Dutch government backs burqa ban

This is sickening. Ok...the Dutch will tolerate people openly smoking marijuana which is illegal in most countries, yet they will ban burqas. Of course this is a severe violation of civil rights.

Holland currently has a conservative government which is horrible. The coffeeshops are under attack like never before with conservatives in power there, but they will never ban marijuana because most of their revenue will be gone.

Only a matter of time before the Amerikans ban burqas and Qur'ans.

If they ban burqas, perhaps they should ban Bibles and Yomakas too for Jews.

Fair is fair. One goes...THEY ALL GO THEN! :thumbsup:

Whos afraid of the big bad Muslim! lol
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6159046.stm

The Dutch cabinet has backed a proposal by the country's immigration minister to ban Muslim women from wearing the burqa in public places.

The burqa, a full body covering that also obscures the face, would be banned by law in the street, and in trains, schools, buses and the law courts.

The cabinet said burqas disturb public order, citizens and safety.

The decision comes days ahead of elections which the ruling centre-right coalition is expected to win.

Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk is known for her tough policies, and has clashed with past coalition partners.

Late last year she said the government would look into a ban after a majority in the Dutch parliament said they were in favour.

But MPs are facing re-election next week and any shift to the left could undermine the proposal.

Civil rights debate

After lying dormant for much of the year, the prospect of a ban seems more likely after a report by an expert committee judged that it would not contravene Dutch law.

Other forms of face coverings, such as helmets with visors that obscure the face, would also be covered by a legal ban.

An estimated 5% of people living in the Netherlands are Muslims.

But there are just a few dozen women in the Netherlands who choose to wear the burqa, a traditional Islamic form of dress.

Critics of the proposed ban say it would violate civil rights.

The main Muslim organisation in the Netherlands, CMO, said the plan was an "over-reaction to a very marginal problem", the Associated Press reported.

But Ms Verdonk insisted the burqa was not an acceptable part of public life in the Netherlands.

"The Cabinet finds it undesirable that face-covering clothing - including the burqa - is worn in public places for reasons of public order, security and protection of citizens," she said.

Tension

The country's relationship with its Islamic community has been under scrutiny since the murder of film-maker Theo van Gogh by Islamic extremists in November 2004.

The decision by the centre-right government comes days ahead of an election in which questions of immigration and nationality are likely to play a key role.

Earlier this year Ms Verdonk clashed with a minority party in the governing coalition over her handling of the citizenship case of Somali-born Dutch MP Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

The MP scripted a controversial film about the treatment of women in Islamic society, directed by van Gogh before he was killed.

But she admitted lying on her 1992 application for Dutch citizenship, and Ms Verdonk initially called for the MP to be deported.

LMAO!!! I didn't know that "freedom of religion" in the constitution also covered Burqas........

I live in the COLDER part of the country and when ya walk into a bank.....you take off the hood. It's called common sense.:D

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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That statement did not make any sense at all Psycho..... :confused:

So you're saying that it is ok for Jews to wear yamakas so they can practice their religion, but it should be illegal for Muslims to wear burqas..just for the sake of them being Muslim?

Get a fucking clue pal! :thumbsup:

I bet if the US government blamed Jews instead of Muslims for 9/11, you'd have legislation passed banning yamakas and a huge demand for Mein Kampf.

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So you're saying that it is ok for Jews to wear yamakas so they can practice their religion, but it should be illegal for Muslims to wear burqas..just for the sake of them being Muslim?

Get a fucking clue pal! :thumbsup:

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Since you only understand pictures and not articles let me spell it out for ya.

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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And people wonder why you haven't been banned for life.....LOL. Damn dude you can make me laugh!!! :rastasmoke:

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

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If they ban burqas, perhaps they should ban Bibles and Yomakas too for Jews.

Fair is fair. One goes...THEY ALL GO THEN! :thumbsup:

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Sounds good to me.

Hard to hide two dozen sticks of dynamite, wires and a detonator under a yarmulka. Not to mention, there has never been even one case of a yarmulka-wearing suicide bomber who hid the bomb under his yarmulka. So, no, it's not really much of a comparison.

They should just rephrase the laws and make them apply to everyone: NOBODY wears ANYTHING that could easily conceal a bomb. No trenchcoats, no burqas, no robes. Jesuit priest in a robe? Sorry sir, you need to take that off. Whatever. It's not so much religion or race as the type of clothing that's the potential doorway for suicide bombers to walk through.

