Hydro: Bubbler Style - a story in the making.

Hello,

I am starting this thread a bit early, but patience is the name of this game, so consider this a bit of a test. The actual hydro grow will not start for some time yet, but preparation has begun.

Notanovice - I am going to be looking to you for guidance if you do not mind. I know that hydro is your choice of poison, and you are the one that inspired me to try out hydro. Back on one of my first posts here. :cool:

Everyone is welcome to chime in and ask/answer any questions you like. This thread can be an open "how to" if so desired.

Here are some of the items that I have so far:

• CocoTek 5" Net Pot Liners
• 5.5" Heavy Duty Net Pots
• 5" Net Pot Covers
• Hydroton Clay Pebbles
• Grodan Rockwool Starter Cubes - 1.5" x 2" x 2"

This will be a learning experience. I'm hoping for the best.

Peace

Hello,

Here are some more pics.

I am excited to use this air pump, I think that it will do an awesome job. It is supposed to be able to run 16 waterfarm buckets. I am going to tee each of the nozzles once for a total of eight air tubes. I will be buying bubble wands at Wal-Mart sometime soon. I figure a total of eight wands in the bubble container will do some justice.

The container that I will be using is a 20 gallon rubbermaid container that I have made light proof.

Here is a shot of my waterproof, temperature compensated, pH pen, storage solution, and pH buffers.

Peace

Hello,

I have been contemplating on how many pots to use. I want to use as many as possible, but do not want to crowd too much. So I went with a total of five.

I think that this will be fine. This gives each plant (clone actually) 4 gallons of water.

I will be using Pure Blend Grow and Bloom on this grow. For the following run I think that I am going to try out General Hydroponics Flora series, Flora Shield, and their Diamond Nector.

Here is a link to the GH products. Link To Products

Has anyone used these nutrients? I know that they are highly acclaimed, but I would like some real-world-application-type knowledge.

Are they easy/hard to work with?

Peace

you`ve done your homework!
i got just a few questions.
on the lids of the res. are they white?
i know the net pot covers are, but i mean the lids that they sit in.
i see from the pic the bottom is blackish, i use the same type of res, black rubbermaid, no light penetration.
this is just a sugestion tho. i use a dropcloth type thing i get from home depot.
it`s white paperlike material on one side, and white plastic on the other. very useful for reflecting light up under plants. very cheap too, and easy to work with. one pkg can cover a number of res. of that size.
you should do very well with that set up, my only concern is, will the plants over grow their intended space? with pruning and some plant training, i think they should be ok. now i`m starting to babble. hahaha. i`m am excited as you. i feel like a proud father, like when his son hits his first homerun, or makes his first touchdown etc.etc.
you can ask for my assistance(i dont think you`ll need any)
any time. it will be my pleasure
again i say
GREAT JOB :D :D :D :D

Hello,

Thanks for the confidence booster. I am ready to take on the day, no problems now!

In the pic that is the top of the lid for the resivoir. I just set the net pots upside down on it.

I light proofed the tub with Krylon Plastic spray paint, about 5 coats. And then went over it with a cheap can of black spray paint that I had on hand. That is what is giving it that kind of shiny reflection.

The paper/plastic material is a good idea and will just help to ensure that there will be no light leaks from the top, alonw with acting as a reflective material. Thanks.

How many 5.5 inch pots would you suggest that I ran in this size of res?

The five in the pic are not cut in yet so I can still switch things around.

Is five going to be too crowded?

I know that they will grow close together, but they will be under a 600 watt HPS with a hortilux bulb. So that should help anyway with light penetration. At five plants that is 120 watts per plant.

The grow area is covered in wrinkle free mylar, and runs (temp wise) at about 78-83* right now. I can stick my hand on the light shield of the 600 watter, and keep it there. The light is being vented by a 6" inline duct blower, rated at 449 CFM, made by Vortex. The rest of the area has no active ventilation. I do have a good sized passive intake though, just incase I end up needing to add in a small exhaust fan.

Two strains (one per run) will be used in this bubbler. Ak-47 (from greenhouse seeds), and Trainwreck (from a SoCal dispensery, clone only).

Heres to the sound of baby bubbles.

Peace

i think the way you have them setting would be good
the stagger of the net pots like that should be enough room
you lucky dog, trainwreck clones
again i say, you lucky dog.
i`m just exstatic, smilin from ear to ear :D :D
good luck!


