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I'd like to know what are some obvious and not so obvious signs of someone being an undercover cop.
I have been pretty dry lately and lost my connections long time ago. I recently had a guy offer to sell me some at a bar but I was paranoid so I declined. I really wanted it and I really thought of purchasing. I think I was even drooling a bit when he showed me the bag. So if anyone know...how do you know when someone's a cop?
if they act like a sober person, they prolly are
if someone is talking with a slight laugh, real relaxed, bloodshot eyes, def someone you can buy off of
I always assume that cops are out to bust sellers. I do not know if it is worth the paperwork and cost to try to bust someone buying. It would be interest to know difference in charges.. I know every state is different. The guy was Probably just short on cash and trying to make a buck . Going to Charge you enough to get his next bag. I think the biggest risk would be get losing a couple of bucks. I would just get the smallest amount possiable and build up some trust. Every transaction I have been in has started with lighting up.. Now I have had people ask me if I am a cop which I think is a urban legend that they have to tell you. They can lie thier ass off.
Sounds like I have more questions than answer......
I don't think it's possible to identify cops without error. They look all sorts of ways, especially undercover ones. None of the drug enforcement/undercover cops I've ever known would bother with a small-time buyer, though, unless they just stumbled across you . . .
Well I think if they ask you and they are a cop it would be entrapment. If they approach you and ask you if you want to buy, you should be fine, assuming the cops are playing by the rules.
But than again when I was in NYC a few years ago, me and my buddy were walking back from a comedy club at 2 am we turned a corner and saw this guy standing there. When we walked by him he stopped us and asked us if we needed anything. I told him no, but thanks, and than he asked "You sure you don't want some weed or anything." I told him no again and than he asked if we had anything to sell to him. After saying no again we started to walk away and he began to follow, so we walked faster. When we got to the corner we made the turn and there were like 10 NYPD just chilling on the corner. I'm not sure if the dude talking to us was a cop, or someone trying to jack us. I'm guessing the later though, and I was never so happy to see those blue uniforms. What ever he was, he stopped following us once we passed the cops.
just ask him i'f he's a cop. my homie got arrested selling drugs to an undercover cop who he thought was his homeboy for about 2-3 years. the guy smoked weed, sniffed coke, smoked crack, everything. like i said 2-3 years undercover and he got busted not too long ago. anyways that was a buyer tho. HMM it's really up to you to determin i'f you think he's a cop, it's a simple guess and you better hope it's the right one. i've dealt with ALOT of cops and still i cant ever really tell 100% i'f someone is undercover or not. i usually go with my gut when it comes to strangers..OH and undercover cops usually try and catch BIG time dealers or buyers..if the guy asked something like "WANNA BUY A POUND OF SOME HERB or WHERE CAN I BUY A POUND/KILO or w/e it's usually a DEF sign that he might be a cop.. LIKE THE RULES SAY NEVER TRUST STRANGERS my guess was you should have bought it..but dont get friendly with him either..
to try and answer your questions, ask him i'f he's a cop(dont always trust this though, they dont have to tell you they are if they are but its worth a try). hmm check the way he dresses, usually undercover cops try and dress like dealers and they overdue it. listen to the way he talks.. listen to key words..get update on the recent drug slang.. for example( hey miss want to be some marijuana DEF sign of a cop; (buyer) yeah i need some crack/rocks DEF sign of a cop... the way they ask you can sometimes give it away..if u are streetwise that is... thats my 2 cents though
you dont thats the whole point in them being undercover....just because their pigs doesn't mean their stupid:rasta: !!DONT UNDERESTIMATE THE LAW!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheery Cherry
right u r birdgirl.Quote:
Originally Posted by birdgirl73
undercover in a bar trying to sell weed? geez..., whats a person who wants to get a buzz to do?
the bartender trying to sell you poison, the cop trying to take your freedom.
fuck. it just aint fair.
i would suggest that any person who is thinking about buy weed from a person in a bar, and they arent sure if the person in the bar is a cop, buy the person a drink, a shot, and watch them drink some of it. Cops cant drink on duty, and you have a great witness if he/she does and then tries to deny it. The Bartender.
I'm glad that i dont have these kinds of concerns. here in San Francisco the buds ard a plenty and cops dont hassle pot smokers.
In San Francisco you get in more trouble j-walking, than you do j-smoking.
I grow my own, and i wouldnt have it any other way.
peace,
dai*ma:stoned:
well my old man says the woodstock generation
found a way to make this nation open up its eyes
and take a look around. He says, "my generation
aint good for nothin'"
well i could think of somethin'
so i decided to jot it down
so here's to..
hair gel
hanging out at the health spa
using condom sense
and watching LA law
here's to drum machines
stone wash jeans
credit cards and fax machines
big bald headed chicks with frat guys
wearing 40$ tyedye t-shirts
and big bold paisly ties
heres to livin' off dad
as long as you can
and blending in with the crowd
Oh my generation should be proud
We were raised up in the hallowed halls
half a million shopping malls
and there aint any price that we're too proud to pay
we'll buy anything from diet sprite
to one thousand points of light
i admit we aint that bright
but i'm proud anyway:dance: :dance: ;)
They smell like cop...
Trust your instinct's and you must be the one to seek and initiate a meeting,not be approached!!!
Undercover agents can be really tough to pick out.
A couple 'connections of connections' got busted by an undercover who was really deep into the lifestyle. He was pierced and tattooed and smoked herb with the guys and was even sleeping with one of the dealers' girlfriends. It got pretty ugly- fistfights and whatnot- and no one suspected for a moment that he was a narc until he showed up at their araignments.
Grow your own.
hahaha, your all saying undercovers are hard to see, where im from you can tell one a mile off, any man about 30 - 40 years old wearing clothes that a kid would wear, asking if you want to buy 'hashish' or 'draw' or 'dope' is an undercover lol they dont have a clue what people call it, or how people speak, and to be honest, anyone coming up to you and asking if you want to buy any smoke is gonna stitch you anyway, so just stick to your own dealer lol works out alrite that way lol
i wuz wundrin sumthin...Quote:
Originally Posted by Abattoir Dream
can u b more specific about the clothing thing?
i am 50 and still enjoy my tye dyes, my converse chuck taylor hightops, my pro-marijuana t-shirts, and silly hats.
i still call marijuana...
grass
herb
ganja
spinach
weed
pot...etc etc
in your opinion, is there an age where i should stop playing my guitars, growing my hair, stop wearing tye dyes, wearing pro-cannabis t-shirts,silly hats, and wearing CT high tops?
what is "kid clothing".., other than obviously small kids clothes, and barney, instead of a leaf etched on it?
dai*ma:stoned:
you will never spot a uc
till your court date
if you buy bud in small amounts
like an ounce or less
you should have no worries
uc's are out for big fish
if you get caught just admit to being a pothead
silly hats are great not matter what your ageQuote:
Originally Posted by daima
i agree:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by napolitana869
but i also like silly pants
silly shirts
silly socks, and , acting silly.
dai*ma:stoned:
sometimes i feel like i'm getting older
sometimes i feel like i am getting wiser
but, growing up aint nothing but
all these indecisions
with these debts and
doubts and worries
hanging over my head
when i was a child
i spoke as a child
oh god
i wish i could remember
what i said:confused:
Hee Hee. I love it.:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by daima
Once I own a house, which I am in the process of purchasing right now, I will be growing my own. So cops are not allowed to drink on the job, they are not allowed to lie about being a cop when asked...so it would be safe if I saw him smoke the weed?
You are NEVER too old to wear tye dyes!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by daima
That I consider hippie clothing. Young adult or teen clothing consist more of, just your casual baggier jeans and a decent shirt.Quote:
Originally Posted by daima
in nyc not all but some have a different ezpass than normal people i forget what color it is though
I think if hes a cop he wouldn't ask you, you would have to ask him (even if he shows u bags).
Hi cheery cherry,Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheery Cherry
it is my most humble opinion that it would be easier for a cop to lie about being a cop, than it would be for a cop to call a bar full of people, and the bartender, a liar. Cops lie everyday in this all too real, but phoney none-the-less, war on some drugs.
A cop can use the term"simulated smoking" in court. (definitiaon of simulated smoking is....I put joint to lips, puffed, but didnt inhale). Whats unfair is, we cant. :confused: lol
I would like to wish you the best of luck with your new home:thumbsup:
Good job!;)
dai*ma
I dont think cops can "sell" weed to bust people, thats well, illegal. Even if they do, if a cop comes up to you and ask if you wana buy some weed, and you go Yea, thats not Entrapment. But, if you say no, and he keeps nagging you to buy it, and yoy eventually do, that is however entrapment. Usually when a buyer gets busted, its cause he was watched making a purchase usually from a dealer being watched, or a Dealer helping the cops.
Entrapment is making you do somethig you wouldnt otherwise do.
:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by HeyItsMe
perhaps its just me(it usually is), but i cant make any sense out of what you said.:(
dai*ma:stoned:
Check out the feet. If he's wearing a pair of shoes, or even if he's barefoot then he's probably ok. If he has cloven hooves instead of feet then get running. Also look out for a pair of horns on the head. Try and go for a bald hook up if you aren't sure. It's easier to spot.
whew !!:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheery Cherry
i make my own.
socks
underware
shirts
tank tops
etc etc..