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They should just rephrase the laws and make them apply to everyone: NOBODY wears ANYTHING that could easily conceal a bomb. No trenchcoats, no burqas, no robes. Jesuit priest in a robe? Sorry sir, you need to take that off. Whatever. It's not so much religion or race as the type of clothing that's the potential doorway for suicide bombers to walk through.

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Like I stated........coming from a northern climate; during the winter if your wearing a face mask/ full cover stocking cap that goes across the face, etc.....and walk into a bank they ask you to remove it. COMMON SENSE!

Have a good one!:thumbsup:

Western news media give little coverage to women suicide bombers, despite their increasing numbers: International terrorist expert Rohan Gunaratna estimates that 30 percent of radical Islamic suicide attackers are now women.

Terrorist leaders are encouraging their enlistment. Egyptian Sheik Yussuf al-Qaradawi has issued a fatwa (blessing) for aspiring female suicide bombers. On April 7, 2006, Al-Jazeera TV reported that three suicide bombers killed at least 70 worshipers at a Baghdad Shia mosque and wounded another 158. One of the bombers was a woman, the other two were dressed as women. Without doubt, females are becoming foot soldiers in Islam's "reverse crusade" against Western civilization and its Judeo-Christian foundations.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...4/105907.shtml

I was in a K-Mart a while back and saw a woman in a full Afghan style burqa. You know, the kind where even the eyes are covered by a mesh like piece of cloth they can kind-of see through. Call me paranoid but it made me kind of nervous.

I mean shit, this is the San Francisco Area, nobody's gonna stone them if they show a little skin. Shit, there was a guy roaming Berkely a while back totally naked and all anyone said was "there's no law against it". It just made me think, here they are in the U.S. and they still wear that thing. They've got to be pretty hard core Muslim's. Anyone that hard core, that they'd still wear it here, most likley isn't too keen on our way of life.

Now I know that most Muslims are good people. The folks who lived next to my parents for as long as I can remember are Muslims and some of the nicest people I've ever met. But still, when I a woman roaming K-Mart in a full burqa I get as far away as possible. Let's just call it an aversion to high explosives.

Well, speaking for the National Organization for Women, we're proud of the way women are making inroads into the suicide bombing career path!

So what is heaven like for a female suicide bomber? Do they get 70 male virgins :eek: Doesn't sound like paradise for any women I know.

Hmmmmm... Maybe Suicide Bombing With the Stars

Jewel heists target Asians
One recent robbery included a male thief disguised in a head-to-toe burqa
Nov. 21, 2006. 10:14 AM
BETSY POWELL AND JOHN DUNCANSON
STAFF REPORTERS


Abdul Rasheed Khalid was alone in his Brampton jewellery store filling the display cases with yellow gold rings and necklaces when two people, one wearing a head-to-toe black burqa, appeared outside his locked door.

"Salamu alaikum," the 58-year-old store owner said after pushing the entry buzzer, believing them to be a Muslim couple. There was no reply, and seconds later the pair â?? both males â?? forced him at gunpoint to the back office where he was bound with duct tape and hit several times. Then his store was cleaned out.

"Keep quiet, keep quiet, close your eyes," they said, while emptying the red velvet trays into duffel bags carried by an accomplice. Khalid caught a glimpse of the crooks. He thinks they were Pakistani or Indian.

Last Friday's daylight robbery has other South Asian jewellers across the GTA on edge, fearful they'll be next. The thieves didn't seem to care that Zaibi Jewellers is in the same strip mall as a storefront Peel Region police station at McLaughlin Rd. and Ray Lawson Blvd.

That unease is reflected by police, who say that robberies are up overall in Peel but there has been a particular spike in the number of South Asian jewellery heists. Det. Sgt. Bruce Chapman, who runs the Peel force's central robbery unit, said police are "doing everything we can to solve each and every one" of the robberies.

It's so bad that robbers, brazenly posing as police officers, hit two other stores last month, prompting Peel police to form a task force.

"They're all scared now," said Abdul Gheffar Shehzad, who provides jewellers with their wares. He and others from the industry gathered in Khalid's now-closed shop yesterday. They sat amid the empty glass displays behind a door that will be closed indefinitely.