PEACE
and
GRASS

Hello,

I am super excited about the trainwreck, but I should not speak to loudly, they are not in my posession yet. All is well though.

I am anxious to get this going.

notanovice - What nutes do you use?

I have been busy, I am studying up on AK-47 over at overgrow. That place is just about imposible to decipher sometimes. I am also researching Trainwreck, there is a lot of hype around this strain. I know that it is suposed to be really good, but it is so rare for things to live up to the standards that they have been set to. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Talk to you later.

Peace

Hello,

Here is just a small update. I have the net pots in the bubbler now.

Items still to get:

1. Air pump tubing
2. Air tube tee's
3. Bubble wands
4. EC Meter (Waterproof)
5. GH Flora Series

Thats all that I can think of for now.

Peace

one step grow
one step bloom
and voodoo juice
all three are advanced nutrients products

Howdy notanovice and Student,

I really like this kind of set-up,because it seems to be good for a feller with not much space-and because it doesn't require heavy lifting. The way I've been growing,is to git 4-5 gallon pots ,filled with potting soil-which takes up alot of space,and since I like to carry the plants to the bathtub where I can water them good enough for the water to flow through,flushing out accumulated salts and to give em a thorough drenching-cuz I like for them to be virtually dry-before watering them. Obviously,once they've been thoroughly watered,they're pretty daggum heavy,for a feller with a bad back. BTW,when I say 'water'-I don't mean tap water from the shower head..I mean with my fert solution..lol. Don't freak out..lol.

It's also a plus,that most of the components,can be bought at WallyWorld(Wal-Mart)..for the rest..I can go to the big city or order on-line..I reckon.

I haven't grown hydro before-but I'd be willing to learn..as long as I can do it with organic ferts or at least some kind of fert that doesn't give it a chemical taste. Is that possible ?

Have a good one...Torog

Hi torog
I don't mean to butt in , hydro grown with organic ferts and flushed properly before harvesting have no chemical taste in them at all. hydro will produce bigger buds faster. all you'll have to move. after it is set up, is quarts of ferts and a hose. great for bad backs and the disabled. it is possible to get 4-6 harvests a year with hydro. If your growing by dirt , the change over is minimal. alot of people here to help out , anything i can do , just ask torog.
peace
heart

i forgot i thing for you . here's a site i get some nutes from
http://www.americanagritech.com
peace
heart

Hello,

notanovice - Thanks, I have also been looking at Advanced Nutrients. I have a few supliment samples that I am trying out to see if I like them. The samples are, Dr. Hornby's Big Bud, Bud Blood, and Carbo Load. Have you seen the advertisments for Dr. Hornby's Tarantula? If I end up going with the Advanced Nutes I will be trying some of this out.

Torog - If you are interested, you should put together a bubbler system and we could do a tandum grow. We will learn together, and hopefully harvest some beautiful buds.

heartsurgerysurviver - Thank you for the link. I also have some samples from this company, I have the Botanicare Power Series; Power Plant, Power Flower, and Power clone. I have used the Power Flower in past grows and would say that it certainly does its job.

[align=center]-Sometimes late at night, when the wind kicks up just right, you can hear the sound of bubbles, bubbles from every direction.-

-If you cant over-throw, then Over Grow!-[/align]

Peace

Hello,
Here is a bit of info on Dr. Hornby's Tarantula

[align=center]Tarantula[/align]

Advanced Nutrients is proud to announce Tarantula, a pioneering product that contains the highest concentration of beneficial microorganisms of any plant growth product we know of.

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Dr. Hornby believes in healthy plants and healthy grow mediums. He set out to restore nature's balance to the mediums that growers use. He spent three years peering into the world of microogranisms. Sometimes he found himself almost permanently squinting at the little microbes as they colonized root zones and created symbiotic relationships that greatly pleased plant roots.

During extensive field testing under the most rigorous conditions, Dr. Hornby found that his special Tarantula formula, which contains 57 different types of microorgansms and 1.4 billion "colony-forming units" per gram, fostered exceptional growth in vegetative and flowering phases. Root mass increased by the application of Tarantula, and was increased even more when Tarantula was used in conjunction with another revolutionary Advanced Nutrients product, Piranha. Indeed, one field test showed that growth and root mass increased 25% more when Piranha and Tarantula were used together, compared to when Piranha was used by itself.

Another benefit of Tarantula is that it fosters microbial action that releases "cytokinins" that aid in producing more extensive lateral branching, more budding sites, and buds with greater grith and weight.

The positive effects of Dr. Hornby's Tarantula and beneficial microogranisms cannot be overstated. The product creates a healthy root zone that gives plants greater ability to uptake nutrients and to be strong and stress-resistant, all the way down to the cellular level.

If you want to restore a natural balance to your garden that will increase yield, vigor, and flavor, use Dr. Hornby's Tarantula, backed by the Advanced Nutrients performance guarantee.

Here is info on Piranha.

[align=center]Piranha[/align]

Advanced Nutrients uses the best of nature and science. We work with eminent plant scientist Dr. Paul Hornby, whose dedication to plant health is unequalled.

Dr. Hornby spent years creating his series of powerful products that harness nature and science for your benefit. One of these products is Piranha Beneficial Fungi, which assists plants by improving their root zone. Piranha is also very useful as a foliar spray.

Piranha contains 26 types of beneficial fungi, including eight species of trichoderma and 18 species of ectomycorrhizal and endomycorrizhal fungi. Drawing on thousands of studies that detail the importance of mycorrhizal fungi, Dr. Hornby's further research found that such fungi exrete powerful chemicals that dissolve nutrients, absorb water, and promote soil porousity. Such actions greatly assist the development of root mass, nutrient absorption, and water absorption, via the symbiotic relationship between the plant, its roots, and the fungi.

In nature, the beneficial fungi found in Piranha contribute to healthy soil and plants that are able to resist drought, stress, and other problems that deter plant growth. Dr. Hornby's studies and field tests prove Piranha helps plants establish fruits and flowers faster, in greater abundance, and with increased yield, especially used in conjunction with Dr. Hornby's Voodoo Juice, which contains specialized beneficial bacteria, Piranha gives your plants a natural advantage not often found in modern growing situations, especially when growers are working indoors.

Try Piranha today. Your plants will thank you!

Peace

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Originally Posted by heartsurgerysurviver

Hi torog
I don't mean to butt in , hydro grown with organic ferts and flushed properly before harvesting have no chemical taste in them at all. hydro will produce bigger buds faster. all you'll have to move. after it is set up, is quarts of ferts and a hose. great for bad backs and the disabled. it is possible to get 4-6 harvests a year with hydro. If your growing by dirt , the change over is minimal. alot of people here to help out , anything i can do , just ask torog.
peace
heart

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Howdy HSS,

Thanx for your gracious reply,I will appreciate your help and you can jump in anytime and holler at me. I added the link you provided and quickly found a local store in my area to go shopping at,it's easy to find and near a mall that I'm familiar with..so I reckon I could make a day of it !

Have a good one...Torog :D

Howdy Student,

You stated:"Torog - If you are interested, you should put together a bubbler system and we could do a tandum grow. We will learn together, and hopefully harvest some beautiful buds."

Sounds like a plan ! But my budget is so tight,that I won't be able to git started till January,so you'll probably be ahead of me..that's okay-because I reckon that I'll be learning alot more from you..than you will be from me ! lol

I read the info you posted about the Pirahana formulation that you posted,and I see that it contains the mycorrizahl fungi,that is something I find very interesting and was wondering..does it work in a hydro situation..or does it need some type of soil structure to survive ?

Have a good one...Torog

Hi torog
glad i could help you out. pretty cool there's a place near you. Most of what you need for a hydro set up can be bought at wally world and home depot [ containers,trays. air pumps, water pumps], but it's fun to look at all the new hydro set ups even if they are expensive. LOL best to you and yours
peace
heart

Hello,

Torog - I won't be starting for some time either. It will be around the middle of December when my grow space is open enough for me to get the hydro set up. I have very limited space. So at that point I will just wait out the couple of weeks and start around the same time as you. No questions asked...we will kick ass!

