High Tech

I've posted this on other sites, am not getting any feedback.
I'll be changing to something a little different. I hope I can rattle some cages and get some input. I'll be posting some chicken scratch drawings, and making alot of reference links to information and products.

(oh, but please, first read my signature and join to help keep inworld drugs free!)

Please, keep in mind, this is still in the thinking stage. And, quite dependant on technology and prices, which is dropping fast, im happy to say. We want more power, less space, less price.

I'll be prototyping only one of three different sized compartments first. The 96 cubic foot Pod should provide room for four and possibly 6 plants. Maylar lined with spray adhesive, if possible. (any thoughts)
http://www.storage-and-organization....INETS_58_7.htm

Lighting will be LED, for too many reasons to list here. I'll give you a reference, cause nobody says it easier than somebody else.:D
http://www.led-grow-master.com/
They know all the numbers, but we want powerful numbers. So, I'm going to build my own. And, hopefully save from their pricetag. Examples, of what im looking at.
http://www.theledlight.com/5mmcoloredleds.html
http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/sto...roductId=20600
Ratios would run roughly 70% red(625-630, 25% blue(465-470), 5% green(525). Changed for optimum performance and at various intravals through out the grow cycle. There are many applications LED's can be used for. I might break out some more ideas on those later on.

Plants will be grown Rockwool and 4" net pots, in three, to possibly four, liter open air root chambers. Which will be secured to 2.5 gallon reservoir. Nutrients will be sprayed into the chamber with mister nozzles mounted to each side using a submersible mini pump (See: chicken scratch #1). I know that ultrasonic foggers will be used in the smaller plant and clone chambers, but still debating use for large scale plants. An air pump, placed outside the building, and stones will provide fresh air for the roots. Left long enough, the air tube can be coiled over a heater and provide some warmth to the reservoir. Some example products.
http://www.mainlandmart.com/foggers.html

http://www.water-garden-shop-relaxin...tain_Pro_Pumps

http://www.mrdrip.com/microsprinklers.htm (Micro Sprayer/Fogger #07-055)

http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/pro...uct%5Fid=16417 (6 to 8qt. Res.)

http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/cat...Fname=3&Page=1 (125 oz. and up)

I'll leave this thread open for a few hours for any Q&A, then I'll continue the setup.

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Why don't I see my signature on my posts?

anybody got any input at all?

There is no reason to spam multiple forums with "read my post for info"

Your post will be looked through, you simply have to give it time without beating people over the face with it.
Signatures are open to users with 50+ posts.

Welcome to the forum.. but please remember this is a forum.. it will take hours,days and even weeks to get the feedback you're looking for.

Bob.

So the posts I made had nothing to do with helping people? Someone asking about light spectrums has nothing to do with LED lighting? I'm just trying to get some feedback. Maybe, it's useless anyway.

I'm just stating that you don't need to post " Read my post for more info." in 8 or 9 different forums.

Give it time, you'll get feedback.

I got 0 from the other sites after like a week......So do you know anything?

I think that with the LED it is really unfamiliar to people for the most part kind of like CFL's used to be so not to many people are giving it allot of thought at this point. My suggestion is to journal a nice grow with some of the ideas you have then you'll start to get some interest. Think about it you want to basically make a small revolutionary change in the way 99% of people grow MJ right now, so some links and some chicken scratch won't really do much for you IMO. I ain't trying to bust your bolts so don't take it that way.
People used to nock the CFL idea's but once they saw some killer results like Bob journaled for us the people started to really sit up and check it out. Give people something they can sink their teeth into, or something they can stick in their pipe and you'll get allot more input IMO. It's the nature of the beast.
There are other sights that have forums on micro growing that are doing the LED grows and perhaps you need to check out what they are doing for in house grows and incorporate the ideas into your plans and give us a prototype grow.
Adieu

Did you read the link?
http://www.led-grow-master.com/
And check out these beauties.
http://www.ledgrowlights.com/

Low light plants include: African violets, some orchids, parsley, fleshy-stemmed herbs, some annuals. Some low light plants may require less.

High light plants include: Peppers, tomatoes, some orchids, roses, woody-stemmed herbs, some annuals.


It seems overly expensive for the amount of light you're actually using. I see lettuce and parsley and african violets , which.. to be frank don't require a lot.
I personally feel that LED lighting would be ideal for seedlings and clones as you can strongly control the spectrum of the light.
However.. for a 3 foot plant 6 weeks into flower....well.. I guess we won't know until it's done!

Thanks for the Links, hope to see more LED research in the near future.

Luxeon is breaking the rules on LED and power output. But, still a little costly. Leaning towards mass flood and prox. to the plant. Instead of costly output. In fact, considering stringing LED's through the plants after 3 week flowering stretch. And have ideas for a cola booster of sorts.

Cut the bottom of a 2 & 3 liter bottle off. Line the inside of the 3 liter with aluminum foil and add about 4 of these in blue and red. Place the 2 liter inside the 3 liter, and hang it on your colas.
http://www.theledlight.com/light_bars.html

Considering I've read that only 1% of the light coming from the sun, gets to, and is a usable spectrum by plants. The numbers on HID lights is only slightly better with 6%, mostly due to directional lighting.

There is massive amounts of LED info coming online in the last 2 years. And, the technology is advancing faster than we get it. Meaning Luxeon scratches half of what they make, because they made it better before it went to market.

At any rate, after a year of research, I have nearly $400 in products shipping, and should have a working prototype within 45 days.

The makers of the LED grow lights, I listed, are using 3mm bulbs, 5k - 10kmcd, with a viewing angle of 40 - 60 degrees. I'll be using 5mm and 10mm bulbs, 40k - 65kmcd, with a wiewing angle of 90 - 120 degrees, in quite larger arrays.

Some better examples of LED's and Prices.
http://stores.ebay.com/TopBright-Led-Store

Using less LED lights than thought, so I'll have plenty of backups.

Well I'm looking forward to seeing this progress. I'm probably not a lot of help at this point, I've only researched and toyed with LEDs. I've found the way that makes the most sense is to use 3 and 5 watters. 10 and 15 watters make the project much more expensive for the same amounts of light. I'm sure this will change in the near future. I don't think proper LED grow lights exist, though a few come close (SnS). I'd build my own for sure.

Are you familiar with rockwool? If not, I suggest not using it. It's hard to work with and in general it sucks, though many people seem to like it. Clay pellets are much easier, cheaper, and safer.

Bob is worried that LED might not work for a mature plant, but I disagree. Depends on wattage, viewing angles, and spectrum. We have just begun to scratch the surface of what is capable with LED grows. What I've seen is just not quite there yet, but it's very promising and getting closer all the time. Maybe you can be the first to really make something big happen. I think it's real simple. Use a lot of 465 in veg, and a lot of 660 in bud. Maybe a little 300 at certain times, and maybe some 735 so you can have an extra 2 hours of light in budding, or maybe not. Just blue and red will do just fine if set up properly.

I'll be watching. BlueBear is probably in the ball park about people not responding because this is relatively new technology. We'll show em.

Hey Opie ,
Don't think my man had too much luck . lol
That threads 2 yrs old now .

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Crispi :stoned:

wow xcrispi, I didn't even notice. I feel kinda stupid now. From his talk in a LED thread I thought this was up and going. Maybe I should look at dates.