Citing several reasons, they say they are worried they are being targeted by well-organized bandits, possibly with ties to gangs. It's not known how many businesses have been robbed, but the jewellers said at least a half-dozen retailers across the GTA have been victimized, including several businesses in Toronto's Gerrard St. India Bazaar.

The owners believe Indian jewellery stores are easy prey because they are often found in outdoor malls without security guards and with wide-open parking lots that allow criminals to make a swift getaway.

"If you go to something like a diamond jewellery store, Peoples' Jewellers for example, they're located inside large malls and it's obviously much harder to attack them versus something outside," said Imran Ahmad, Khalid's son-in-law.

Ahmad also points the finger at disaffected South Asian youth who have inside knowledge about the business dealings of the community.

"The ability to make a quick buck is very attractive to them," he said. "The first generation that came here are working hard while the second generation, partially, are coming into the crime scene."

Pakhar Jhuty said he closed shop about a year ago because he was "fed up" with the robberies and figured it was a matter of time before he got hit again. He was robbed four years ago, but the thugs got away with little.

At Nu Deep jewellers on Gore Rd. in Brampton, two suspects in police uniforms buzzed to get into the shop. The man-woman team handcuffed the victim and told him he was under arrest. The victim was beaten with a pistol, taken to the bathroom and tied up. The thieves stole jewellery and cash.

A year earlier, a 45-year-old woman was working at the Dhesi Jewelers on Airport Rd. when two people â?? one wearing a police uniform â?? sounded the front buzzer. They said they were conducting a police investigation before forcing her to the basement. When she came up, she discovered her store had been ransacked.

Two weeks ago, three people were arrested for both robberies.

But that's small comfort to the jewellers who are not convinced police are doing enough to catch the criminals and recover their jewellery. Khalid estimates he has lost $1 million and doesn't have insurance because it's difficult to get coverage in his type of business.

His son-in-law says, if police can't crack a case quickly, thieves are "going to melt all the gold into something that unrecognizable and sell it."

In the meantime, some jewellers have taken to varying their hours to throw off would-be thieves conducting surveillance.

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p4b you crack me up, apples man, freakin apples!

A burka ban is a step in the right direction


By Hans Klimstra, Dundas
The Hamilton Spectator(Nov 25, 2006)

Re: 'Dutch burka ban seems rooted in intolerance' (Letter, Nov. 23)

It is obvious the letter writer knows little about the Dutch. The Dutch nation is about the most tolerant in the world with its lax laws regarding drug use, etc.

The Dutch are, however, pragmatic about terrorism and war, having endured six years of subjugation during the Second World War. They realize that freedom can be very costly. People need to realize there are limits to freedom of expression, stopping short when other persons' liberties are endangered: yelling fire in a theatre as a hoax, flailing your arms until they contact another person, using marijuana as a sacrament, wearing a T-shirt with racial slurs, and yes, dressing in a manner that might be construed as being a danger to the public.

We are living in difficult times and need co-operation from all persons, regardless of religion and creed, to pull together to lift the tensions in the world. A burka ban would be one small step in that direction.

http://www.hamiltonspectator.com/NAS...=1112876262536

Seams easy Huh BA?


Would it help women In Isalm If they were outlawed? No, im sure.

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Men in Islamic societies are beyond help. They can't trust their own women to go out without covering their faces? These people have some serious fucking problems, sexually and otherwise, and it's clear why their most fanatical fringes take advantage of the insanity that their tribes are living each and every day.

The women aren't exactly blameless for this shit, either. They go along with it, teach it to their offspring, and refuse to change.

Since they're not at the point of mandatory burka-wearing, in most of their communities, and the majority do not want it, it's time to nip it in the bud before the epidemic of this religion gets even worse.

There's one woman in my neighborhood that wears a complete burka at all times - I only see her sometimes on the subway in the morning. She was once accompanied by her husband, a loudmouth with his own Muslim costume, who seemed like an American guy that converted in jail.


Have a good one!

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Here in the UK, if you go into any bank or financial institution it says quite clearly at the entrance you have to remove your hood or crash helmet if your a biker (legal requirement to wear one in UK). Which for obvious reasons is so that the security cameras can see you.

So why is it acceptable for these face hiding muslims to do what they want? A teacher this week was sacked for refusing to remove her face veil, now shes claiming she was unfairly sacked even though it was the children she was teaching that asked her to remove it in the 1st place.

