This Is Why The Iraqis Hate Us

"Not as tyrants have we come, but as liberators." - Adolf Hitler regarding the annexation of Austria

"We've never been a nation of conquerors; we're a nation of liberators." - George W. Bush
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http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/...ey_hate_us.htm

http://prisonplanet.com/video/171106beating.wmv

Prison Planet | November 17, 2006
Paul Joseph Watson

Another beating snuff video shames coalition of the killing, You Tube censors it

British troops punch, beat and kick pleading Iraqi children as a sadistic comrade films the brutal scenes of torture, laughing, screaming, growling and frothing like a serial killer filming a snuff movie. This is why the Iraqis hate us.

Iraqi children throw rocks as they flee from running British troops, are grabbed, brought inside a gate and beaten half to death. Watch the video below. The censorship spies at You Tube rejected it 2 minutes after upload so I re-named it "Fluffy Happy Poodles In Heaven," to try and bypass their keyword filters and it was still rejected. I even renamed the actual 'wmv' filename but it was still blocked for "terms of use violation." I finally managed to get it posted on Google Video. If it disappears again, here's the Windows Media link on our server.

"Oh yes! Oh Yes! You're gonna get it!" snarls the cameraman.

"Yes! Naughty little boys."

He laughs as they boys begin to scream out in pain, "Yes!"

He then takes on the tone of a demented serial killer, grunting and growling, "Yeeeeeesss, yeeeeeessss," as troops punch and kick the children.

He mocks the cries of the boys, "No please don't hurt me," laughs again and then proceeds to begin frothing in some kind of insane carnal bloodlust, "Motherfuckers, you little fuckers - die!"

Adult Iraqis are brought in and similarly assaulted - the video ends.

A probe of this video led to the arrest of the cameraman, Cpl Martin Webster, but after that the investgation seemingly went nowhere and was swept under the rug.

Originally leaked in February this year, this is just the latest in a long line of "trophy videos" that expose the true face of what the troops have been trained and ordered to do in Iraq, dominate, brutalize and enslave the population - and it's why nearly 3,000 have come home in flag-draped coffins.

This is why the Iraqis hate us.

- A CNN clip from the early days of the "liberation" shows U.S. troops finishing off an injured Iraqi. The tape cuts to an interview with one of the soldiers who states, "Like, man, you guys are dead now, you know. But it was a good feeling. I mean, afterwards you're like, hell, yeah, that was awesome. Let's do it again."

- In another clip the soldier exclaims, "Hell yeah bitches," as he audibly orgasms as the scene of carnage before him - a missile slamming into a nearby building. "I got all that shit on camera."

- U.S. troops in a convoy drive vehicles down an Iraqi highway and bemoan the fact that they are not allowed to gun down children who throw rocks at them.

- Bloodthirsty security guards and contractors hang out the back of trucks and randomly execute Iraqis driving in vehicles behind them.

- An Iraqi taxi driver who stole some firewood gets his vehicle crushed by an Abrams tank as U.S. troops cheer and holler.

These are just some of the videos that have been leaked onto the Internet. Now we know that the policy to abuse and torture innocent Iraqis just to show them who the bosses were was implicit, how many more of these kind of incidents have happened over the past three and a half years but not been videotaped by salivating zombies?

This is why the Iraqis hate us.

No one is suggesting that U.S. troops should roll over like a poodle if someone is shooting at them - they have every right to shoot back no matter what your view on the war is. The rubicon is crossed when petty thieves, children who throw rocks or completely innocent people are brutalized without recourse and the one thing that betrays the true nature of it all is the sadistic reaction of the protagonists who enjoy the torture, the beatings and the death.

Most of these individuals were brought up on a steady diet of first person shoot-em-ups, and they have overlaid the mental perception that the video games taught them on how to treat death. Distanced and emotionless, the troops see random slaughter and torture as a stress reliever, a means of letting off some steam - and it's all sanctioned from the very top.

This is why the Iraqis hate us.

The assumption that Iraq is now liberated and that its people have suffered for the glorious opportunity of seeing democracy and freedom flourish throughout their country is the last thread the Neo-Cons are hanging onto as claims of weapons of mass destruction and Al-Qaeda ties evaporated long ago. Yet to claim Iraq is liberated is the most absurd of any of the justifications for going to war or "staying the course."

Every cornerstone of what one would consider to be basic rights in a free society, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, right to fair judicial process, right to be secure from unlawful searches and seizures in one's home, have been abolished in Iraq. The occupation makes the regime of Saddam Hussein look like post-revolution America.

This is why the Iraqis hate us.