I have a good story that i'd like to share with you.
I was walking down Howard Street, in San Francisco(where i live), and i was walking my dog when this lady came zooming down the sidewalk on her bike, almost hitting my Chihuahua..
Since we have great bike lanes for bikes in the city, i said to her.." there are bike lanes in the road"
She said.." do you see how the people drive on the roads?"
I said..." kinda of like people do with their bikes on the sidewalk?"
She turned around and said " Fuck you you fucking hippie"
As she rode away screaming at me for dressing like a "hippie", i thought..........." how strange is that?... a long haired "hippie"(my hair is waist length) telling another what the laws are in San Francisco when it comes to biking, and she shouts out, in San Francisco, Fuck you to a "hippie"
who happened to be reciting the "law"
now, thats bizzare.
dai*ma
tree huggin love makin pro choice and gay weddin
widespread diggin hippies like me
skin colored blinded
conspiracy minded
protesters of corporate greed:thumbsup:
yeah, horns on a person always makes me suspicious of them:dance:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignatius
peace,
dai*ma:stoned:
No... a cop who's deep undercover can pretty much do what-all he feels like in the name of busting potheads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheery Cherry
He has a large penis growing out of his forehead.
:thumbsup:
Wow...it really stinks that I have to go through so much trouble just to get some weed. It's a shame.
Hello dai*ma. How are you hon? You sound like an interesting person...hair down to his waist with tie dye underwear and socks? That's awesome! :thumbsup: And yes...some people are weird like the one that you described with the bike....*shaking my head*
i like to believe that i am an interesting person.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheery Cherry
I'm an alright guy...gee, i really am :dance:
I am doing fine. I had a few guitar lessons today, but they are now a part of my past. It sorta strange when you think about it. Parts of my past are now parts of anothers future. wowie.:o
peace,
dai*ma:stoned:
i have a ?
what do you call it when a banjo player has 3 women on his arm?
a new tatoo!!!
:dance:
what do you call a banjo player without a girlfriend?
homeless :dance: j/k, of course.
I believe they cannot actually smoke or do any drug, that wouldn't make sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkyattic
Unless it's 24...then you can do Heroin if you're a secret agent.
How to spot an undercover
1. Wearing a hat or a hood. Police always wear something that covers their forehead. This will prevent any emotion from being shown. (emotions can be most clearly recognized by looking at the eyebrow/forehead region)
2. They are wear a loose jacket or sweater that they are slightly pulling forward. Undercover cops keep all of their equipment in the front. They wear lose clothes and pull them slightly forward to prevent them from being seen.
3. They have a square back. Undercover cops are built. If you see some one with a square back that means they have large back muscles. *note* this can be a hard one to spot because another sighn that someone is undercover is that they never really turn their back to you. They are usually against a wall or somewhere where they wont miss anything.
4. Loose pants. they need to be able to run.
5. They are standing in the general area of someone else who fits the description. Cops have partners. Ive been stopped by cops who work in teams with up to three cops.
6. Gloves. Cops carry gloves. They dont always have to be on the hands but you can sometimes see them sticking out of their pocket.
good infoQuote:
Originally Posted by Brooklynkid
ok ya'll, look, ive gotten around the country quite a bit. i've learned for the most part how to just judge for myself and decide if i can trust the person not to snitch on me for sellin to them. for me its reverse of what ya'll r sayin. im the seller, not the buyer. and SEVERAL of ya'll stereo types are just fuckin stupid... some days im in pajama pants and a tank top, others im in dress pants n a button down shirt. it just depends on what else im doin right then. what it all comes down to is start off with small amounts and get to trust and know your connect. don't try for anything over say an 8th at a time for a couple weeks anyway. once ive got someone thats consistant then i'll let em get larger sacks but they gotta build up the trust.
I think it would depend on your state laws. I live in Oregon and less then an Oz on you is only a small ($300 ish) fine. I know lots of cops around our town and they feel it is not worth the effort for a min. crime. They are more likely to go after large sellers, not dime bag buyers at a local bar. May be different in your area, but I wouldent be worried about it.
usually they smell like shit
hah.. in NYC is a $100-200 fine for possession and a civil offense (decriminalized), yet they got full DT squads out there looking for people buying and sellingQuote:
Originally Posted by jtruckit
The same people and the same cars always seem to show up or be on the road when you are. Not hard to spot if you know what you're looking for and know their MOs. All in all, wasted money in my book. Time they got a real job. :D
guys, GET IT OUT OF YOUR HEAD, that cops CANT do certain things on the job. They are people too and will do whatever they want just like you do.
For instance, Chicago cops love to drink.