I think we should start looking for another suitable planet and ship all the muslims out and they can do what they want then, to who they want on their own rock and stop ramming their religion down our throats.

Religion sucks, how many people have died because of religion?

Also if voting changed anything it would be made illegal!

RIP the poor russion guy poisoned this week by Putins heavies.

Said my bit, going to get blasted I know, but its only my opinion.

Roly Mo aka Maureen

Not ALL religions are that bad. Islam seems to have some scriptures (if that's the right word) where people are induced to kill infidels in order to benefit in the afterlife. I don't know that Christianity or Judaism or any other mainstream religion praises violence done in this life in return for benefits in the afterlife, regardless of who the victims of the violence might be. The extremist Islamics use those scriptures to foment killing and thus keep the cycle of violence going.

Just look how crazy Iraq has become. Two Islamic sects with minor religious differences just flat out wasting each other left and right, while the third, more civilized sect (the Kurds) just wants to be left alone. Only in retrospect can we see that it was Saddam's brutality that kept all that more or less in check. But brutality isn't really 'the American way', so how the hell are we supposed to help? Give them a new strongman to dictate their lives so they don't kill each other? Maybe this will provide the American people a valuable lesson: don't create a problem until you FIRST figure out how you're going to solve it. And if it's not a problem we CAN solve, best not to get involved at all.

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Not ALL religions are that bad. Islam seems to have some scriptures (if that's the right word) where people are induced to kill infidels in order to benefit in the afterlife. I don't know that Christianity or Judaism or any other mainstream religion praises violence done in this life in return for benefits in the afterlife, regardless of who the victims of the violence might be. The extremist Islamics use those scriptures to foment killing and thus keep the cycle of violence going.

Just look how crazy Iraq has become. Two Islamic sects with minor religious differences just flat out wasting each other left and right, while the third, more civilized sect (the Kurds) just wants to be left alone. Only in retrospect can we see that it was Saddam's brutality that kept all that more or less in check. But brutality isn't really 'the American way', so how the hell are we supposed to help? Give them a new strongman to dictate their lives so they don't kill each other? Maybe this will provide the American people a valuable lesson: don't create a problem until you FIRST figure out how you're going to solve it. And if it's not a problem we CAN solve, best not to get involved at all.

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If the Islamic religion demands total theocracy, then there is no denying that Saddam was a better choice as the leader of Iraq. This guy presented a much smaller threat to us than al quada, or similar terrorists, - and we upset the apple cart by overthrowing him.

The religious right gravitates toward theocracy - they feel that they have more in common with Islam than, god forbid, atheism. Even though Saddam was/is most certainly not an atheist, many in the Christian right prefer working with the Islamic way of thinking as opposed to a more secular tyrant.

If we had leaders with balls, theyâ??d just come out and tell the truth about Islam. They do not, therefore we must question if they even know anything at all.

Of course, it's all about money in the end. The more craziness that is happening, the more the rich get richer and you know the rest.

..."when in Rome....do as the Romans do"...

I can't help but wonder, what exactly is the danger in women wearin a headdress? If the authorities are looking for Muslim extremists, the burqa obviously isn't going to hide the fact they're muslim.

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I can't help but wonder, what exactly is the danger in women wearin a headdress? If the authorities are looking for Muslim extremists, the burqa obviously isn't going to hide the fact they're muslim.

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If if walked into a bank, or store, with an executionerâ??s hood on, I'd be thrown out - or worse. This shit doesn't fly in a civilized society. If they want to cover their face at home, by all means they are welcome to do it. I admit that most of them look much better with the burka hiding their features, but it's too dangerous to allow it.

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If if walked into a bank, or store, with an executionerâ??s hood on, I'd be thrown out - or worse. This shit doesn't fly in a civilized society. If they want to cover their face at home, by all means they are welcome to do it.

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You wouldn't really have a valid cultural, religious, or other reason to be wearing an executioners hood though. I still don't see the "danger".

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You think most muslim women are ugly? Such classy generalizations.

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You wouldn't really have a valid cultural, religious, or other reason to be wearing an executioners hood though. I still don't see the "danger".
You think most muslim women are ugly? Such classy generalizations.

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The danger of wearing a face covering, other than in very cold conditions, is that anybody could be hiding under it. It's a mind-fuck, and I think that it's about time we told them where to stick it.

