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As you all know this is our first grow and we feel is going great and we would like to post pic's from the beginning to now to get your all thoughts and any advice . The plants are now about three weeks old and got the first feeding tuesday and we changed the light from m/h to h.p.s. to speed things up. ENJOY PIC'S////...When do you all think we need to change to veg to flower???
1st pic is from 11/12
2nd pic is from 11/15
3rd pic is from 11/18
4th & 5th pic is from 11/24
Looks like they're coming along ok to me. By the time you can tell the sex, they may be hard to separate out because the root systems are going to be tangled a bit I'm sure.
I'd have kept with the MH because it's more blue spectrum light which is what you want for vegetating plants. You may find them stretching under the HPS.
Note: I'm new to hydro, you're a bit farther along than I am, so take with a grain of salt :)
Are those clones or seedlings?
they was started out as seeds ,,, why do u ask??? do they look okay????
our first grow so any advice would be great....:)
Jamie
they look fine, with seedlings alot of the time if you see some abnormal looking plants, its not to worry, sometimes the worst looking seedlings make the best plants weeks later! just be patient and keep up the good work
Not paranoid are you? For seedlings they look fine--I'm assuming that 3 weeks from germination, not 3 weeks straight growing since put in there right?
3 weeks from birth---good 3 weeks growing in hydro (maybe another week as a seedling somewhere, then they should be bigger.
I see from your dated pics (nice job there!)a difference of about 12 days. You say you just started feeding them today? What have you been giving them, just plain water or something else? Also are you guys checking the ph of your solution?
If you people keep feeding seedlings you are going to burn them...peace
no we did not feed them as seedlings at all, took your advice from earlier post (latewood) at waitied and feel it was right to do. They r three weeks old from birth in last picture and still doing good today and growing fast. We have them under a 400 watt m/h for now and will flower them under 400 watt h.p.s..We fed them the g.h. three part feeding program and seen the difference in days of health of plants.
We hope to in another couple of weeks to force to flower and take clones and start up right with all females for next grow. We r also looking to get two 600 watt lights for next grow to add to program. We check ph everyday and adjust as needed.
THE BIG QUESTION??????????????????????
How much should we expect to yield from a plant like this, we hope to be able to yield a pound from total of 4 plants so we can get a pound per tub as we have four plant in each tub???? Is this possible??
Jamie & Stacie.
p.s. not too bad for two crazy chicks so far?????
Crazy or not you guys definitely have done a super job...lots of study and hard work. Keep it up!!
Your doing fine. You need to take 2 clones from each and label them before changing to 12/12. You have a good plan. take 2 cuttings from each and root them. By the time they root...sex should've shown on plants in flower. Keep the fem's and throw out the males. Veg the fems once they have 4 nodes for 2 weeks then flower. Make sense...good!:smokin: later.peace latewoodQuote:
Originally Posted by wildchick
make sure you wait another week or so, befor cutting...do you know how to take cuttings?
LATEWOOD ????
Yes we have been reading alot about cloning lately and have gotten the tools and goodies to make a cloning tub we seen linked here somewhere and got a pump from a old outside garden pond and went to homedepot and got all the pvc pipe and now just trying to find the spray nozzles if anyone can tell us where we can get some and link us to it ,, it would be great.
We still have alot of reading to do on cloning , but if you can give us a LINK to your best advice "latewood" it would maybe help us in this matter. AND man these plants has really taken off in last couple of days CAN'T WAIT ???
Jamie & Stacie............ just two crazy chicks with no date and nothing to do.................but find ur own fun and grow.............
p.s. any link to "SPRAY NOZZLES"
Link to tub we r making for cloning http://www.planetganja.com/highsocie...ad.php?t=29891
Keep lights on 24/7 use liquid karma for ferts u can use it for the entire grow cycle no need to switch ferts when u flower, its the best stuff for your hydroponics system, i have the same setup as you i have attached some pics so u can see what u have to look forward to.
You can get a good deal of whatever you could possibly need at bghydro.com.
Check the FAQ section for the thread by Zandor on cloning.
HOW about a POLL ??????????????
We are in the third week or so of Veg. state and have heard everything from 24-7 light, 16-8 light to many others,,, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS
24-7 ---- 16-8 ------- OTHER???
Jamie & Stacie
I'm using 18 on, 6 off for 2 reasons.
1) in nature there is some darkness.
2) it saves me a little wee bit of electricity.
18 - 6 will definitely keep them in vegetative state until you are ready for 12-12.
Your plants are about one set of leaves older than mine. I'm only growing 2 though.
UPDATE ON GROW
Seems to being going good as they r growing strong,, my only question is look at the plants and let us know where to take clones from or do they need more veg. time??
Picutres was takened on 11/27/06
Any advice if you all see anything let us know ?????
Here's another update on our Plants, they r now close to 1 1/2 months old or so and we decided to force flowering to see sex and get it rolling on our first grow to see where it takes us. MAN this has been fun , alot of work , but fun.. hopefully with good results. So today we fed them for blooming needs and switched light to H.P.S. 400 watts. and will switch to 12 on and 12 off today.
Pictures takened today. 12-02-06
Wow those are looking great! Its been awhile since ive seen your grow they are coming along nicely, I know your excited :) Keep it up..
They're growing tall fast, overall fast it seems to me :)
I took a few pics of my plants which are actually about the same age as yours, but stunted when they were tiny because I put them in the system before they were really ready I think. Plus before I had my meter, I'd no idea my ph was super high. (See how the first serated leaves are whacked?)
Theres nothing to really scale them by, but the tub is 10 gallon, and the width of the fattest "fingers" are about 2 inches.
I'm only using old flouro tubes right now, keeping the light literally about 2 millimeters from the leaves. I think thats why they're keeping such tight node spacing and good early branch growth.
ps: my camera is ancient and I'm no photog. I had to photoshop them just to make them look that "good" lmao
Zandor has an aero cloning thread in the growfaqs, and I think it explains how-to: cuttings, also. I have 3-4 different cloning experiments. bubble cloning, aero cloning, and straight into hydroton/bubbler. I will look for them. good idea. But I have to tell you, I have gone largely back to rockwool...I found it soooo easy. That is a personal preference. I found it more work, not less work after I started cloning with a machine; Especially since I wasn't going to root more than 4-8 cuttings each time.Quote:
Originally Posted by wildchick
Another note on pumps in rez...Heat. the pump runs continuously...At least on mine and Zandor's set-ups, and that creates heat in the rez. If you build a tub aero cloner. You need a big rez with "lots" of water to dissipate the heat..Got me?
More water=cooler rez for longer period of time. Good ideas all around. I will get back to you when I can find my threads.
Here is pictures of our babies as of today 12/08/06 they have been under
12 /12 light for about 6 days nows and noticed alot of growth in them, still can't tell sex of them?? how long does it take to tell sex of them under 12 / 12 ????? Any advice at this point, hopefully they show sex and blooming soon??
Jamie & Stacie
The above post should have read 12/ 07 / 06
Any advice is sweetQuote:
Originally Posted by wildchick
It looks to me like you have your light too far away from your plants...What size MH are you using?
Don't ever put your vegging plants under 24/0...think nature. where on earth that is condusive to growing plants would there be "sun" 24 hours a day. the longest "Sun" day of the year I believe is just around 15 hrs...
plantsa need there rest, In order to have good photsynthesis.
"LATEWOOD"
We have light about 1 1/2 to 2 feet above plants as some are not as tall as others and did not want to chance burning any of them. Right now we are using a 400 watt H.P.S. Light on them for flowering & blooming.
Is there something wrong or better we can do ????
Jamie
i know i know --- next time we rgoing with no less than 600 watt lights... like to go 1000 but $$$$$$$$$$ LOL
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterE
I've never seen my plants stretch under my 250w HPS. the internodes are so close together that when they start secondary growth you can't even see the stalk. but, I have close grow quarters and get 8 or 9 thousand lumens per sq. foot. the best is mh and hps combined assuming heat is regulated
Liquid Karma is an additive(b vits and is considered a catalyst)...Yes you can use it by itself, but I don't think it will sustain an entire grow thru flowering stage by itself...Be careful when you make statements that newbs can mis-understand...Thanks for your $.02 worth...:smokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by BONG0
lower light until you feel a slight heat on the top of you hand when located right at the top of your plants. 16-18" is good usually, but If you have good fan blowing across top of plants and under the lamp, you can get it closer....the key is...you want your nodes to be closer together, anmd the closer then light the tighter nodal spacing will be and in the future...tighter buds.
A rule of thumb is: lower lamp until you cannot stand the heat from lamp after 30 seconds...then raise it 3" and check again...Hand at top of canopy...too hot! raise light.................Not hot! lower light. Now take note of distance from plant canopy and keep it there; raising it as necessary to keep lamp at safe distance...
remember...for every foot you have your lamp above cnaopy...You are losing 1/2 the light's potential intensity on the plants. peace