WHO KNEW KRAMER WAS A RACIST?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=...&v=w9lpKBT8uHM
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WHO KNEW KRAMER WAS A RACIST?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?search=...&v=w9lpKBT8uHM
This was already posted in the lounge. But yeah, I never did watch Seinfeld or like this guy anyways so I'm not really surprised or shocked. Maybe he's racist, maybe he's not. It's none of my fuckin business and I really don't care..I don't think anyone else should either except for the people that he actually offended.
you guys need to watch the ENTIRE video, the 2 black hecklers werent being that nice either...this video starts where Kramer had already lost it.
If anyone else has actually seen the entire video, you'd know that there were 2 men, who happened to be black, and he was just giving them back a taste of their own medicine by calling him a "white-cracker."
Watch some of his earlier stand up comedy acts, and you'll see he is quite spastic and VERY outspoken.
I'm not saying what he did was right, or okay to say, but he was retaliating against the 2 black men in the crowd who didn't care for his work.
I find it funny that a black person can call white people racial names, but when we see a 60 second piece of footage of a man saying the N word, he is labeled a racist.
I don't think Micheal Richards is racist, but he is outspoken and is making a strong point where it is just as wrong to heckle someone while performing, and calling a white man racial slurs.
^couldnt have said it any better man, thats definately true
FUCK KKKRAMER...GET HIGH....:jointsmile:
Yes very true, its always that way though. BET...not racist...White entertainment television racist, Limiting certain scholarships to black people not racist..limiting it to white people racist. Its just an over correction by society...everyday more and more its getting harder to be white. I guess it will all be equal one day. When people go to a comedy show except to hear racist jokes sexist jokes ect....they are funny, if you don't think so then dont go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nochowderforyou
i say niggger nigger nigger all thre fuckin time dont mean i dun like black ppl or think of them any diferently...i have many black friends and they dun give a rats ass either bcuz they dun got their heads stuck in the fuckin past..were in the 21st century,
umm who got the link to the whole video? hehe i wanna see!
honestly i watched this i love and i love kramer probably more than anyone here. until i saw the video. im going to be blunt here and just say what he said so if you get offended by racist remarks stop reading or dont bitch once you do.
kramer gets heckeeled. then he goes. what nigger. ffity years ago wed of hung you upside and stuck a fork in your ass. nigger nigger nigger. oh the white man c alled the black man a nigger. are ya shocked.
now i can chalk all that up to him flipping out and losing his head for awhile. but then after he calms down they call him a washed up loser who has never done anything good other than seinfeld(and this is true)
then people ask why
and he goes, once he is totally calm, that is what happens when black men interupt the white man.
ok. the guy is a racist. ill be honest if i was in his situation and people were giving me shit and i had never met them i would get them however i could. and if i was all tense i might resort to racism. actually no i wouldnt but for the sake of argument lets just say i would. id make a few stereotype things, but i wouldnt go tthats what happens when you interupt the white man, particularly after i stopped just actinmg in the heat of the moment. the man is a racist plain and simple i dont really care how many times he apologizes.
also in the video i saw, which was three minutes long, they didnt throw out the word cracker until he siad nigger about ten times. also even if they did, normally if you dont like racism you wouldnt reply by saying fifty years ago wed have hung you niggers upside down and stuck a fork in your ass. that isnt outspoken, that is racist. keep in mind i find kramer funny as hell on seinfeld, but there are no two ways about it no one who isnt a bigot would have said that end of stor y. they also wouldnt have said dont interupt the white man after they got their wits back. michael richards is a racist and the world is still a turnin.
I think those hecklers were far more out of line than Michael Richards. They were heckling a nice old man to the point where he exploded and now the media is trying to make him look like a monster. everyone has had racist thoughts at one time or another. And he apoligized and said he wasent racist and he was just calling those hecklers niggers, and not the whole race itself. He just lost his temper. Also those hecklers then called him cracker-ass and whatnot. I know it dosen't have the same effect but it had the same intention. If a black man exploded on a white man like that it would be on comedy central, not the news.
