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Any one else in here a hunter? theres nothing i like better than grabbing the gun and heading for the hills. I didnt have much luck this buck season, i saw deer every day, but none that i wanted to shoot.
btw i smoked for the first time yesterday since february '06
I do and the flyers rock.
personally i have no respect for people who kill animals for sport
say what you want and think what you want but hunters are pussies
i love to hear stories about hunters getting shot or mauled
I never did like hunting. I think it's wrong because you are killing an animal for fun basically. Do you guys even eat the animals you catch? I mean I just don't see me being able to feel right..going into the forest and killing an animal just to "hunt". There is even a person at a church, a person that sits in the pulpit that "hunts" I really don't consider that a real Christan when you fucking hunt.
I'm not personally a hunter but I believe its a respectable thing if its done right. I hate trophy hunting, but if they harvest the meat and respect the animal than its fine. Ive studied ecology some and it is actually important to control wildlife populations. Huntings the best way to do it.
what about human population control
life is life
would it be ok to hunt caucasians or armenians
or even mexicans and blacks
whats the difference
I think the difference is that people are people and animals are animals. this can be tricky though because all people are animals but not all animals are people.Quote:
Originally Posted by friendowl
I'm not a big fan of hunting either but just becuase i think its stupid i won't say it is.
I'm sorry but that has to be the most stupid thing I ever seen you type here.Quote:
Originally Posted by orangeman
It's unchristian to hunt?? yeah ok whatever!
And no, No one I ever knew hunted for fun and sport, You must first kill animals before you eat them.
Get your head out of your ass and stay in the getto so you don't nmake a fool of yourself in the country.
friendowl~ hunters are pussies.......care to give your reasoning for that one ?
orangeman~ yes we eat the animals we kill. i know quite a few people from where i live that feed their families by hunting. think about it. you can go down to the grocery store and buy and animal that has been born and raised to be slaughtered, or you can go out in the woods and give the animal a fair chance to get away. don't knock what you don't understand mate!
I hunt hippies, drop the bastages off in the projects and give em a 5 minute head start.. starting to get bored of it though cause i keep finding them at the next corner talking to the guy selling mesc.. no sport in it what soever
Yeah I enjoy hunting. Hey Higher4Hockey, isn't it funny how at any mention of hunting people have to be assholes about it? I don't just mean here, but everywhere..
I mean... Different people do different things, no reason to be an ass because we like to hunt for food and you don't.
But yes, there's nothing better than grabbing that bow/rifle and going into the forest.
I don't hunt. But my cat does.:D
Deer jerky is the best food ever.
I love deer jerky that was made with hobanero peppers.
spqr ~ in my area man i dont encounter too much of the 'you hunt, you're a horrible person attitude'. hunting where im from is a way of life, but yes i do know what you mean, a lot of people go into scary asshole mode at the mention of hunting. im heading back out tommorow morning for small game (mainly grouse and squirrels) cant wait! one of these years i'll get into bow hunting, thats where the big bucks are i hear.
deer jerky defenitely rocks the casbah!
im off after squirrels, grouse, pheasants, and rabbits! wish me luck!
I've tried hunting, but I was never patient enough to realy like it, although I do love just going out and shooting. The bad thing about hunting is in the past people had over hunted many of the natural predators of some game animals and their populations still haven't recovered in many areas. So, without natural predators some game animals, mainly deer, being and exponintional population explosion, killing the ecosystem, so if we stopped hunting we would would fuck up the ecosystem more than we already have. A plus side is you always get the stupid hunters that get fucked over, I remeber hearing about one hunter who was attacked while taking a shit by a deer brunk fro eating fermenting berries off the ground.
"Some people are only alive because it's illegal to kill them" and also the difference is we are trying to help right something we fucked up and venison is pretty goodQuote:
Originally Posted by friendowl
I've been hunting with my uncle, when i was a kid. I killed a few rabbits... but meh, wasnt my kind of thing... im more into human hunting rofl.
I don't hunt but have nothing against it.
In fact, hunting is quite necessary, in some areas, since deer have been left without any natural predators (since we've killed all the wolves) and over run the area.
