Where do conservative Christians go from here?
I was not sure if I should put this in politics or religion...Can it go in both?
Even though I do not agree with all of this article a lot of it makes sense. I would like to hear others views. *Attention:Psycho, Torog and Ozark I am really interested on your opinion here please.
If God is on the side of conservative Christians and conservative Christians are on the side of the Republican Party, shouldn't Republicans have done better in the recent election? It's difficult to keep a coalition together â?? Christian or not â?? if 12 percent of your base votes for Democrats.
But defeat offers conservative Christians a good opportunity to take stock. They should ask themselves whether their short list of "moral issues" and "family values" has any hope of being imposed on Washington, as culture continues to resist the approach many of them have taken. Could conservative Christians withstand another approach, one that reflects a more biblical strategy? click below to read the rest
**** I really like this statement from the article: Politics often dulls the senses to morality and "values." That's because of an unholy alliance between people of faith and politicians that often ends in compromise on the part of the faithful and the cynical harvesting of their votes with little offered in return.
*****this is good too: Conservative Christians are fond of quoting God: "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord" (Isaiah 55:8). Could it be that the way of politics is man's way and, thus, not God's way?
you can read the rest here: http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/thomas111606.php3
I am looking forward to your thoughts. :D
Cat
Where do conservative Christians go from here?
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Originally Posted by BlueCat
*Attention:Psycho, Torog and Ozark I am really interested on your opinion here please.
If God is on the side of conservative Christians and conservative Christians are on the side of the Republican Party, shouldn't Republicans have done better in the recent election? It's difficult to keep a coalition together â?? Christian or not â?? if 12 percent of your base votes for Democrats.
This is one of the reasons why I dropped out of the religious process........where did it state in the bible that God took sides? Where did it state that he had a political party?
My own belief is that most all politicians/ lawyers/ used car salesman have a place waiting for them in hell.:D
Have a good one!:jointsmile:
Where do conservative Christians go from here?
Howdy Blue Cat,
I did go to the link that ya provided and I will think about what Mr. Thomas said in his article and gather my own thoughts as well,so give me a day or so to reply..out of respect for you,I will not give a hasty reply at this time. I do think that you've brought up a worthy subject that deserves a good answer. :)
Have a good one !
Where do conservative Christians go from here?
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Originally Posted by BlueCat
I was not sure if I should put this in politics or religion...Can it go in both?
Even though I do not agree with all of this article a lot of it makes sense. I would like to hear others views. *Attention:Psycho, Torog and Ozark I am really interested on your opinion here please.
If God is on the side of conservative Christians and conservative Christians are on the side of the Republican Party, shouldn't Republicans have done better in the recent election? It's difficult to keep a coalition together â?? Christian or not â?? if 12 percent of your base votes for Democrats.
But defeat offers conservative Christians a good opportunity to take stock. They should ask themselves whether their short list of "moral issues" and "family values" has any hope of being imposed on Washington, as culture continues to resist the approach many of them have taken. Could conservative Christians withstand another approach, one that reflects a more biblical strategy? click below to read the rest
**** I really like this statement from the article: Politics often dulls the senses to morality and "values." That's because of an unholy alliance between people of faith and politicians that often ends in compromise on the part of the faithful and the cynical harvesting of their votes with little offered in return.
*****this is good too: Conservative Christians are fond of quoting God: "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord" (Isaiah 55:8). Could it be that the way of politics is man's way and, thus, not God's way?
you can read the rest here:
http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/thomas111606.php3
I am looking forward to your thoughts. :D
Cat
conservative christian rightwing republican straight white american males
gay bashin black fearin whore fightin tree killin regional leaders of sales
frat housin keg tappin shirt tuckin back slappin haters of hippies like me
tree huggin peace lovin pot smokin porn watchin lazy ass hippes like me
tree huggin love makin pro choice and gay weddin widespread diggin hippies like me
skin colored blinded conspiracy minded protesters of corporate greed
we who have nothin and most likey will till we all end up locked up in jails
by conservative christian rightwing republican straight white american males
conservative christian rightwing republican straight white american males
soul savin flag wavin rush lovin land pavin personal friends to the quayle
quite diligently working so hard to keep the free reigns of this democracy
from tree huggin peace lovin pot smokin porn watchin lazy ass hippies like me
dai*ma:stoned:
terrorism , abortion, and pot smokers aint what scares people today.
what scares people today are , republicans, that and , democrats.:D
Where do conservative Christians go from here?
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Originally Posted by BlueCat
If God is on the side of conservative Christians and conservative Christians are on the side of the Republican Party, shouldn't Republicans have done better in the recent election? It's difficult to keep a coalition together â?? Christian or not â?? if 12 percent of your base votes for Democrats.
Honestly BlueCat, I'm surpised at you. Don't you realize that God has been far too busy worrying about the Muslim hordes to be concerned with American politics;) It's either that or God was punishing the GOP for having a...a.....a .it's such a vile word I don't want to say it...but, here goes....a.....homosexual(whispered) in their ranks.
Where do conservative Christians go from here?
Don't you realize that God has been far too busy worrying about the Muslim hordes to be concerned with American politics It's either that or God was punishing the GOP for having a...a.....a .it's such a vile word I don't want to say it...but, here goes....a.....homosexual(whispered) in their ranks.
HAHAHAHA Fengzi did you see Lewis Black the other night on the Daily Show?
He was talking about the latest GOP BS on the Happy Feet movie....
