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has anyone else heard that before? that weed was just a gateway drug? every person i talk to who downs weed brings up the fact that weed always leads to worse drug use.
do you agree/disagree?
personally, i disagree. i know a lot of potheads who have been smoking for years upon years and dont use worse things. im 100% satisfied with MJ, why would i need anything else?
weed isnt the gateway, youre the gateway.. if you smoke weed and dont wanna do any other drugs, then nothin and nobody is gonna make you.. if you give in and do other drugs tis your fault.. just because u smoked weed before u used herion doesnt mean youll do herion after you smoked.. if thats the case, then coffee, chocolate, aspirin, damn even apples and oranges are gateway drugs, because im sure every herion addict has tried all of them before he/she got on to herion
haha nice point ;D i agree
another one of their arguments is that weed stops getting you high.. and you look for other ways to get that same high back.
for the long time smokers, how have you kept your immunities to weed down?
sorry for hogging up all your questions, BB lol
umm i dunno if im classed as a long term smoker.. i mean, im 17 and ive been smoking for nearly 5 years... so, technically, ive been smoking for about a third of my life lol... anyway, yeah ive tried other drugs, but only because i wanted to.. i still get just as high now as i always have.. actually, i get more high now than i used to coz i know how to smoke better and more affectively.. plus i used to just smoke to get fucked up, now i smoke for a whole load of other reasons.. but, anyway, where was i? oh yeah.. after 4/5 years of smoking regularly i still get as high s ever, if not more so, and ive only done other drugs because i chose to... if people blame weed for takin other drugs than theyre either ignorant, stupid or a fuckin politician
Yeah...i used to be so innocent. The i went to a party with a freind. Somebody had scored some of this krazy new drug...he called them oranges...its true what they say. The first time was amazing. After that i couldnt get enough. I began to fail school, alienate my freinds and family. I began selling my my things just to get that next fix of sweet, sweet oranges. After i got caught robbing a bank to feed my voracious addiction, they put me in rehab for 18 months. Ive been clean for 2 years.
Are you like John...do you need help with oranges?
lmao up until the last sentence i thought you were being serious * haha i was like "what the fuck? he robbed a bank for oranges??"
weeds not a gateway, i agree wit ghost, but some poeple smoke weed, and there like well this high is good but i want something stronger, so they go snort a rail or something and they want bigger and badder highnext, and so the vicious trail goes on
Technically anything can be a gateway drug if you dissect it enough. Gateway Theory is just a poor excuse to convince people not to smoke marijuana.
You have home grown and weed and then ditch weed
or worst I know the older kids here and when they tell me that pot don't get them high any more, I brake out a pinner and tell them to take 2/3 hits from it. and they ask where i got it from I tell them canada, iiit is home grown, but they are on there butts. The weed we have been geting here you can't get a buzz off of. its like taking a bow of your lawn cuting and smoking it.
Ive smoked for 4 years and have only...ONLY done other drugs because i wanted to, not because smoking told me to.
If it ain't natural, I won't do it. Sweet cheeba and shrooms, that's all I've ever done. I don't really like the buzz alcohol gives you, but I have nothing against it. (I DO however, have something against alcoholics.)
Gateway theory is a bunch of bullshit, and I'm not saying that because I smoke more bud than tommy chong. I say this because in theory, it breaks down. Marijuana isn't the strongest drug out there. SOMETHING led to you trying weed for the first time. I say that was the gateway drug. (Mmmm.... oranges..)
Fuck anyone who says otherwise. I do this (and any other) drug because I WANT TO. It's up to me, and no substance, person, institution, or fucking cop dictates my action. OVERGROW THE GOVERNMENT!!!!
i hvent been smoking that long ( like 9 montsh or so) but ive still had no desire to try ne other drug ever (unless u count alcohol and like 2 cigs once), ive never even seen coke or ex or ne of that shit cuz im not into it... its not hard to stay away from hard drugs, u jsut have to make sure u dont wanna try em and its easy...i hate that gateway theory bullshit, its just a theory like the existance of god...
ive been smokin 9 months. Ive only tried E other than weed, and thats because i was curious on what it did. Like someone said in this thread earlier, weed isnt the gateway, you are.