Hey I do want to say that I have:

-five heavy duty 5.5" net pots
-five 5" net pot covers
-nine 1.5" x 2" x 2" rockwool cubes
-enough hydroton to fill the pots
-a used (but still good) liquid pH testing kit

That I could send your way if you would like. I don't mind helping out when I can. Just let me know. I am a regular donator (time, equipment, emotional) to a medical marijuana organization in the state that I live in. I know that you are not a licensed user (read it somewhere here on the forums), but that you do have chronic back problems.

Anyway just let me know if you are interested.

HSS is right on when he said that you can basicly get everything you need at Walmart and/or Home Depot.

If you are interested in the bubbler style (DWC - Deep Water Culture) the only other items you would need is a rubbermaid container, an air pump or two, tubing, and bubble wands. This is assuming that you have nutrients already.

Talk to you later.

Peace

Howdy Student,

That's a mighty gracious offer-thanx !

I have such a tight budget that saving money where I can,always helps. I mentored a young feller in indoor growing and gave him alot of my equipment because I couldn't grow at the time and wanted him to succeed. So,I have to start from scratch again and need to buy alot of things to git started. I'd be glad to pay the shipping charges..but like I said,I'll have to wait till January before I can afford it.

Have a good one...Torog :D

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Originally Posted by heartsurgerysurviver

Hi torog
glad i could help you out. pretty cool there's a place near you. Most of what you need for a hydro set up can be bought at wally world and home depot [ containers,trays. air pumps, water pumps], but it's fun to look at all the new hydro set ups even if they are expensive. LOL best to you and yours
peace
heart

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Howdy Heart,

Thanx for your help:)...there's a home depot between here and there,as well. Maybe 'll git lucky and win the lottery..lol..then I can really go shopping !

Have a good one...Torog :D

Woah..I just realized Heart,that I posted my reply to ya,the previous one-at exactly 4:20 ...is that a sign of good fortune and luck ? :eek:

Have a good one...Torog :D

Torog,

No worries, that will give me time to become a Cafe Member, so we can PM one another. I hate not being able to PM, or even e-mail, this is the only site I have ever been apart of that was like this. (Sorry for the rant, but I had to get it off of my chest).

Talk to you later.

Peace

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Originally Posted by The Student

Torog,

No worries, that will give me time to become a Cafe Member, so we can PM one another. I hate not being able to PM, or even e-mail, this is the only site I have ever been apart of that was like this. (Sorry for the rant, but I had to get it off of my chest).

Talk to you later.

Peace

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Howdy Student,

I look forward to you becoming a Cafe member as well,in the meantime..I reckon I ought to go and register at there forum ya got linked.

Have a good one...Torog :D

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Originally Posted by Torog

Howdy Student,

I look forward to you becoming a Cafe member as well,in the meantime..I reckon I ought to go and register at there forum ya got linked.

Have a good one...Torog :D

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Hello,

Yes please do. It has ony been up for a week so there isn't much activity going on yet. This gives everyone the chance to start from the ground up. Just PM me when you do join. I have the same screen name.

Peace

Student! how about a few pics of all the key parts of your setup in order or a overview look at the setup itself! would help me out alot,for example show in pics what kind of power is coming from your pump? does it provide lots of bubbles you know stuff like that,I want nitty details,everything so far just look's great...Thanks for your time...hook me up!

Hello,

bruiser - I will be purchasing the bubble wands and such tomorrow, I will set everything up and take some shots for you.

I will show grow space, ventilation, lighting, bubbler in action, etc.

Talk to you later.

Peace

Hello,

notanovice - I have been researching the Advanced Nutrients line up and must say, that I think they will be more beneficial to me and my set up then GH nutes.

Advanced really seems to have everything worked out. I am saving up so that I can follow the 2+ program as outlined using this Nutrient Calculator.

It is going to be a bit expensive, but I figure that I will save up, try it out, and learn from there what products I want to keep using and which I will get rid of.

Talk to you later.

Peace

Hello,

Well I did not get the bubble wands and such today like I was going to. So no pics of that.

Instead, I have pics of what I did get today! The TW...thats right....TrainWreck.

I am as excited as a little kid at Christmas.

Here are a some shots of the clones. They are small for now, but look nice and healthy.

Peace

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Originally Posted by The Student

Hello,

Well I did not get the bubble wands and such today like I was going to. So no pics of that.

Instead, I have pics of what I did get today! The TW...thats right....TrainWreck.

I am as excited as a little kid at Christmas.

Here are a some shots of the clones. They are small for now, but look nice and healthy.

Peace

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Howdy Student,

They do look good,yeeehhhaaawww !

Do you know what kind of genetics they come from,ie, ?x? .. ?

Have a good one...Torog :D

Hello,

I have an idea, and I welcome everyone who is interested to join in. Lets create a group bubbler grow. Any bubbler is welcome; new, old, big, small, store bought, home made, come one, come all.

I know that Torog and I are going to be starting in the Begining of January. I would like to invite as many others as are interested to start along with us. We will all feed off of one another, spreading positive vibes.

Just throw up a post if you are interested say that you want to join in. At this point there is still plenty of time to save up some cash to purchase all of the items needed (which aren't many).

We can do it! :D

Peace

Oh how I wish
I plan to get some Hydrofarm bubblers from insidesun.com, but I have to finish my first grow right now..
But Im sure by the time I get started, you should be through and on your second go.

Hope to hear from you with the results.

Count me in student!,I have about 6 mature plants right now in soil,also 4 plants waiting to be sexed! also in soil,plus I took 30 cuttings over the last month or so from the 6 mature ones! wow lol.....also 5 blueberry 6 ultra black cambodian,and 7 bag seed all 1 week old from seed!,so as you can see I like growing pot,but never tryed the bubbler! or hydroponics period,it seems easy enough! and if I join this bubbler group lol I am sure you guy's will help me out,count me in,but of course it's going to take another week or so before I get all the parts for the bubbler's....anyhow im in!

Hello,

Bruiser - Glad to have you aboard! We will all learn from one another.

It certainly sounds like you have a hand full. I can only imagine how cramped up your hands must get come trimming time. LOL. Thats alot of plants.

I'm sure you are, but I just want to say, please be carefull. I don't know where you live, but it would be a bad deal if I were to get cought with that many plants, in the country I live in.

Anyway, its good to have another member of the "Bubbler Squad" (or Soon-To-Be-Bubbler-Squad).

Talk to you later.

Peace

I live in Canada! I would probably get a slap on the wrist and a couple of months probation maybe not, perhaps just a 500 dollar fine,in some cases the courts have even returned the growing property back to the owner,it's not legal by any means,but you have to be a big grower before really get the boots laid to you!.......but thanks for the warning after all it's still ilegal here besides maybe it may just be my luck that the authoritys use me for the example and lay it on me heavy......

Hey....I wandered upon this thread and would love to take a part of it as well.....I have only grown with soil and really want to try a hydro grow. These bubblers sound fun to make so count me in!
But I have a question:
Can u start a hydro grow with seeds or only clones? :confused:
I would imagine if u germinated the seeds in rockwool it would be ok...but I'd like to know for sure. Give me u're thoughts.....thx in advance.

BudBabe

hey guys i am just fixing to harvest my first hydro grow bubbler style skunk plant
infact its my first grow in 20 years. i couldnt have done it without this website
i plan to try and regenerate my plant and have another go at it until i can get the balls to order some seeds i will be watching this thread to learn from you guys and if there is anything i can help you guys with let me know.

good luck everyone

there is one thing i thought might help i have a 3 gallon resv.
i added a couple of big air pumps 20-60 gallon . and the plant seemed to kick into turbo
it was doing fine without them but when i added x tra pmps it really took off
so i think that the more oxy you givem the better they do.
just a thought

good luck

Hello,

Bud Babe - You can do exactly as you have stated and start them in the rockwool. Thanks for joining up. Please tell a hydro friend:).

jimmy5150guitars - You are correct. The more oxygen in your nutrient solution the better. Please feel free to throw together another bubbler or whatnot and join in the fun. Jimmy, hit me up at this forum, PM me. I have the same screen name, The Student. I will be more than willing to send you over some quality genetics. I have a few nice strains that I can make a "grab bag" out of for you.

Take care everyone.

Happy Holidays

Peace

Hello,

Torog - My friend, the time is drawing near. Please PM me over at this site so that I can get an address to ship you your items. I will send you some nice seeds also if you would like.

Talk to you later.

Happy holidays to you and yours.

Peace

Howdy Student,

I went to the site and registered,I tried to pm ya,but my account is still too fresh I reckon. Let me know if I should go and post to ya in a forum there.

Have a good one...Torog :D