Black said; Just how homophobic does a person have to be to have "Penguin Gaydar" hahahaha that is so funny, I love it.
****Daima is that from a song or did you write it? It's really good. I like it!
****Thank you Torog, always the gentleman. I look forward to your reply:)
My own belief is that most all politicians/ lawyers/ used car salesman have a place waiting for them in hell.
We always manage to find some common ground Psycho. :D
Where do conservative Christians go from here?
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Originally Posted by BlueCat
Don't you realize that God has been far too busy worrying about the Muslim hordes to be concerned with American politics It's either that or God was punishing the GOP for having a...a.....a .it's such a vile word I don't want to say it...but, here goes....a.....homosexual(whispered) in their ranks.
HAHAHAHA Fengzi did you see Lewis Black the other night on the Daily Show?
He was talking about the latest GOP BS on the Happy Feet movie....
Black said; Just how homophobic does a person have to be to have "Penguin Gaydar" hahahaha that is so funny, I love it.
****Daima is that from a song or did you write it? It's really good. I like it!
****Thank you Torog, always the gentleman. I look forward to your reply:)
My own belief is that most all politicians/ lawyers/ used car salesman have a place waiting for them in hell.
We always manage to find some common ground Psycho. :D
That song comes from a really good personal friend of mine, Todd Snider.
www.toddsnider.net
check him out, you'll dig him.
I have some great photos that i just might post of Todd and I at the last bluegrass festival here in San Francisco. www.hardlystrictlybluegrass.com
He was homeless here for a while, and then he just decided to get his shit together one day.
I have played with him, and i also made a living playing music.
Todd was just on the Jay Leno show recently, and David Letterman.
He's on tour, and i'm retired, but still teaching music here in San Francisco.
peace,
dai*ma:stoned:
Where do conservative Christians go from here?
thanks for sharing him daima :) I am listening to Somebodys coming right now! He is damn good looking too!
I went to a huge Bluegrass festival in Kerrville Texas once. In lasted 3 days and I had a blast I can't remember who all was there but I know it was a wild 3 days!
Where do conservative Christians go from here?
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Originally Posted by BlueCat
thanks for sharing him daima :) I am listening to Somebodys coming right now! He is damn good looking too!
I went to a huge Bluegrass festival in Kerrville Texas once. In lasted 3 days and I had a blast I can't remember who all was there but I know it was a wild 3 days!
Todd is a very clever man. His latest, "The Devil You Know" is just absolutely fantastic.
Other Todd cd's.....
East Nashville Skyline
songs from the daily planet
step right up
new connection
happy to be here, etc etc
dai*ma:stoned:
"there's an overweight man with an overweight woman on
the sofa watching tv
he's screamin his opinion at the television
she looks up from her food and agrees
they got two bumperstickers on their pickup truck
they keep the pickup parked outside
one sticker says "what would jesus do?"
the other bumpersticker says "the power of pride":jointsmile:
Where do conservative Christians go from here?
Hey daima, I went to a peace protest in NYC a couple years ago and heard the some of the best music. There was this one lady named Mary Prankster. She doesn't tour anymore but she was a kind of cult hero in NY. I thought I'd share one of her songs if you are offended by the F word then you might want to skip it...she has more songs on her myspace and she has a website.
Download Mercyfuck.mp3
then this is niles and edo you might like them....this is a really cool protest song :) I hope you enjoy them.:D
Download dissent.mp3
Where do conservative Christians go from here?
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueCat
I was not sure if I should put this in politics or religion...Can it go in both?
Even though I do not agree with all of this article a lot of it makes sense. I would like to hear others views. *Attention:Psycho, Torog and Ozark I am really interested on your opinion here please.
If God is on the side of conservative Christians and conservative Christians are on the side of the Republican Party, shouldn't Republicans have done better in the recent election? It's difficult to keep a coalition together â?? Christian or not â?? if 12 percent of your base votes for Democrats.
But defeat offers conservative Christians a good opportunity to take stock. They should ask themselves whether their short list of "moral issues" and "family values" has any hope of being imposed on Washington, as culture continues to resist the approach many of them have taken. Could conservative Christians withstand another approach, one that reflects a more biblical strategy? click below to read the rest
**** I really like this statement from the article: Politics often dulls the senses to morality and "values." That's because of an unholy alliance between people of faith and politicians that often ends in compromise on the part of the faithful and the cynical harvesting of their votes with little offered in return.
*****this is good too: Conservative Christians are fond of quoting God: "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord" (Isaiah 55:8). Could it be that the way of politics is man's way and, thus, not God's way?
you can read the rest here:
http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/thomas111606.php3
I am looking forward to your thoughts. :D
Cat
Howdy BlueCat,
I think that it's pretty obvious where conservative Christians go from here..they continue to fight the good fight..and oppose and reverse,the decay in morals,the daily murder of over 3000 un-born children,each and everyday and excise from their midst,those who claim to be Christians,but are in fact--evildoers.
Conservative Christians,will remain steadfast in their fight to protect,defend and preserve,family values and American ideals and traditions.
Have a good one ! :jointsmile:
Where do conservative Christians go from here?
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Originally Posted by Torog
Conservative Christians,will remain steadfast in their fight to protect,defend and preserve,family values and American ideals and traditions.
Who is to say one persons "family values" are anymore right than the next? Keep your religion out of politics or we will, in the end, be just like the Middle East ourselves.