I don't think smoking weed necessarily leads to other drugs, but I have to say that my attitude towards other drugs has changed a great deal since I started smoking pot. I think that now I do consider trying stuff that I wouldn't have even thought about before smoking pot. Funnily though, I have no curiosities about the drugs that are commonly the ones that people are afraid weed leads to, namely heroin, E, coke, crack, etc. and have become more interested in spiritual substances like salvia, shrooms, and DMT which I would only take on very rare occasions, i think weed is still the only drug I'm comfortable using habitually, so I guess in the important ways (i.e. chronic use of very harmful substances), weed's not a gateway but like Ghost said, you're the gateway. I'm happy where I am.
BB- first off, i don't start developing serious immunity/tolerance unless i've been smoking all day every day for a while, but when I do, even a few days off will get me back to light-weight status ;). If you smoke in moderation most of the time, it probably won't become a problem just because of the time, I think quantity is a big factor in figuring how high the tolerance goes. Sometimes i'll smoke a J, be high for like 20 minutes, and then feel nothing, and that's when I know I've been smokin too much.
Also what helps sometimes, is going out drinking and getting disgustingly wasted. I find that when i'm hungover, a doobie is the greatest medicine, and I realize the beauty of the buzz in contrast with the confused pointless alcoholic stupor I was in the night before...
peace
ps- cool poem BB.
I came to this cannabis site and read all about a bunch of mad chemicals Im now keen to try. :)
Ghostoker's completely right. Marijuana cannot be considered a gateway drug.. you can't blame something else (especially something as harmless as weed) for YOUR drug use. Whether you choose to use harder drugs or not comes from within you. There isn't a voice inside of weed saying "use coke! heroin man!" Same with amotivational syndrome... If you choose to sit around and let your life turn to shit, then that's your problem. Everything comes down to the individual. Reminds me of addiction - sure, harder drugs can be pretty addictive, but if you had enough sense to stay away from them, or enough willpower, then you wouldn't be selling your neighbors cat for some crack.
Of course, selling your neighbors cat for an orange is a different story.
ghost iz rite on this 1, weed duznt make u take other drugz. the only reason that the gov'tz arguement iz still in play iz becuz the majority ov hard drug userz has started wit pot, got such a high tolerance that they figured they'd try sum coke, hopin it wood get them az high az the first time they smoked pot. so sure if yah look at the statz u cood say itz a gateway drug, an get the majority ov a population 2 beleive yah, but fer all the pot smokerz, we kno itz a bunch ov bullshit. if u tried coke, itz becuz u wanted 2, not becuz the gram u picked up last nite told yah 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
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I have smoked weed for about 7 years now. It was the first drug i tried. I have tried others since but not habitually. If that the reason i tried E's, coke etc is due solely to weed why did i stop them, and continue to smoke weed? The whole 'gateway' argument is a pile of shit- proliferated by self obsessed do gooders intent of taking away any small pleasures left in this world. They try to group 'drugs' under one evil banner, but don't realise that it is probably their kids out there popping Es and stuffing coke up their noses.
Anyway, if you really want to get pedantic, the first drug i actually tried was alcohol! you don't hear the politicians lobbying for that to be banned- do i hear cries of lost tax revenue or am i just being cynical!
Here in the uk we have problems with alcohol- binge drinking at the weekends mainly. From a social point of view cannabis has far fewer implications compared to alcohol- which would you rather have- hoards of pissed up cunts fighting, smashing up cars and being generally abusive, or some chilled out stoners looking for a shop cos they've got the munchies?
Thats my rant for the day. Peace.