The whole purpose of this religion, like others, is to take over the world. They are very serious, though, and may very well do it if we don't wake up.



P.S. If you saw as many as I do, you'd agree that they are ugly. It's probably due to excessive inbreeding.

hahahahah this thread s v funny...

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The danger of wearing a face covering, other than in very cold conditions, is that anybody could be hiding under it. It's a mind-fuck, and I think that it's about time we told them where to stick it.

The whole purpose of this religion, like others, is to take over the world. They are very serious, though, and may very well do it if we don't wake up.

P.S. If you saw as many as I do, you'd agree that they are ugly. It's probably due to excessive inbreeding.

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Hey Breuk, you better watch out. Not so much for these comments but for the fact that you're posting porn. I mean seriously man, what were you thinking? That woman in the blue burqah's ankle is showing. If this were the hills of Eastern Afghanistan/Western Pakistan they'd be stoning you by now. And I don't mean in a good way.

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Hey Breuk, you better watch out. Not so much for these comments but for the fact that you're posting porn. I mean seriously man, what were you thinking? That woman in the blue burqah's ankle is showing. If this were the hills of Eastern Afghanistan/Western Pakistan they'd be stoning you by now. And I don't mean in a good way.

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I never preferred the hash from those countries, anyway. ;)

Nepal and Tibet have Hinduism and Buddhism. Both have better hash.

Maybe this will provide the American people a valuable lesson: don't create a problem until you FIRST figure out how you're going to solve it. And if it's not a problem we CAN solve, best not to get involved at all. Well said! The current administration wasn't smart enough to figure this out and now they want us to continue this madness, preposterous. I think we should fire them all, even the wolfman, whom was the prime designer of this insane plan (Iraq), Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, and the afore mentioned Wolfowitz, the big four. I'm sure there are a lot of other players that need some time alone (or with someone) in a federal cell! I think this is a house of cards and if they start pulling them out one at a time, they'll all come tumbling down. One can only hope!

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I'm sorry Breukelen, but I'm still not seeing it, I need a more solid answer. Anybody could be hiding under it, so what? The danger from any human being, is the fact that they are a human being, which isn't hidden by a burka. Unless Kim Jon Ill himself is walking around, I still see no threat. If the person is weaking a headdress, you see a muslim. If the person is walking around without one, you see a middle-eastern person who's probably muslim.

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The whole purpose of this religion, like others, is to take over the world. They are very serious, though, and may very well do it if we don't wake up.

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Actually, the whole purpose of many middle-eastern dictators and terrorists is to take over the world. You can't honestly tell me all the muslims are out to conquer planet Earth. Is Dave Chappelle (a muslim) out to conquere the world? I don't know, maybe he's doing it by tricking us youngers into smoking weed and distracting us with laughter. If you're only speaking from some literary context regarding Islam, then christianity has to go in there too. The christian's are a threat oh my!

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I've seen plenty of beautiful middle eastern women, and good-looking middle-eastern guys. Even if you're right, maybe by their standards they look beautiful. And I'd really be interested to see if you have a source showing that everybody in the middle east is screwing their sisters. In the meantime, you don't have to be so derogatory and hatefull towards a huge population of humanity. It's no wonder we can't solve our own problems when we're busy attacking our own species because of variations therein.

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I've seen plenty of beautiful middle eastern women, and good-looking middle-eastern guys. Even if you're right, maybe by their standards they look beautiful. And I'd really be interested to see if you have a source showing that everybody in the middle east is screwing their sisters. In the meantime, you don't have to be so derogatory and hatefull towards a huge population of humanity. It's no wonder we can't solve our own problems when we're busy attacking our own species because of variations therein.

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Hey, they hate our culture, and make no bones about it. The musician Richard Thompson is a Muslim, and does not hurt anybody - but it's not relevant.

They also hate freedom of speech. I am not "attacking" anybody but the backwards-thinking people that want to bring everything into the dark ages - or worse, since they now have atomic weapons at their disposal.

