Another generation in demise.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061125/...us/teen_tweens


This kind of thing really pisses me off. People go around listening to songs that are so sexually explicit. When you arent controlling the airwaves how can you EXPECT the youth not to listen?

Sometimes i really wish I could have lived through the 50s and 60s and 70s. Some of the music back then was sexually explicit, but at the same time radio stations DID NOT ALLOW THE SONGS TO BE PLAYED. The BBC wouldnt allow I am the Walrus by The beatles to be played because it had the words *pornographic priestess, you let your knickers down*. This is far far far from what we have today. Why won't any radio station ever go back to that system? Because if they did, they wouldnt have very many songs left to play.

I FIRMLY believe in in more stricter radio stations and at least some control over the people doing this.

I am fifteen years old. I have watched this happen since I was little. I never really liked rap(im not generalizing rap, but we can all agree that is where most of the sexual explicitness is from)so I was never really hit with this. I remember in second grade two kids kissed and had been *going out* for a few weeks. When you are that old you don't even know what going out really means. I never once needed a cell phone. Know why? Because everywhere i went, the person had a phone. My parants knew where I was, and at the ages 8-12 what kind of parent wouldn't keep up with that? If they needed me they called me where I was. Now, I am fifteen and I go out with friends and I have a cell phone that I use when I go out. Parents binge to much on their kids and this should be stopped.

This is just my opinion, some of you may find it wrong, some of you may agree. I am not trying to start a flame war, I am not trying to disrespect any type of music you may think I have offended in any way. If you agree or disagree, please put why you think so. post such as *you are wrong, I suddenly hate you for thinking this way, and btw your a complete fuck tard* are not only incoherent, but pointless. Lets try and be civil :thumbsup:.

i had a boyfriend when i was 7 and we were "going out" i know what you mean, think about it know and when we were tweens we thought we knew everything, my sisters is a tween and i beat her down when she gets out of line because i cant have her ending up like the kids in the article

ok... im not trying to start a flame war with you with the falowing post... so if you are esaly affended... stop reading this post now....


ok.,.. first off... you complaining about music all talking about sex, and being alowed to be played on radio stations... well... just like you... every one has there own oppinions on what music they listen to... and if you realy payed attention to the lyrics of songs.... you would know that the real rap... like the good rapers, such as brotha lynch, DMX, Tu Pac, Biggie yea, sure they do rap about sex... but most of it is about there lifes, and how they made it to see 21 years old in a neabhor hood, that you are lucky to see 13...

but anyways.... im thinking the reason that you dont want radio stations to play songs about sex, is because your realy ugly... and your still a virgin... and youll be a 40 year old virgin...

second post of you being against rap, personally i think you just have a problem with rap and you're finding reasons (as solid or fragile as they may be) to have things against it, instead of just saying you hate it...

dont' get me wrong, i really don't like rap, with the exception of a few (very few) songs and eminem, i can't stand the shit... just why make these long posts instead of just saying "i hate rap"?

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second post of you being against rap, personally i think you just have a problem with rap and you're finding reasons (as solid or fragile as they may be) to have things against it, instead of just saying you hate it...

dont' get me wrong, i really don't like rap, with the exception of a few (very few) songs and eminem, i can't stand the shit... just why make these long posts instead of just saying "i hate rap"?

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i dont think he hates rap, i think his point was how its affecting the little kids

i would too, but this is his second "negative" post about rap, coincedence? maybe, but more logically atleast, it leads one to believe he just has a problem with it in general, personaly i find it annoying... it's changed a bit now, but it used to be "money bitches and guns, blah blah" over and over again same old shit, diffrent songs, even diffrent artists, but the SAME three things in every song... but like i said, it's not really limited to those things anymore, now there's everything in between talking about moms (love or hate) drugs, pimping, rims, cars, and so on. i still don't really like rap, but atleast it's not the same old shit anymore.. mostly atleast.

samwhore.... welcome back, havent seen you posting in a while

and yeah, i agree wayoftheleaf, for me its all about the music

if i totally misread this thread my bad, im semi drunk now (really random since i don't even like drinking).

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i would too, but this is his second "negative" post about rap, coincedence? maybe, but more logically atleast, it leads one to believe he just has a problem with it in general, personaly i find it annoying... it's changed a bit now, but it used to be "money bitches and guns, blah blah" over and over again same old shit, diffrent songs, even diffrent artists, but the SAME three things in every song... but like i said, it's not really limited to those things anymore, now there's everything in between talking about moms (love or hate) drugs, pimping, rims, cars, and so on. i still don't really like rap, but atleast it's not the same old shit anymore.. mostly atleast.

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i know but rap is rap, some people like it and some dont, if this generation likes money bitches and guns, people will keep rapping about money bitches and guns

I am fifteen years old. I have watched this happen since I was little. I never really liked rap(im not generalizing rap, but we can all agree that is where most of the sexual explicitness is from)so I was never really hit with this. I remember in second grade two kids kissed and had been *going out* for a few weeks.

The only sentence rap was mentioned in, like i said, im not generalizing it as just rap, some rap is good and some is bad i used rap as just at erm to describe a genre, not all of it.

Second of all, there was much more to that post than me complaining about rap.

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but anyways.... im thinking the reason that you dont want radio stations to play songs about sex, is because your realy ugly... and your still a virgin... and youll be a 40 year old virgin...
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I am sorry but what did I say?

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This is just my opinion, some of you may find it wrong, some of you may agree. I am not trying to start a flame war, I am not trying to disrespect any type of music you may think I have offended in any way. If you agree or disagree, please put why you think so. post such as *you are wrong, I suddenly hate you for thinking this way, and btw your a complete fuck tard* are not only incoherent, but pointless. Lets try and be civil .

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dont' get me wrong, i really don't like rap, with the exception of a few (very few) songs and eminem, i can't stand the shit... just why make these long posts instead of just saying "i hate rap"?

I dont have a personal vendetta against rap. Just sexually explicit music in general. And secondly, andone who made a post like that would be flamed and it would have no point.

HAHA.

Um, little dude, have you not heard ANYTHING about the Federal Communications Commission (FCC)??

They're presence on the airwaves are a little too overwhelming, contrary to your ill-informed belief that no one is controlling radio.

Remember anything about Howard Stern battling the FCC before he switched to Sirus radio? That was HUGE in the news, too. His talk show had always been pretty controversial, and as a bunch of newer FCC rules came into play, he was fined for some pretty petty shit while other media talk-show hosts said the same thing and got away with it. He got so pissed off he finally made the smart move and went to Sirus, where truly ANYTHING is allowed.

I'll agree with you that pop-music as a whole generally sucks now-a-days, but it's not too offensive. Radio stations that play music with explicit lyrics edit them so they pass FCC standards. If you're offended by things you hear on KISS FM, you might be setting yourself up for disappointment, because the rest of the world is actually far more offensive beyond the media. Welcome to the 21st century =)

So really, lol, you might want to be complaining about have TOO MUCH of a biased censorship in the media, not to mention do your homework before tossing out a barn-burner of a topic. ~

For one, I don't think howard stern should be allowed near any media device.

And the FCC is a joke. Simple as that. They are completley biased. I agree with you. If they had any sense they would be taking care of this problem. And more flaming on ME. I left a disclaimer and everything. God cant we be civil?

i really dont think this post was about him not liking rap....it is not just rap though..it is in pop (my humps), r and b (have you ever listened to tweet), and so on and so forth..i think we tend to associate rap with it for the simple fact that it gets the most airplay..i think it is also just the way things are now..for example, nelly furtado sings about sex and being promiscuious, and she is a single mom..people find this accpetable..this is what our kids are looking up to and this is what they are learning...all these little kids wearing makeup and singing about sex at 10 and 12, not being kids cause they are trying so hard to be grown, and parents think they are "so cute".....again ladies and gentlemen..these are our future leaders..makes me sleep better at night :thumbsup:

I refuse to get a cellphone. My parents are offering to get me one every chance they get.

I don't want one.

My cell phone I have put up in my closet that I only take out when I am leaving to a place where I might need to be reached.

I see this kinda thing happening too....the way the "new generation" is acting. AND ITS PISSING ME OFF. The way these kids take everything a musician or actor says as if it was a message from god. Its hard to explain..but its annoying as hell. Like how all these little girls dress and act like whores and how the guys just act like total assholes.....

I am opposed to artistic censorship.

The parents need to control their little hell spawn.

Kids with guidance will turn out fine.

Just my opinion.

Howard Stern should be allowed to have a microphone and say whatever he wants, where ever he wants. However, America and its misleading slogan "Land of the Free" don't allow him to do so.

Haha, please, not everything said in a negative manner is "flaming." I meant no harm in my post, as it was a genuine response. Just tryin' to get all the facts out there, mainly since you started off the topic by saying "When you arent controlling the airwaves how can you EXPECT the youth not to listen?"

Trust me, you'll know when I set fire to things. ~

wow...you guys posted a bunch while i was working on that..i am not even going to comment on the fcc......i am not touching that one...

i am going to say, some of you guys are really coming across like you are picking on this kid..he is giving his opinion, and you guys are basically acting like he is a moron..it is not what you say, it is how you say it, and i really dont want to have to close this thread cause i think it is a good issue...lets just not make it personal and be respectful....

lets also remember he stated he is 15 i think, and he is trying the best he can to express himself..it isnt like he is 30 or something..just the fact he is that age and actually has an opinion, reads news, etc, is pretty awesome in itself...


princess

Please, America is never going to be free. Don't even entertain that notion.

That is just it, most parents today either CAN'T or WON'T do this. They can't because the government INHIBITS them while they DON'T do a damn thing to things that could be harming the minds of the youth. Don't blame the parents. The government intrudes on their every action. If you ask me, a child that deserves it should be beat. I didn't get beat enough when I was young or I would be turning out much better than this.

okay heres my .02 on this whole thing.......

is todays music cheap and abunch of degrading bullshit??? yes

but for you to say "it needs more control" is bullshit as well, thats like asking for dictitorship and asking to be enslaved

not to mention that it is also a freedom of speech issue also

am i a prolatarian and a freedom fighter (revolutionary)???? YES

and i dont agree with this fucking trash called "hip-hop" that is in the mainstream media but we DO NOT need anymore censorship than we have now

people just need to wake up and turn their radios off and start listening to people like dead prez, KRS-1 ,"the old" tupac shakur before 91', pink floyd, the beatles,and bands like the cars, scorpions and stuff like that

but all that mainstream crap is all pushed by the government so to say they need to control it more is unintelligent

FCC is the reason why the good underground rap cant get radio play!!!!

hows that,
Ronjohn

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wow...you guys posted a bunch while i was working on that..i am not even going to comment on the fcc......i am not touching that one...

i am going to say, some of you guys are really coming across like you are picking on this kid..he is giving his opinion, and you guys are basically acting like he is a moron..it is not what you say, it is how you say it, and i really dont want to have to close this thread cause i think it is a good issue...lets just not make it personal and be respectful....

lets also remember he stated he is 15 i think, and he is trying the best he can to express himself..it isnt like he is 30 or something..just the fact he is that age and actually has an opinion, reads news, etc, is pretty awesome in itself...


princess

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if that's how it came across then i'm sorry, i didn't intend for it to come out that way.... and yeah you're right about one thing, sexually explicit lyrics and rap just seem to go hand in hand... i read the whole thing, i just assumed he was targeting rap...

another point i'd like to make, it isn't all about the lyrics, it's the image of w/e singer/artist gives off plus their lyrics... i mean there weren't too many 13-15 year olds dressing in clothing that would make a stripper or hooker blush, before people like brittney spears....

plant.........i didnt see that when i posted..i, for one, am glad you arent setting things on fire...heh

dont you guys think it kind of all boils down to the government and how they have affected parenting? i mean, the government has made everything so expensive and gotten us into so much debt, and in turn, the parents are working harder than ever to try to provide the basics, and cant actually parent anymore..tv's and internet watch the kids today....it is....sad

ok..i promise to get out of this post for a bit now....lol

princess

How about this, make a section of serios radio that can only be purchased by an adult or adolesent such as a card that you slide through, or an input code. This would make it so the younger children couldn't listen to it and would give parents some control they need.

Another thing, my bus driver in my old town played sexually explicit music on the radio WITH 1ST GRADERS. It wasn't just her, nearly every bus I have road on in three different towns has done this. 1ST GRADERS. our kids are not even safe ON THE BUSES. from music such as this.

Death to the FCC =) ~

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Originally Posted by wayoftheleaf

Please, America is never going to be free. Don't even entertain that notion.