I guess the Iraqi children should feel lucky in that they got their retaliation in first by throwing rocks, many are simply arrested, hooded and taken to the torture camp for refusing to show ID at checkpoints . It's good to see that the authorities are not hypocrites and that the same kind of law enforcement techniques are practiced here at home, as Mostafa Tabatabainejad can attest to, the student was tortured for refusing to show his ID to UCLA police in a campus library.

The fun will continue when the same kind of barbarous fiends who get orgasmic pleasure from watching children being tortured come back home and become our police.

actually i think its more to do with teaching young children from Birth that Israel/The west are pigs/the enemy is why they hate us....Islam is not a peaceful religion

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Originally Posted by Myth1184

actually i think its more to do with teaching young children from Birth that Israel/The west are pigs/the enemy is why they hate us....Islam is not a peaceful religion

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I keep hearing that islam is and isn't a peacefull religion, but nobody ever provides any examples (I don't count examples of extremism valid, I mean teachings strait from the Koran). Do you have some you could share?

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Originally Posted by mrdevious

I keep hearing that islam is and isn't a peacefull religion, but nobody ever provides any examples (I don't count examples of extremism valid, I mean teachings strait from the Koran). Do you have some you could share?

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Here's hundreds of examples of intolerance, insanity and hatred in the koran:

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/int/long.html

Then again, you can find plenty of that stuff in the Bible. One of particular note is when God ordered the Hebrews to go into Jericho; kill every man, woman, child,beast and..get this..'smash the babies heads against the rocks'. (don't usually catch the evangelical pro-lifers quoting that one..lol).

And it's not that we haven't given them plenty of reasons to hate us. In the '50's the CIA -operating from the American Embassy-replaced a popularly elected leader with the Shah of Iran; a brutal son-of-a-bitch, but sympathetic to our interests.

When you're the little guy, getting fucked over and pushed around, the radical, crazy act gets the job done. Seems to be working too. Sure got us pissing our pants.

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Originally Posted by Hamlet

And it's not that we haven't given them plenty of reasons to hate us. In the '50's the CIA -operating from the American Embassy-replaced a popularly elected leader with the Shah of Iran; a brutal son-of-a-bitch, but sympathetic to our interests.

When you're the little guy, getting fucked over and pushed around, the radical, crazy act gets the job done. Seems to be working too. Sure got us pissing our pants.

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I thought that this thread was about Iraq - not Iran.

The main problem, in late 70's Iran, was the Carter administration - and the fact that the Shah wanted to bring the society, where the average education was 7th grade, into the 20th century. The idea of modernization was against everything that the Islamic fundamentalists believed.

The Ayatollah right through the present government of Iran was/are far worse than the Shah. The blame for this falls mostly on the Carter administration, when the White House was full of ex-60's pseudo-leftist radicals with big ideas.

You can find a lot of positive opinions from Iranians regarding the Shah. It was the hardcore Islamofascists that hated him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOBxcXpD4Co

Funny how Bong, Psycho, and Breuk love to focus on Islam and demonize it, yet they fail to examine the major religion of their own country, which is Christianity which is responsible for far more deaths than Islam ever produced.

Have a good one! :thumbsup:

By golly you're right..it is about Iraq. My boo...That's what I get for wake n' bake. -- Iraq hates us because we bombed them back to the stoneage. Same problem and and same shinanigans.

Saying our problems in the Middle East is all Carter's fault though is like saying Ghandi was to blame for the Holocaust, don'tcha think? Sure he hesitated when he should have acted, and some of his policy decisions were pretty lame--but problems in the Middle East aren't about a peanut farmer from Georgia. They're about one thing--Oil.

If you really want a greater understanding of what's going on in the Middle East, and a great Sci Fi read, check out Frank Herberts 'Dune'...a Science Fiction classic. A desert planet that is the most important planet in the Universe...Arrakis (<Iraq)...Arrakis has the spice. There is one mandate in the Universe--The Spice must flow. He who controls the spice controls the Universe. < it's all there; the struggle for power, the greed, the determination and fanaticism of the desert people, the schemeing, wars, murders and mayhem....no one will be disappointed.

"The Spice" ha, that brings back memories. For a long time, right after the movie Dune came out, me and my friends used to call weed "The Spice". Seemed very appropraite. After all, "The Spice Must Flow"

Anyhow, back to the topic of the thread. Unless you've been in a situation where you basically have a target painted on your back, and are constantly on the guard because there are people trying to kill you 24 hrs a day, you really have no right to judge. Ok, maybe the cases of rape and/or deliberate slaughter of obviously innocent people, but these "kids" (they looked early teens to me) were throwing rocks, and doing who knows what else, at the soldiers. It's an agressive act and the soldiers responded. They should be glad they didn't get shot.

Filming the act and taking pleasure in watching the beating is a different story.

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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat

Here's hundreds of examples of intolerance, insanity and hatred in the koran:

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/int/long.html

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as in the bible as well.