Here's some interesting words about pedastry and incest:

The Journal of Psychohistory, Fall 1991, Vol. 19, No. 2
http://www.psychohistory.com/htm/06a1_incest.html

PEDOPHILIA IN THE EAST AND MIDDLE EAST

However high the rates of childhood molestation may turn out to be in contemporary Western countries, the incidence in countries outside the West is likely to be much higher. Because they have only recently moved beyond what I have termed the infanticidal mode of childrearing, whereby as much as half of the children born were killed by their parents, the use of children for the emotional needs of adults is far more accepted, an attitude that fosters widespread incestuous acts along with other child abuse. Although the evidence is scattered and much remains hidden, enough exists to indicate the dimensions of what eventual scholarship will probably uncover.

Sex for boys in the Middle East is said to begin in infancy and continue throughout childhood. Parents and others masturbate the infant's penis in order "to increase its size and strengthen it," and older siblings have been observed playing with the genitals of babies for hours at a time. As the boy gets older, mutual masturbation, fellatio and anal intercourse are said to be common among children, particularly with the older boys using the younger children as sex objects as a reaction to the over stimulation of the family bed. Pederasty of boys by the men in and near the ex-tended family is said by an Arab sociologist to be common, since "the mere sight of pretty boys is regarded.. .as disturbing and terribly tempting." Moralists often find it necessary to issue warnings such as these: "A man should never spend the night in a house with beardless boys" and "Do not sit next to the sons of the rich and noble: they have faces like those of virgins and they are even more tempting than women.".

As girls in the Middle East are considered worth less than boys, it may be that their incestuous use during childhood is even more prevalent. One report found that four out of five Middle Eastern women recalled having been forced into fellatio between the ages of 3 and 6 by older brothers and other relatives. A female Arab physician who recently conducted an extensive study of childhood seduction reported that "most female children are exposed to.. incidents of sexual assault" during their early years by "the brother, the cousin, the paternal uncle, the maternal uncle, the grandfather or even the father. If not a family member, he may be the guardian or porter of the house, the teacher, the neighbor's son, or any other man." The molestation, she says, begins with masturbation or fellatio and then proceeds to intercourse. "In most cases the girl surrenders and is afraid to complain to anyone, since, if there is any punishment to be meted out, it will always end up by being inflicted on her. It is she alone who loses her honor and virginity. The man never loses anything..." The incidents are termed "frequent, but remain hidden, stored up in the secret recesses of the female child's self, since she dare not tell anyone of what has happened to her..."


Arab women, of course, are often aware that their spouses prefer having sex with little boys and girls to having sex with them. Their retribution for the men's pedophilia comes when the girl is about age 6, when the women of the house grab her, pull her thighs apart and cut off her clitoris and sometimes her labia with a razor, thus usually ending her ability to feel sexual pleasure forever.



http://www.psychohistory.com/htm/06a1_incest.html

PEDOPHILIA IN THE EAST AND MIDDLE EASTMan that is graphically disturbing. I was about to post that I've seen some beautiful Iraqi women on TV. Never been around middle easterners so I find your post appaling. Lets hope for the childrens sake it is not factual. Also isn't pot legal in Afganistan and Iraq. What do you think they smoke in those hookas, tobacco, not hardly! I think most Iraqis and Afgans (Men) are pretty stoned most of the time, I know I would be if I were them!

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PEDOPHILIA IN THE EAST AND MIDDLE EASTMan that is graphically disturbing. I was about to post that I've seen some beautiful Iraqi women on TV. Never been around middle easterners so I find your post appaling. Lets hope for the childrens sake it is not factual. Also isn't pot legal in Afganistan and Iraq. What do you think they smoke in those hookas, tobacco, not hardly! I think most Iraqis and Afgans (Men) are pretty stoned most of the time, I know I would be if I were them!

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I hate to break it to you but, as a matter of fact yes, it is tobacco. They have smoking salons in New York including one in my neighborhood that just recently went out of business - which would not be legal if it was hash or grass. Their religion forbids cannabis use, and the religion of Islam IS the law for them.

Cannabis is extremely illegal in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. I haven't seen any Afghanistan hash in many years, but I'm sure that it still exists to some extent. Their main crop is opium. They majority of the heroin in Europe, and a significant amount in the U.S. and Canada, is manufactured from Afghanistan opium.

God damn! that was a disturbing read, and sad to think that kind of stuff happen's in the world. However, the article seems to be focused on pedophilic incest, not actual reproduction of the species through incest. I still doubt the majority of middle easter people are the product of incestuous breeding, but who knows.

EDIT: I think cannabis is still prevalent in afghanistan since they taliban has been growing jungles of it to hide from infrared sensors.