That is just it, most parents today either CAN'T or WON'T do this. They can't because the government INHIBITS them while they DON'T do a damn thing to things that could be harming the minds of the youth. Don't blame the parents. The government intrudes on their every action. If you ask me, a child that deserves it should be beat. I didn't get beat enough when I was young or I would be turning out much better than this.

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sounds like a little white version of huey newton here!!!!

i am really taking a liking to you there little one, but too totally get a good sense of who you are

we need to have a debate in politics, a good debate

then we can lick our wounds and make up after

later:thumbsup:
Ronjohn

No princess stay long as you want lol its all good.

And plant, the first half of your most recent post and how you turn around and say you come in piece is what I mean.

Politics? don't you mean that big joke that the government has? The lines between political parties and left wing and right wing have become so obsurred I consider myself a democratic republican. And a liberal conservative.

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plant.........i didnt see that when i posted..i, for one, am glad you arent setting things on fire...heh

dont you guys think it kind of all boils down to the government and how they have affected parenting? i mean, the government has made everything so expensive and gotten us into so much debt, and in turn, the parents are working harder than ever to try to provide the basics, and cant actually parent anymore..tv's and internet watch the kids today....it is....sad

ok..i promise to get out of this post for a bit now....lol

princess

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YES YES YES YES YES

ive been looking for someone to make a post like this for a while!!!!!

you are truly the princess you claim to be

the gov. is wrong
"now sing it with me kids"

i think the FCC needs to let all the good underground bands free and give them all radio play and ban these "my chain hang low" bastards from exitance

my .02

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Originally Posted by wayoftheleaf

How about this, make a section of serios radio that can only be purchased by an adult or adolesent such as a card that you slide through, or an input code. This would make it so the younger children couldn't listen to it and would give parents some control they need.

Another thing, my bus driver in my old town played sexually explicit music on the radio WITH 1ST GRADERS. It wasn't just her, nearly every bus I have road on in three different towns has done this. 1ST GRADERS. our kids are not even safe ON THE BUSES. from music such as this.

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still wouldn't work, face it there's no way possible to keep 'negative lyrics' from kids, they can download the shit themselves onto their computer, they can get friends to do it, ipods and mp3 players opens doors as well.. and the whole card thing wouldn't work, they'd either just get an older friend to get it for them or convince their parents to do so... sure it might make less of the kids able to get their hands on it, but you can bet there would still be massive ammounts that could get their hands on it one way or another...

the only real solution to the problem is parenting, period. if the parents don't do their job, well.. no one else is going to do it for them.

Once again I say, the government makes it so hard on parents in this day and age to parent well. If i say anymore, ill be quoting princess's post

"So the FCC won't let me be
Or let me be me so let me see
They tried to shut me down on MTV
But it feels so empty without me!"

A few lines from an Eminem song felt appropriate. =)

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How about this, make a section of serios radio that can only be purchased by an adult or adolesent such as a card that you slide through, or an input code. This would make it so the younger children couldn't listen to it and would give parents some control they need.

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NONONNONONONN NO NON ONO NO NO!!!!

THATS LIKE ME SAYING.....

MR BUSH!!! GIVE ME THE CHIP INPLANT!!!!
AND CONTROL MY LIFE

how bout this, the government lets parents have rights again to punish their kids like they should, the parents need to learn alittle parenting and we need to just quit listening to this unintelligent shit on the radio

get a ipod/mp3 player and load it up with some good music and play the hell out of it

rons death list....
1. clear channel
2. FCC
3.mr. bush
4. lil' webbie (i just dont like them)

music sucks..... thats why we bootleg it
www.limewire.com

It doesnt matter if the FCC tries to do anything if they don't go through with it.

and ronjohn, If the government did what was in your post I would be happy beyond belief.

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and ronjohn, If the government did what was in your post I would be happy beyond belief.

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ill smoke a j to that

here here, ill smoke a bowl to it

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Death to the FCC =) ~

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word up

Hey i think i might download aim. I am more of a msn kind of guy though.

Hey wayofleaf, haha, for that rep thing, I meant to put "for me being a dick." Now that I see that, lol, I had to say something. You weren't the dick man.

But I dunnooo now that I see that bad post for me. LOL, jus playin'. ~

Oh, shit. I am sorry man. Ill send you a positive rep for that...I thought you were being a dick lol. Im sorry about that.

Well I was going to change it after I realized it, but I guess you can't. Cheers. ~