First Grow Log - 1000W, 12-plant SCROG **Pics**

Hey everyone, I put these pictures up in another thread, but I figured it would be better if I started a log.

First of all, let me start off by saying that all growing in these pictures is for medical use only and is in 100% accordance with state law. :rasta:

Here are some pics of the plants a week after we planted them. Let me just say that the growth has been incredible.

I'm going to start LST'ing soon in preparation for the screen, which we'll put up in a couple weeks.

All 12 of them are snocap!!

Any comments/questions/anythings are appreciated. I'll try and post pics up 1-2 times a week. LMK,

Dan K. :thumbsup:

I subscribed to your thread here, as I'm a ScroG fan, and just ordered a 1000-watt light myself. And hey, I like seeing cannabis grow!

One small suggestion, if I may: there's really no need to upload pictures THAT large in dimensions. If you could size them down to like 1024x768 or something before uploading them, I'm sure the low bandwidth people would appreciate it. Makes it easier for higher bandwidth people to view them without scrolling around with their browser too. Not a big deal, just thought I'd ask. ;)

Plants look very green and healthy! Can't wait to see them ScroG'd into a big, beautiful plain of buds!

A couple pics of the light/intake for the room. The last picture was taken the day they were planted:

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Originally Posted by jamstigator

I subscribed to your thread here, as I'm a ScroG fan, and just ordered a 1000-watt light myself. And hey, I like seeing cannabis grow!

One small suggestion, if I may: there's really no need to upload pictures THAT large in dimensions. If you could size them down to like 1024x768 or something before uploading them, I'm sure the low bandwidth people would appreciate it. Makes it easier for higher bandwidth people to view them without scrolling around with their browser too. Not a big deal, just thought I'd ask. ;)

Plants look very green and healthy! Can't wait to see them ScroG'd into a big, beautiful plain of buds!

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For sure man, I'll get on it!

I just hate cell phone camera pics or tiny little pictures where you don't get any detail or quality.

keep with the bigs pics dude....they are great for detail

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Originally Posted by WEED_UK

keep with the bigs pics dude....they are great for detail

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that's kinda how I felt too. I resized some of them to 800X600 and I'll post them all at that size from now on. Kinda like a nice happy medium.

Those fans look way too strong for that stage in the grow

really??

we keep them on low at all times, with one circulating air during the "night," then we turn them both to low to circulate more air to counter for the light heat during "day." Ventilation is really important in this room since its an attic, it keeps the temperatures down below 80+. But if that's detrimental to the plants, please LMK

No that seems ok, but some fans look monstorous, really don't want wind burn

those look really good for being as young as they are, im more and more thinking about getting like a 400 watt hps, mh light over my cfls.. growth is just disapointing compared to your pictures, yours will how outgrown my in over a week.. and mine are wayy too old for that..

lookin great though, keep on comin with the updates

wind burn plz do inform me

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Originally Posted by howsyourroof

wind burn plz do inform me

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me too, havnt heard of this as of yet, i have a big fan too..

He's saying that the wind is trying to smoke your plants before you can! :eek: AHHHHhhhhhhhh. :eek:

No, but seriously, I have not read about that anywhere, either. I would have to guess its a condition of the wind...ummm...burning your plants...lol. Kind of like how your face gets chapped in a stiff wind. I've read that the plant always maintains a layer of higher moisture (humidity) closest to the leaves. Maybe it (the wind) removes necessary moisture that the plant needs around it...and therefore, goes cripsy? Am I close?

:confused: :stoned: :D :dance:

TGF

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Originally Posted by TheGreenFog

No, but seriously, I have not read about that anywhere, either. I would have to guess its a condition of the wind...ummm...burning your plants...lol. Kind of like how your face gets chapped in a stiff wind. I've read that the plant always maintains a layer of higher moisture (humidity) closest to the leaves. Maybe it (the wind) removes necessary moisture that the plant needs around it...and therefore, goes cripsy? Am I close?

:confused: :stoned: :D :dance:

TGF

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Yeah what he said. When you use very powerful fans it actually has a very drying effect whereby the moisture is sucked off the plants, if you had those fans on maximum right next to your plants they would dry up and produce alot of resin on the leaves to protect themselves so some wind is good. You have to be very careful though because you can seriously damage a small plants delicate internal structures and leaves with excessive ventilation.

I've seen small plants that have literally had their blades on one side, blown to the other, its actually quite comical, you don't want it to happen.

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Originally Posted by MegaOctane12

Yeah what he said. When you use very powerful fans it actually has a very drying effect whereby the moisture is sucked off the plants, if you had those fans on maximum right next to your plants they would dry up and produce alot of resin on the leaves to protect themselves so some wind is good. You have to be very careful though because you can seriously damage a small plants delicate internal structures and leaves with excessive ventilation.

I've seen small plants that have literally had their blades on one side, blown to the other, its actually quite comical, you don't want it to happen.

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lol....thanks for the info....judging from your description though mine are fine.

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Originally Posted by gmoney5ss

those look really good for being as young as they are, im more and more thinking about getting like a 400 watt hps, mh light over my cfls.. growth is just disapointing compared to your pictures, yours will how outgrown my in over a week.. and mine are wayy too old for that..

lookin great though, keep on comin with the updates

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thanks man..this is my first grow, but I read that one of the advantages of an HID light was a short, compact plant, which is really what I need for my grow area. I have also slowly been introducing CO2 into the environment as well as VERY diluted nutrient solutions, so I would hope those have contributed too.

Finally, a picture of my favorite plant so far. Look at all that outward growth. Should I be doing any tucking/trimming of fan leaves yet, or should I save that on for later down the road??

that plant looks really nice :)

I wouldn't recommend scrog for 12 plants due to the fact that once the screen is on, its on. And getting around those plants are pretty hard when you only have one side to work with. I tryed scrog for 5 plants and only one side to work with, man it was hard to get all those growth up there. I believe you have a better chance at SOG with 1000watt and keep it growing, Its looking beautiful.

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Originally Posted by YASoob

I wouldn't recommend scrog for 12 plants due to the fact that once the screen is on, its on. And getting around those plants are pretty hard when you only have one side to work with. I tryed scrog for 5 plants and only one side to work with, man it was hard to get all those growth up there. I believe you have a better chance at SOG with 1000watt and keep it growing, Its looking beautiful.

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thanks for the heads up, I thought about that in advance though and I have pretty easy access to all the plants. I do agree that the ones against the wall in the middle are going to be difficult to train, but I do have enough room to gain access to the plants. Although now that I think about it, a SOG set-up would be a fair amount easier and allow for more harvests. I'll sleep on it and let you know

If you do decide to Scrog, grow the plants to a certain height and then switch over to 12/12 and then grow the stretch the screen. Don't bother growing into the screen throughout vegetative, all you will get is the plants crushing up together because they have been allowed to grow for so long. You'll have a tangled mess that's hard to rectify and it'll be harder to remove any males. Alot of people are under the impression that you shoud use the screen through vegetative, their wrong.

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Originally Posted by MegaOctane12

If you do decide to Scrog, grow the plants to a certain height and then switch over to 12/12 and then grow the stretch the screen. Don't bother growing into the screen throughout vegetative, all you will get is the plants crushing up together because they have been allowed to grow for so long. You'll have a tangled mess that's hard to rectify and it'll be harder to remove any males. Alot of people are under the impression that you shoud use the screen through vegetative, their wrong.

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thanks for the heads up, I've never done ScroG before so I appreciate all your help. I was actually thinking about maybe doing 6 plants as a ScroG and then the other 6 in a SoG set-up and compare the end results. If I decide to do this, I'll be switching over to 12/12 at the end of this week to hopefully get that takeoff in veg. growth. sound ok??

I was also thinking about ScroGing each plant with its own screen so they would be movable throughout the whole grow process, as opposed to using one giant screen. We'll see.

hey, a quick question -

my plants are showing pistils already as well as beginning to form trichromes on the leafs. I thought this was fine but my housemate said that it was a sign of accidental early flowering? I'm sorry if that's a newbie question, but I'm a newbie grower lol. :rasta:

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thanks for the heads up, I've never done ScroG before so I appreciate all your help. I was actually thinking about maybe doing 6 plants as a ScroG and then the other 6 in a SoG set-up and compare the end results. If I decide to do this, I'll be switching over to 12/12 at the end of this week to hopefully get that takeoff in veg. growth. sound ok??

I was also thinking about ScroGing each plant with its own screen so they would be movable throughout the whole grow process, as opposed to using one giant screen. We'll see.

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Yeah that sounds ok, I have no experience with SoGing however so I can't comment, but if you do what your just mentioned in ScroG then it should be fine. It takes a while and there's alot of different oppinions people have, like whether you should pull the stems back under the screen, or weave them throughout the holes. Personally I would say that its what you make it, so try it out and see. Good luck with it. p.s individual screens sound fine.