i didnt hear them call him a cracker once until he said nigger about fifteen times, and after they did call him a cracker about twenty seconds later he said thats what happens when you interupt the white man. and yes it probably would be shown a little different if a black man exploded on a white man, mainly because racial slurs against the majority are never taken seriously, honestly does any white person get offended when they are called cracker. i just laugh and wonder what it means. and it didnt happen with a black man so really there is no way to trell, but thanks for the prediction there nostradamus. i will give you this, if a white person puts a shit load of racial jokes in their act people view them as a weird racist, if a nonwhite doesnt it is cute and funny. ripping on white people is a huge part of the act for a lot of black comedians and people dont seem to have a problem with it. also douchebag carlos mencia his whole act is just racist joke you may have heard in junior high but he tries to say stereotyping is ok as long as you do it to everybody. not that i get offended by either, i just think mencia is an unfunny piece of shit and that when white people make racist jokes it shouldnt be looked at so bad when black comedians ripping on white people is so damn common
i really dont know how out of line they were. they said cracker. thats it. he said nigger nigger nigger nigger dont interupt the white man nigger fifty years ago wed have hung you upside down and stuck a fork in your ass. does this shock you me saying nigger. ooooooh he called the black man a nigger.
Racism is for people that can't think well enuff for hard hitting disrespect, it's in alternative to talking shit if you can't generate with your brain quick enuff.
For Suhl:
Cracker implies that you are a slave owner, as cracker implies cracking the whip on slaves.
I had no idea either until someone told me.
Basically I think that Kramer was trying to be a bit schocking at first, but as soon as he said it, he was probably scared, so he went overbaord to try and cover it up to make it seem "normal".
I'm just saying, watch his earlier works, even Seinfeld, the mix between his spastic personality, his outspoken acts, maybe a few drinks, and people heckling him, he lost it.
But hey, for all we know this was all part of the act. Hire a few black men for the gig, say some outrageous things, get yourself alllll over the news and media, and who knows, maybe we'll be seeing a new serious shortly from him. ;) It could have all been just a publicity act, just like the "wardrobe malfunction" between Timberlake and Mrs. Jackson...come on, we all know it was planned at the game like that. Her booby is exposed and she just stands there and doesn't cover up...sure, a malfunction. :p
I still watched Seifeld yesterday and I still see him as the same person. He is just very outspoken, and like I said, a mix between all those things, he could have just lost it, or, it could have been all an act hiring those 2 men in the crowd. Seems like a good way to get on TV.
FINALLY someone says exactly what I have been thinking about this whole matter. Michael Richards was being heckled by those guys apparently relentlessly. Richards even makes reference to that in the video by saying: "you guys have been up there talking the whole time!" as in - talking shit or just talking, either way its rude.Quote:
Originally Posted by CYRAX
So anyways, he finally blows up and the only thing he can think of is racial shit. Of course this should always be the last resort for anyone, but for some odd reason I get the impression that these black dudes were being your stereotypical "niggas" ie: young black would be gang member punks that were trying to cause trouble where it wasn't due.
That last comment will probably get people fired up but seriously people, if he weren't a celebrity nobody would have cared then and they certainly would not care now. Based on what he said I do think he is a racist, and that is a shitty mindset to have. But come on people he had a fit of rage and used a very derogitory term to try and strike a nerve with this guy.
Remember the L.A. riots? talk about racial anger.
Those niggers deserved it.
... ok in all seriousness, leave michael richards alone. They were heckeling him, calling him cracker. The video doesn't show it to try and make him look bad. You can't see all the shows those black guys went to and heckled him at. Of course he called them nigger back because they started it. This world is fucked up. I owe black people nothing. I DID NOT ENSLAVE YOUR PEOPLE, please god damnit. I see you as equal, and I make fun of every race equally.
WHITE ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL = RACIST
BLACK ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL (BET) = NOT RACIST
wtf mate? :confused:
The point is, Michael Richards was fighting fire with fire. He's always been known to be a little crazy. I just don't know why he said "100 years ago you'd be hanging upside down with a fork up your ass!" because I don't remember black people getting forks shoved up their ass.
My :twocents:
Guys heckeling an old man until he cracks = NIGGERS
Black People = NOT NIGGERS
In my mind, nigger is just a term for an ignorant person, people make it out to be the worst thing ever.
LOl i saw that vid about a week ago. that was funny...
But i dont know the WHOLE situation.