Hence, they wander out onto the roads and cause lots of deadly accidents every year.
Also, hunters are often strong enviromentalists and understand the consequences of upsetting the delicate ecosystem.
Game Wardens are the referees.
I've been hunting a few times, but not for a few years now. I loves it when I get to do it. Getting up early/ walking through the woods with that earliy morning mist all around you. Finally getting a target in your scope, killing it, finding it, gutting it. It's all good to me.
Where I'm from, you're not a man if you've never killed your own game, gutted it, and prepped it for eating.
I say take all of the hippies who don't eat KFC for whatever hippie reason, go out, stick them on an island with nothing but some chickens and a cow and let them live there for two months while they try and prep thier own food. They'll thank every god they know for the modern butcher and the food process we have.
My opinion, Hunting = Awesome.
im only speakingfrom what i have seen and did
i have met two hunters only in my life and they both
seemed weird.they took to much pleasure in the "kill"
if i lived in a country enviorment i would think different
here in la mountains theres no need to hunt
Well there are just some asshole hunters out there. Makes everyone look bad. Some people just kill shit to shoot something. That's why they make watermelons. take one to the range and go nuts.
Some folk are just carrying on a cultural ritual. Back home, its real common to go hunting after thanksgiving, stock up the freezer and eat on it for the rest of the season.
For me it's a bit of both. I love shooting things and for some reason killing animals (dont know why but I do). But I also love to feed my family and friends well fed so I get a lot out of it.
Mmmmm!!! Venison (I like Elk best, but deer is delicious)
My dear friend from Vermont is coming down with a cooler of venison for me this weekend I think...
He grows all the vegetables he eats organically, raises chickens for eggs and meat, raises hogs on whatever veggies don't pass the human food test, and only drinks raw milk straight from the cow's tit... well he puts it in the fridge first, lol...
but he also hunts turkey, deer, and rabbit for food, and manages the land he owns as a wildlife area with natural food that his quarry likes.
He saves the parts of the animals that people don't eat as dog feed for his pack of hounds.
This guy is VERY well educated and suffered from some pretty nasty and still not well explained medical problems that went away just weeks after switching to this ridiculously natural diet.
Healthiest person I've ever met, and honestly one of the most in touch with Nature.
Now, contrast him to my friend's lame husband who sells office furniture and has literally a basement den FULL of trophies... including pelts of animals that aren't typically food game...
I don't respect that sort of hunting at all.
I know this is a really touchy subject for some people but that's how I feel. When and if I ever move to a more rural area I'm pretty sure I'll take up rabbit and turkey hunting.
Venison sucks,,,give me beef...
True! With deer populations too high, all forest undergrowth is devoured and there is no natural buffer to keep sucking up excess nutrient runoff like a big sponge... controlled deer hunts are a necessity near me at the Quabbin reservoir, which supplies drinking water to Boston and the outlying areas....keeping the deer populations down allows for a healthy forest. And also without low shrubbery, other forest creatures have no cover or nesting areas and they become vulnerable to freezing and predation...guess what I studied in college, lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by FLORIDA MON
Good hunters must understand their environment to be successful.Quote:
Originally Posted by FLORIDA MON
Florida mon ~ well put, there are a LOT of hunters around here that do wonders for the enviroment.
Friend owl ~ there are assholes in everything, there are even asshole weed smokers, who give the rest of us a bad name. dont judge every hunter, just like you dont want people judging us all because of stupid stoners, by what a few assholes do.
I went out this morning and killed four squirrels, i got two on monday so i'll be firing up the crockpot from some outstanding squirrely stew tommorow !
oh yeah...and i was going to say..hockey is awesome...go cannuks and bertuzzi sucks :D
i go evry once and a while to vermont dear hunting. The last time i got this beautifull buck with a compound bow. I have a hunting rifle but that year my uncle let me shoot his hunting bow.......very very cool. no loud bang, quiet stalking of the pray, and a silent kill.
If you lived anywhere near the mid-west you would understand deer hunting is a NECESSITY. There are almost a million deer just in the state of Ohio. They cause hundreds of accidents EVERY DAY just in Ohio. I almost hit one on a weekly basis. Not to mention a deer herd can destroy an entire farm crop for the year in effect bankrupting someone. They are actually increasing the number of deer to be taken each year because it is so bad here in Ohio.
That being sad I hate deer hunting, putting urine all over your clothes, sitting in a tree stand not moving talking, just doesn't apeal to me. I like wing shooting as long as someone else is cleaning the bird, that is about as far as my hunting prowess goes.
I would much rather go down to southern ohio to my dad's buddys "farm" and shoot ak's and sk's and basically every cool gun you can think of(he has a class 3 weapons permit), ride dirt bikes, and drink and blaze. My dad's friend is like hunter s. thompson except instead of a writer he is a nurse at children's hosp.
My friend Ryan and I still go up to this public shooting range about a half hour north of me and do some skeet shooting about once a week. Sometimes my other buddy comes and brings his h&k .40, and his .300 h&k which are very fun to shoot.
I'd much rather just bust off rounds and shoot at old phone books and clay pigeons than animals, but I don't have a problem with it. I am an avid fisherman and keep fish that are good to eat all the time, especially when I lived in Florida, I was eating fish couple-three times a week.
hunters = pussies? You my friend are what we call an asshole, and If I wanted to hear one i'd fart. You should be able to buy human permits cause there are a lot of stupid people that need to be "trimmed" from the herd....
Where in VT do you go? I used to work for fish and game there up in the Northeast KingdomQuote:
Originally Posted by dark0ne
BTW I have the utmost respect for responsible bowhunters.. it takes such incredible skill to make a clean kill.
Dude just shut the fuck up. I didn't direct my rant at you so don't fuckin talk about me for having my own opinion. Now get your head out of your ass and stop making a fool out of your self by picking fights on the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by bavet
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Originally Posted by friendowl
Wow, you are so smug. I guess paying large corporations to do it for you on a much larger scale and more inhumane is better....no dirt on your hands that way. I won't be childish and say I don't respect you due to your position. Even if your a vegan ill respect your unnatural diet of malnutrition.
Actually if you would have read his thread, he said nothing about being a vegan or hating hunters that gather food. I also have issues with poachers and those who kill with no organized purpose. I think every sensable person would feel the same way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cyclonite
dont get your panties in a bunch
it would be ridiculous if hunted my own food
if i was on my own in the wild of course
but cmon dork you dont need food that bad do you
i can understand the whole 'spiritual " side of the hunt
but i doubt you respcet mother earth like you claim too
Why would he he have something against hunters that specifically gather berries as well?
If doesn't mean he is it means if.
"they took to much pleasure in the "kill""
I get something of an adrenaline rush, I'm sure that's pretty common. Not pleasure though.
The word I believe he should use is poacher not hunter, sport wasn't mentioned in the 2nd and 3rd lines.
Why does only hunting out of necessity mean anything, it doesn't matter if you need to or like to. As long as you just don't kill and not use its fine with me.
friendowl~ let me ask you this, what exactly do you have against hunting?
not a real Christan??? for fucking hunting a animal? think about this, O.K.??? why did god give us teeth to eat meat? why did he give us a stomach that allows us to digest meat? why is it that meat is not posin to our bodies?? why did god, put animals on the earth in the first place? why did he give us the power to kill them?Quote:
Originally Posted by orangeman
your stament is total BULL SHIT....
anyways... i havent been out hunting yet... im Native American, and my tribal traditions are you go out hunting for you first large game animal when you are 14, and the other tribe i belong to, its 16...so... hopefully this year i will attleast get to go out for the late deer season... but since my dad dosent really want anything to do with me, he wont take me out... and my uncles are all working... if i dont get to go out hunting this year, im going to be really bummed out...
In our traditon, you dont go out hunting for the biggest deer/elk you can find, you go out for the animal that will feed your family until the next time its needed... so since its just me and my mom (and my brothers and sisters occasionaly) we wont need a big deer this year... and you use every part of the animal possible... bones... hearts, livers... and anything else...
now... i completly dis agree with trophy hunting... thats a whole different story... if i hear some one crying around, because they didnt see a big enuf deer, so they didnt shoot anything, i get pissed off...
and another thing that i disagree with is when people sit in tree stands all day long with a 30-06 with a scope that can see the color of a cats eye, 12345678900987654321 yards away... its just a load of shit... i mean, sure, i dont plan on going out my first year, and using a bow to shoot a deer... i plan on using a rifle... most likely, ill use my grandpas .270 winchester (the last time i heard, the smallest rifle you can use for big game) and im sure as hell aint putting a scope on the damn thing, i grew up around hunters, and gun lovers... i was taught how to shoot a gun by my dad who was a fire arm instructer for the United States Marine Corps.... meaning he could shoot better then most people you will ever meet... and he taught other people how to shoot that good... and he taught me how to... and i know i can shoot as far as my eye can see... and be within centimeters of what i was aiming for..
anyways... im glad to see that there are other hunters around, who actually hunt for dinner and not just for the fuck of it... for our family... its a way of life.. not just a game...
let look at this from a deer spoint of view
lets just say cyclonite was chillin with his deer friends
just eating grass and having deer sex
not bugging no one and enjoying life
then comes mr hungry adrenaline junky
with his dorky orange hat and vest
and small penis and big gun
instead of admiring the anomals in theor habitat
or going to the market and buying meat he just
slaughters a life for his own insignificant reasons
if you live near a store you have no phyical need to hunt
your need is based on your feelings of pleasure that you obtain
thru the taking of a life ..any life
i hvae no physical need to hunt, true. but to me i'd rather go shoot it, gut it, butcher it, and cook it myself instead of paying someone else to do something i am perfectly capable of.
now lets take the story of cyclonite when its not hunting season. he's chillin with his deer friends having deer sex eating grass not buggin no one, then along comes mr. bear, or mr. coyote, or mr bobcat to run him down and start eating him while he's still alive!! at least i shoot and kill ol cyclonite before i eat him.
and my vest and hat are cool!!
maybe people who are against hunting... are just to pussy to go out into the woods... shoot an animal... gut it... and eat it... its takes a real man/woman to be able to shoot your own food...Quote:
Originally Posted by higher4hockey
and what my GF just said... if you cant shoot a deer you cant drink a beer....
or my modified version... if you cant shoot a bear, you cant drink a beer...
or if you cant shoot a deer, you must be a queer...(my girl friend again)
all i have to say, is i give you props, and any other hunter who can successfully hunt their own animal, clean it, pack it on their shoulders back to the truck, skin it, and eat it...(or for the older guys or little tykes... have your son, or dad pack it out)
and i guarantee that all true hunters, go to heaven, and see all the animals they ever shot, and their favorite rifle... and a replica of their favorite hunting grounds, and get to go out hunting for the past animals they have killed...
now the bad hunters... they go to hell... and the animals get to hunt the guy who shot them...
and when the last of the hunters die off... and the world is full of animals, fucking like rabbits... we will all sit in our favorite hunting grounds in heavan and laff our asses off because the deers rabbits squirels and all the other animals who everyone thinks is nice, and shouldnt be hunted... are killing humans... eating all of the under growth forest, and they are having mud slides, the waters are polutied with fucked up minerals that arent healthy for the human body in large amounts... we will just spark up a Jay, throw back our favorite drink, and laff...
and think about this... deer injoy the taste of marijuana plants... so... to any out door growers, think about this, you have a few acres of plants growing, a few days befor you go out to harvest your plants... you out to check on them, and you see a shit load of deer tracks all around the area were your plants are... and you get to your plants... and 90% of them are gone, and whats left of them, are un harvistable because they have been tromped all over... broken down,,, stomped on, shit on, pissed on and slept on by deer, all because you disagree with hunting...
also, another thing i thought up... cows, pigs, lambs... and any other thing that comes from old farmer john, is raised unnaturaly and most likely full of hormones...Quote:
Originally Posted by higher4hockey
and why dont you go ask a hunters wife or girl friend weather or not they have a little dick... i can garuntie you, my girl isnt going to say i have a small dick...