Alrighty, we have a couple new additions to the grow room:

the 1st one is Romulan, it's the weakest clone we got but that particular strain of romulan is so good that we thought it would be worth a try

the 2nd and 3rd are of a grape ape clone, much healthier

the last one is a goo clone, again a lot healthier

we also got a S.S.H. clone a couple days ago, I'll post pics of that later.

All the snocap are doing really well, about to go do some LST'ing, I'll post later

OK, here are some post-LST pics, as well as a couple shots of our new S.S.H. clone with all the others

LST FTW!

OK, I only have a couple pictures tonight, but I'll take more tomorrow and get back to you guys. Check these babies out:

:thumbsup: :pimp: :rasta: :weedpoke:

The 3rd pic is of where I topped, see all the new growth!

anyone have any comments? This is my first grow so feedback is super important for me. Thanks!

Update 11/28/06:

All of my plants are starting to really grow, I stopped LST'ing so there has finally been some upwards growth, we're looking at putting the screen on by friday -

Pics!

Enjoy,

Dan K.

Pics of light/intake:

Lastly, pics of the 4 (not so) little ones, S.S.H., Grape Ape, Romulan, and a rather droopy Goo. Rest assured, R/O water is on the way!

Lol, with 12 plants and a 1kw you sure you even need a scrog? 12 plants will take up a lot of room, especially if you veg them long enough to bend them much under the screen. Haha, but don't get me wrong, if you have room for it, do it, and I cannot wait to see the pics. I've been meaning to try a scrog myself, good luck man :rasta:

Oh, i didn't even notice, you started yours about the same time as mine :) Mine were just little girls back in the first part of october, and I started LST'ing too and they've grown into 20 headed monsters. I also have them under 1000 watts of light, the only thing is you started from clones and mine were from random bag seed. I really can't wait to see some bud shots of that screen just filled with dankness. Ever seen this grow log? http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=52326

Really nice Scr0g. Only 3 plants under a 400 watt hps and look at those buds. Just imagine what you're gonna get. :thumbsup:

Once again, I'm an asshole that doesn't read through posts thoroughly before posting. You already decided against the 12 plant scrog lol. If you're looking for any input, I personally found topping once at around the 4th-6th node then LST'ing works wonders without a screen. Plus, since the plants are tied only to their own pot, it makes them easy to move. But I like the scrog idea too....dunno, I'm still on my first grow as well.

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Originally Posted by Splifted

Once again, I'm an asshole that doesn't read through posts thoroughly before posting. You already decided against the 12 plant scrog lol. If you're looking for any input, I personally found topping once at around the 4th-6th node then LST'ing works wonders without a screen. Plus, since the plants are tied only to their own pot, it makes them easy to move. But I like the scrog idea too....dunno, I'm still on my first grow as well.

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hey, as far as the thread you gave me goes, I know that thread all too well as I modeled my feeding schedule exactly after his as well as my soil mix. LOL I am actually deciding to go through with the SCROG, I'm throwing up the screen on friday or saturday, this is my first grow as well so I have no idea how it's going to go, I'm excited to try though. I topped the main growths around then and it helped me get a much more even canopy, I'm not going to top anything else though. I'm not going to grow the 4 smaller plants in the screen though, I'll grow them on the side and just get a little less from them, they'll all be flowered at the same time, I'm thinking at the latest Christmas, at the earliest 2 weeks

BTW, in case I didn't make it clear enough, I now have 16 plants (4 late additions).

im so high.. realy lookin forward to seeing these things flower!! woo!!

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Originally Posted by Dan K.

I topped the main growths around then and it helped me get a much more even canopy, I'm not going to top anything else though. I'm not going to grow the 4 smaller plants in the screen though, I'll grow them on the side and just get a little less from them, they'll all be flowered at the same time, I'm thinking at the latest Christmas, at the earliest 2 weeks

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Yeah, i completely agree. We only topped one before low stress training them all. It grew the biggest main tops, but the others produced a lot more tops, but a lot smaller tops with a few big ones and weren't really all that even. Too bad it decided to hermi too. Oh well, I can deal with seeded bud lol, I only have 4 plants so i'm not about to toss out the two hermis. Plus they're not that bad of hermis.

We vegged for approximately 2.5 months (planted in the first part of September) and they have been flowering for 17 days (16 in these pics)

See the one on the left was topped, the one on the right was LST'ed then we FIM'ed all the new tops which resulted in a whole lot of little ones which aren't as even.

Sorry, not trying to bogart your thread, I'm just a little high and I feel like talking lol.:stoned: