolites that have built up in the excretory system.
To put it more simply, when you are drinking fluids, you are aiming to get the mass of THC metabolites present in a given volume of urine under the cutoff level of the test you are taking. When you drink a large amount of fluids, your body is still releasing THC metabolites at a constant rate.

Now time for an analogy:
You are mixing Kool-Aid, and instead of using 2 quarts of water you use 20. Now go and measure the mass of Kool-Aid particles per glass of Kool-Aid (how watered down does it taste?). You can probably barely taste the Kool-Aid.

Kool-Aid mix = the THC metabolites
your taste buds = the EMIT screening reagent (drug test)

You cant taste it, you might as well say its not Kool-Aid.

The EMIT screening reagent doesnt react to its calibrated cutoff level, it simply says the sample contains no THC.

Same principle with your body and drug tests.

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Originally Posted by Burnt Toast

There is NO product of any kind that removes THC from body fat. Only physical activity can do that. Time is also a major player, but bear in mind that the time factor is influenced by the degree of physical activity.

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I dont know, before i would have agreed 100%. But i tried one of those 7 day cleansers after about 3 years of avg. daily smoking, and i was clean after 25 days abstained. Im 210 and 5'8 so, thick but not a fat ass. I spent over $100 and i am convinced it works. It makes you excrete burning hot fesces, and we should know that more thc metabolites are actually expelled in solid waste rather than urine. I believed in it so much i would buy it again, even though some people say "its a waste of money, blah blah blah" you gotta do what you feel you gotta do when u MUST pass the test. Of course you would have to feel its worth the money even if it is a waste, if not, then the jobs just not good enough then is it?

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I dont know, before i would have agreed 100%. But i tried one of those 7 day cleansers after about 3 years of avg. daily smoking, and i was clean after 25 days abstained. Im 210 and 5'8 so, thick but not a fat ass. I spent over $100 and i am convinced it works.

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So-called "7 day cleansers" and all other detox drinks work on the principle of dilution - because water is consumed with the product as instructed by the maker. As I stated before, all youre doing is merely diluting your THC concentration so the sample registers below the test cutoff limit. About the only effect those drinks have is providing color. Those overpriced magic drinks DO NOT remove or dissolve THC metabolites, as the makers lead you to believe. Its the water and vitamin content of the magic drink that does the whole trick. You could duplicate the same actions and save a ton of money by following the Dilution Guidelines posted on this forum

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It makes you excrete burning hot fesces, and we should know that more thc metabolites are actually expelled in solid waste rather than urine.

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And you should know that even when THC is being excreted via the stool, that will still not stop the kidneys from filtering THCA from the bloodstream and depositing into the bladder for the eventual exit.

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Originally Posted by BigNugs4U

It makes you excrete burning hot fesces, and we should know that more thc metabolites are actually expelled in solid waste rather than urine.

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You would have gotten the same effect for much cheaper with a bottle of Metamucil. Although I am not sure what the split is between urine elimination and fecal elimination, there is some research that shows soluble fiber can help a little with helping your body eliminate THC. This is done in two ways, binding to bile that often contains THC and helping to bind to the THC in feces and moving it out more quickly so that the THC cannot be reabsorbed by the body. Like I said though, you could save money with a bottle of Metamucil. Some of those detox drinks contain fiber or vegetable laxatives or both. Metamucil has soluble fiber which is quite effective in bind to bile and is also a gentle laxative so that you don't get FHS unless you are really backed up.

I once had a thread about soluble fiber and THC elimination and it was deleted because someone started flaming in it. I will have to re write it to give more specific details as to the role of soluble fiber and THC elimination.

Aerobic exercise is still the most effective method of helping your body eliminate THC metabolites faster but fiber can help a little.

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Originally Posted by chriscannabis

FBR, Though what you say is quite true.

The tea I'm drinking have 72mg of antioxidants per240mL.

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Chris, thanks for engaing in a mature discussion. So many people want to just say "well this works so screw you" or "I know this guy that did this and passed so it worked so screw you" or something to that effect but you seem willing to discuss this somewhat. Which Lipton tea is it exactly? Antioxidants are great for your body but I have never seen solid scientific studies showing that they help with THC elimination. The FDA really has strict guidelines when it comes to prescription and OTC drugs but are very lax on herbal supplements and their claims. I am wondering if Litpon tea has some trace amounts of antioxidant vitamins such as Vitamins E and C and then they can just slap that on their label. Doesit actually say what the antioxidants are?

Thanks

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Originally Posted by FakeBoobsRule

If you read the dilution sticky you will see why you are getting dilute samples. You are making several mistakes.

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there is no dilution sticky....?

Sorry dejay

I thought it was but it is a normal thread and was buried about 3 pages back. I bumped it and I will try to get a mod to make it a sticky. Here is a link too,

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthrea...84#post1154084

Merry Christmas

Honestly FBR, I have no idea. I will look it up over the weekend and give you a good report on it.

Apparently from what I cna gather, they just kinda clean your system.

Sort of like internal soap. It seems to work decently though, I came up clean on my test, and my piss wasn't clear, it was yellow tinged. Uusually diluted piss is just clear water right?

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Originally Posted by Burnt Toast

The metabolite concentration is lowered because the tea, being a liquid, is serving as a diluting agent to the concentration thats present in the bodys excretory system. The tea has no effect in removing THC metabolites from fat cells. There is NO product of any kind that removes THC from body fat. Only physical activity can do that. Time is also a major player, but bear in mind that the time factor is influenced by the degree of physical activity.

Drinking liquids of any sort days before the test does nothing. THC is stored away in your fat cells and slowly released into the bloodsteam, to make an eventual exit from the body via the excretory system. You are not pushing anything out when you ingest liquids days prior to your test, other than the first few voids when you eliminate most of the metabolites that have built up in the excretory system.
To put it more simply, when you are drinking fluids, you are aiming to get the mass of THC metabolites present in a given volume of urine under the cutoff level of the test you are taking. When you drink a large amount of fluids, your body is still releasing THC metabolites at a constant rate.

Now time for an analogy:
You are mixing Kool-Aid, and instead of using 2 quarts of water you use 20. Now go and measure the mass of Kool-Aid particles per glass of Kool-Aid (how watered down does it taste?). You can probably barely taste the Kool-Aid.

Kool-Aid mix = the THC metabolites
your taste buds = the EMIT screening reagent (drug test)

You cant taste it, you might as well say its not Kool-Aid.

The EMIT screening reagent doesnt react to its calibrated cutoff level, it simply says the sample contains no THC.

Same principle with your body and drug tests.

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wow man, great way to put it.

You're most likely right, but I want to see if the 72mg of antioxidants per 240ml of Lipton Citrus Green Tea, actually does anything rather than just ruin my koolaid so to speak.

I'm gunna try and run some tests and see if I can't reveal anything.


I'm not much of a science whiz(I'm working on it)

I haven't read this yet, so someone who knows circulatory and digestive systems extensively, tell me if thsi article is useful to my aims or not.

Much appreciated and Merry Christmas.

My stoned ass forgot the post the link.

Two hours later

Here ya go.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antioxidant

hey chriscann...

was it a premanent cleanser? if so, did u also have the burning hot waste problem?

Burning hot waste? That sounds painful, and my bathroom trips have been pretty much routine and painless while drinking them.

They aren't even really cleansers. I think the antioxidants just have a convenient side effect of helping to clean your system.