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Originally Posted by Fengzi

"The Spice" ha, that brings back memories. For a long time, right after the movie Dune came out, me and my friends used to call weed "The Spice". Seemed very appropraite. After all, "The Spice Must Flow"

Anyhow, back to the topic of the thread. Unless you've been in a situation where you basically have a target painted on your back, and are constantly on the guard because there are people trying to kill you 24 hrs a day, you really have no right to judge. Ok, maybe the cases of rape and/or deliberate slaughter of obviously innocent people, but these "kids" (they looked early teens to me) were throwing rocks, and doing who knows what else, at the soldiers. It's an agressive act and the soldiers responded. They should be glad they didn't get shot.

Filming the act and taking pleasure in watching the beating is a different story.

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now back to the topic at hand
it seems as though my neighbor wants
to kill what he cant understand
i said "wait a minute, we just cant kill what we dont understand"
but, i turn on my tv and see that, oh yes we can
we can and we have since the dawn of man
and give our love to several gods who's only seeming plan
is that we cling to this life with all we can:confused:

dai*ma:stoned: sfca 94110

Onwards Christian Soldiers,
Onwards Buddhist Priests.
Onward, Fruits of Islam,
Fight till you're deceased.
Fight your little battles.
Join in thickest fray;
For the Greater Glory,
of Dis-cord-i-a.
Yah, yah, yah,
Yah, yah, yah, yah.
Blfffffffffffft!

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Originally Posted by daima

now back to the topic at hand
it seems as though my neighbor wants
to kill what he cant understand
i said "wait a minute, we just cant kill what we dont understand"
but, i turn on my tv and see that, oh yes we can
we can and we have since the dawn of man
and give our love to several gods who's only seeming plan
is that we cling to this life with all we can:confused:

dai*ma:stoned: sfca 94110

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Don't get me wrong daima, I don't support the war in Iraq. I'm just saying that the young boys killing, and being killed in return, over in Iraq aren't the one's to blame. If someone is to be punished for the soldiers beating children it should be the idiot who sent them there.

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Originally Posted by Fengzi

Don't get me wrong daima, I don't support the war in Iraq. I'm just saying that the young boys killing, and being killed in return, over in Iraq aren't the one's to blame. If someone is to be punished for the soldiers beating children it should be the idiot who sent them there.

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And this is why I love you :D

Why did the great spirit get banned? I want to meet the great spirit!!!

Is there a time limit on bans? If not there should be!!!:mad:

Muslims are ordered by God to "slay [enemies] wherever you find them!" (4: 89). Extremists such as Osama bin Laden like to quote such verses but do so selectively. They do not include the exhortations to peace, which follow these more ferocious passages: "Thus, if they let you be, and do not make war on you, and offer you peace, God does not allow you to harm them" (4: 90).

In the Koran, therefore, the only permissible war is one of self-defense. Muslims may not begin hostilities (2: 190). Warfare is always evil, but sometimes you have to fight in order to avoid the kind of persecution that Mecca inflicted on the Muslims (2: 191; 2: 217) or to preserve decent values (4: 75; 22: 40).

The Koran actually quotes the Torah, the Jewish scriptures, which permits people to retaliate eye for eye, tooth for tooth, but like the Gospels, the Koran suggests that it is meritorious to forgo revenge in a spirit of charity (5: 45).
Hostilities must be brought to an end as quickly as possible and must cease the minute the enemy sues for peace (2: 192-3).

leave that dog turd buried




here is what he looks like in public


here he is in his trademark tinfoil

SO what did he do? I am reading but have not found it so far.

Actually GS is a pretty decent human being when it all boils down to it. Unfortunately, he's suffering from extreme paranoid psychosis. He just gets worked up too easily and doesn't know when to put a sock in it.

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Originally Posted by BlueCat

SO what did he do? I am reading but have not found it so far.

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He was argueing with BG for Closeing a thread. She told him to not reply anymore the subject was closed and he keep talking. Got 2 months off ( this is what I got from what I saw I could be wrong)

Thanks Krogith I wonder when someone is banned do the mods removed the offending thread?

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Originally Posted by BlueCat

Thanks Krogith I wonder when someone is banned do the mods removed the offending thread?

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(click GS's name and goto find all posts you can see it still)

He got banned in the Complaint against P4B

GS should be banned permanently. He's had more than enough chances to get it together, and failed - on purpose.

Was he really from Iraq? I just think it would be interesting to have a point of view from an iraqi represented here.

Do you remember that guy from Turkey that took a dump and posted it? LOL Now that was tacky.

If you are talking about GS, he's from PA.

This is one of the threads that he got banned for - but his input has rightfully been deleted. It was on 9/11/06, and I suggested kicking him off, by posting a photo of "BAN" anti-perspirant (below), because of his callous remarks.

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthrea...136#post973136

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Originally Posted by BlueCat

Thanks Krogith I wonder when someone is banned do the mods removed the offending thread?

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Depends upon what is stated in the thread and which mod. As for myself, VERY LITTLE has ever been deleted in the politics forum. This area is basically left alone for the most part. Myself, and Birdgirl spend time in here and occasionally you'll see BobBong. Just a word though, if a mod is in here posting about a topic their asses are up for grabs just like any other members but if we're involved in a piss match about guidelines it's probably best to stay clear. You just getting back in here after a while so just giving a heads up....nothing more.

G.S. has pushed the limits at every turn but just for your amusement I have lifted his ban........AGAIN!
BUT!!! He is fully aware of the past and if he makes it his future in here he'll be gone for good this time. He's the ONLY member on this forum with 2 pages of infractions. There's a couple of mods in here that he has basically went after and certain members he likes to make accusations about.....that crap is either past or he may as well not waste our time.

I don't agree with anything he says but he does add a "personallity" to politics......in a real off-beat way. I'm kind of interested to know if France actually took him in or not...LOL

Time Frames:
2.....7 Day(s)
4.....3 Week(s)
8.....2 Month(s)
12.....Life

We now use the infraction system. First is a warning....0 points...then the infraction can range from 1-?(usually 2 except for extreem cases) points which gives the amount of time off. Also, there are time limits on infractions ranging from 15-65 days. Now in order to get a lifer you had to REALLY go over the edge. I think this is the first time that the infraction system has really been explained. LOL

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by BlueCat

Was he really from Iraq? I just think it would be interesting to have a point of view from an iraqi represented here.

Do you remember that guy from Turkey that took a dump and posted it? LOL Now that was tacky.

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Great Spirit from Iraq? LOL.....he lives at home with ma and step pa. (wonder is he ever got a bedroom door) He does have a friend in a white van down the block that keeps an eye on him. LOL...there is also the chip that was implanted that gives a ringing in his right ear. Did I miss anything B.A.?

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by Krogith

He was argueing with BG for Closeing a thread. She told him to not reply anymore the subject was closed and he keep talking. Got 2 months off ( this is what I got from what I saw I could be wrong)

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He didn't get banned, though, for that argument. That simply had to do with my threatening to close the thread the thread in question and then carrying through with that threat. He got banned, as he always does, for subsequently crossing the line into personal insults. And it'll happen again. P4B finds GS more entertaining than some of the rest of us do. I just find him deeply troubled and disturbed. And frankly, I dread his return.

Oh ok I will reserve judgement for when and if he returns but if he is insensitive then I am sure you guys made the right call. :)

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Originally Posted by birdgirl73

He didn't get banned, though, for that argument. That simply had to do with my threatening to close the thread the thread in question and then carrying through with that threat. He got banned, as he always does, for subsequently crossing the line into personal insults. And it'll happen again. P4B finds GS more entertaining than some of the rest of us do. I just find him deeply troubled and disturbed. And frankly, I dread his return.

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LMAO!!! And Birdgirl73 is even DEMOCRAT!! I guess it's a good thing that some of us forgiving, peaceful folks from the right are here for ya all........LMAO!:yippee:

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Great Spirit from Iraq? LOL.....he lives at home with ma and step pa. (wonder is he ever got a bedroom door) He does have a friend in a white van down the block that keeps an eye on him. LOL...there is also the chip that was implanted that gives a ringing in his right ear. Did I miss anything B.A.?
Have a good one!:jointsmile:

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Here's another golden oldie by him, again from 9/11/06. You people better listen!

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

Oh now there's no need for you people to get mad at me simply because I know more than you. I'm trying to teach you people something. I know it is hard to accept, but its something that you have to accept if you wish to advance spiritually. It reminds me of when Y'shua was rejected by his own when he came to enlighten. He knew most people would not understand a damn word he was saying, that God is within yourself. He was seen as a blasphemer and a lunatic, the same as what you people call me.

Most people who claim to be God are considered lunatics, let alone people who claim that God speaks to them.

"For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy, that thou being a man makest thyself God. Jesus said "is it not written in your law I said ye are gods?""

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Notice how he has JC as his avatar:
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthrea...137#post973137

:eek: :eek: :eek: Claims to be God!!?? HAHAHAHA you guys kept him around for the laughs huh? :D

This one is good too..............

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

In honor of all the Muslims that have been killed due to the illegal Amerikan tyranny in Iraq and Afghanistan, I am changing my name to Mostafa Muhammad.

May all the victims of Amerikan tyranny be remembered and rest in peace.

"There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is his prophet".

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Have a good one!:jointsmile: