Dag Nabet, I am going to give it a try!!!

The Vaportek Optimum 4000
Ok, Here I am again checking out this oder neutralizer and I look at this air purifier this way, this will be so nice compared to having loud fans and 25LB filters around. This thing is about as big as a box of serial and uses 16w.
Prices are $165 for unit, and approx $50 for a 90 day cartridge. I hope to use this to make things allot easier for my rooms, and I imagine for cabinet growers this would be a nice modification, many just put it in the same room that the cab is in, or and vent the smell into the room if they do need to use a fan to cool a light.
I think that I will order tomorrow if all go's well and let everyone know.
They use these things on crime scenes to rid the Oder of decomposing bodies and for building projects for rehab where the building has suffered from severe smoke damage, not to mention, hospitals and dog kennels just to name a few.

www.thegrowstore.com/
www.vaportek.com
Hear are a bunch of snips from people at IC Mag who are using this with their grows. I am not saying that this is the magic bullet, but I think that it has allot of potential. "I have a single VTek4000 in 1100sf house with more plants than anybody sane should have,and it covers the stink,101%.
Skeptics can be skeptics,but I can tell you,with about twenty years experience,that if you run sealed rooms,the VTek's the only way to go.
'Classic Neutral',imho,works best,and always get 120-day carts."

"I got one for my last grow to replace the ozone and it worked great. A setting of 4 was plenty to cover my 2000w grow (with some pretty smelly strains).
It produces a smell that covers up everything very well. The only drawback is the price of replacing cartridges, but in my opinion it's worth the cost.

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"VTek's kick ass,I have several carbon-scrubbers sitting,ROTTING,unused....
No sounds of turbines in my grows,just a nice silent lil' machine,making everything smell
like a hospital."

"I use the Vaportek 2600 which is the little wall mounted unit that uses the scented discs inside it. I mounted this on the wall right outside my flower
closet and have used 2 to 3 discs in it (it holds up to five discs). And you can't smell a thing outside of the closet. However, I will say that I am VERY
surprised that the odor of my plants (Reeferman's Blue Thunder and Rez's Apollo Mist) have hardly any odor at all even with the door open. Until you actually
touch them there is no real detectable odor from them. My vegging plants stink WAY more than my flowering plants. I guess I just expected more odors eminating
from the closet and I haven't had any at all."
"On carbon scrubbers:
They work,and work well.
However,they are LOUD as hell,and the more air you need to filter,the bigger and louder your fan gets....and no,it doesn't matter what kind of money you
drop on the
centrifugal fan,even the most expensive (and 'quietest') scream like jet planes.
We used to run a downtube off of the exhaust,and from 6">4" using a reducer.
This quieted the scrubber about 70% over unsilenced,but it decreased the efficiencey of the unit by approximately 25%.
The VTek's are,essentially,SILENT.
You can run them in-room,with no ill effects to the plants,or the buds."
"I run STINKEY shit,and 1-2 VTek's kill ALL the odor,and we're talking Sour Diesels and Skunks,no small feat...."
"it's dry vapor technology....
and it IS a neutraliser,not a 'mask'....
So.... if you kill your girlfriend,say,and she starts to smell,a few days of the VTek4000
will leave your basement just as fresh as before you cut her into pieces and tossed her in the river :D"
"Trust me guys, since I started using the VT 4000 I feel very safe. On my small grow I had it set on "1" and could not smell anything. I have it on "2" to
be safe. My cab is 4' X 6' X 7'(H). I have to touch the plants to get a smell. :wave:"
"Picked mine up last week. Another satisfied customer, believe me. I only have it set on 1.5 and it's doing its job!

$182 for the unit, one neutral cartridge and tax.

I dont even need the Carbon filter anymore. :joint:"
"i concur, this thing has really impressed me...i got it when the odor overwhelmed the small can fan we have...the smell is a little 'weird' but it definitely
doesn't smell like pot...i thought it smelled like bubblegum at first but now it just smells 'sanitized' in a piney way...it is the neutral cartridge..."

"The best part is the thing is practically silent. I mean you have to put your ear up against it to hear any noise at all."
"Joined the club. I set up mine a while ago. Damn that thing is powerful. I had it set at 1.5 and it was way too much for plants 2 weeks into flower. The
whole appartment smelled like some cleaning chemical (not a bad smell though). Now I got it on 0.5 and it is fine."

"In small grows of say 15 or less flowering plants in a small area, say no more than 5 x 7, they work great, no need for anything else. Beyond that, I'm
not sure, never used one in a bigger area or grow than what I mentioned....."
"I been using the 4000 since last spring, and it is awsome, except when I open my barn door the whole valley smells like it... not ganj..... but the neutralizer!
ANY odd smell brings attenttion!!! so i found it is best to use a smell similar to the area, and to carbon scrub the air ventting out, AND to only visit
the room around 3 am... smell = zero!! I just wish I had found those web sites to buy from rather than having to be grilled by the company over the phone...."

Bump, still need to get mine, but for those still looking for carbon filter alternatives.
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dude that's pretty cool, its so much easier than having to deal with carbon filters, let us know how that works for sure:jointsmile:

let us know how it works.....

hey bear ,
def. let us know . i just got another 20lbs. of pelletized coal based carbon . lol . p.i.t.a refilling filters . i def. noticed the scrubber craps out on us sooner now that i've been into buckets due to all the humidity being sucked into the carbon now . even w/ a good dehidifier . the 49.95 for a refill every 90 days w/ the v/o 4000 kinda sux tho but might be worth the convience .
your cuz
crispi

OK Bear...you're our man on this one..ANYTHING to quiet down the room. I really want to cut down on the noise polution in the room. I think the energy for the plants will be more peaceful and calming.
My philosophy is grow the plants in a way that lets them focus ALL their energy on producing cells and I think this will help.

Still the PaPa Bear....I love you - Jay

Thanks CJ, I feel you and Xcrispi, I will be putting in my order mid Jan and will let you guys know. I get tired of hearing my currant scrubber in my veg area and will look forward to having something like this and it just saves allot of room, electric and hassle.
CJ, I read a article a few months back on how different noises do play a role on the plants ability to grow. Believe it, hard rock music had a negative affect on plants because of the frequencies. The high frequency of most hard rock, metal to be specific, ended up stressing plants out because it caused them to have to protect their self from all of the high pitch sound waves as the plant interprets the vibration as something else in nature that is harmful to it's existents. But, Don't quote me I am just trying to remember the particulars.
Well love to you folks.
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damn bear ,
sounds like i coulda been pissin the girlz off instead of sereanading them . lol . guess nomore metallica , white zombie n pantera in the grow room huh ?

i've tried odor eliminator w/ the skunk on it and it's no match for the girlz . atleast not as a stand alone combatant so don't ever waste your $$$ tryin that route .
crispi

I would be interested in this if it's effective as well. A vortex fan, speed control, venting and carbon can is comparable in price if you go with name brands etc. anyway.

I priced out a 6 inch vortex at $149.90, 6 inch can filter at $115.00, speed control at $25, ducting/hardware another $20.. $309.90 total. Now I could cut that down to a 4 inch setup and reduce it $50 or so, but still comparable price to the Vaportek Optimum 4000 at $214.95.

You are exactly right with the math. Not only that, but the room you save and the noise level is cut way down.
One thing to remember is that with heat, a inline fan is great to cycle the air of a grow room, but a AC works for bigger grows as well.
Glad people are interested in this product, I think that it can make a big different if it can be as affective as it sounds at this point.
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great info!!

I may actually buy one very soon, as it's not going to be long before I could open my front door and someone could say "whats that smell", lol.

Interesting. Definitely let us know how that goes anyone who buys one. Somehow none of my plants really stink, and they are on like week 4.5 of flowering...maybe its just my nose, but I think they stank worse during veg. I'm sure that will change next time around when I sprout the AK-48s

I should be ordering this today, will keep everyone posted.
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Guess I will have to try tomorrow they are closed for the day.
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Mr. RHINO... I am digging your AV

THANKS Mr. Bear.. i look forward to your review

I placed my order today for the vaportek 4000 + neutral cartridge.

I was laying on my couch and every time my furnace kicked on, I smelled my garden quite strongly. It actually smells more in there than in the growroom, lol! oops! Not quite good! Especially since I just went into flower mode on dec 31st. Long way to go yet.

Perhaps needless to say I set it up for second day air delivery.

I think I'll be spraying every cleaning product I have on hand and really cleaning house until it arrives ;)

I just placed my order 1 minute ago. MisterE it will have a couple different settings, I would start off with the lowest and then dial it in from there. You shouldn't need to keep it on the highest. The neutral cartridge is what I got because it is more for neutralizing oders rather than just a fragrance that masks them.

Let us know what you think of yours.
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Yep, I've been reading some long long threads about the vaportek :) For my small area, 1 or 1.5 will probably do it. I have a small grow, so I bet it's way overkill, but I also rent.

Important for me to be able to go completely silent, lightless and odorless if some maintenance man needs to visit. Should be perfect.:D

TTT

bttt...

My vtek unit has arrived and is running. It makes the very slightest whirring sound that I can barely hear when I try. Until I rearrange my electrical in my grow room, it's running in an outer room on a setting of 1.

It smells nice and I'm sure I'll be able to tell a difference after it's been on for a while and I make my way in and out of my rooms throughout the day.

I should have mine today or tomorrow.
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I think you'll like it :)

I could not smell my grow at all today unless I was right in the room and actually sniffing the plants, lol.

That's what I am talking about. That is why I started this thread, hope more people give it a try.
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You could use an ozone generator,the small ones that mount on the wall.They neutralize odor's and convert to oxygen and co2.About 70 buck's outta pocket.2000 wat grow? That come to about a quarter bag.They don't just cover the smells! They go to the source and kill the odor.Seems to me smell is about your main concern.

Ga Grown!

I have herd more bad about ozones not working than anything else. Also, they are not recomended for use in close proximity to people in every day living quarters.
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hey bear , mister E ,
whats everybody think ? E you got it inside the growroom yet ?
my house is sooo fukd up right now even w/ new carbon in the scrubber . we have hardwood floors -n- smell comes right thru em w/o any padding or carpet on em . i'm very very interested .
peace guys
your cuz
crispi

Well I can tell you that yes I have had it in my grow room for a couple of days now and it really works amazingly well.

Last week at this time I was closing all the doors and running my HEPA air filter for several hours a day in the grow room in a vain attempt to contain the smell (and I'm only starting week 2 of flowering).

Now I can leave the doors wide open and the most I smell is a slight whiff of the neutral scent (which is pleasant smelling).

You know one thing you can also do is buy the cartridge by itself for $50 or so and simply open it ad get a breeze blowing over the top. It'll be full strength, but you'll sure get an idea of how it neutralizes the odors.

They even sell a unit which is a cartridge in a wire stand that you can place right inside air ducts. But again, no adjustments and it'll use itself up faster.

Sorry to ramble on like that, but I definitely give it 2 thumbs up!:pimp:

All is good on my end. I have 14 in the flower room right now 5 diferemt strains and with the unit not even half way up it has nocked out the smell.
I think that it is a worthy investment.
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crispi found the 4000 for 149.00 -n- 45.00 per refill .
i'm in same position you were in E . everytime the furnace kiks on ya get a face full of super funk . cofee cans of mothballs on front porch cause it even permeates the cinder block wall -n- smell it standing on the front porch . best hydro grow i've ever gotten off yet , Latewoods 3 pt. recipe kix ass . next time i'm following it to a T w/ the O.D. n b1 .
did you guys get the 4 month h.d refill ? or the 3 month ? takes 4 mos. to get a grow off but it really isn't that funky the first cpl. months .
peace
crispi

Wow thats great BlueBear! 14 in flower and it knocks it right out should be proof enough for sure :)

I got the standard size cartridge for $48.95 or so. I didnt price shop as much as location shopped, as extra-fast shipping was important to me. But again I wont grow more than 1 or 2 at a time, so I think I can get more than a few months out of it on a setting of 2. They have a shelf life too, so I'm not sure if buying a couple cart's up front is the best idea. Food for thought though.

I got the 90 day cartrage because I am a little low budget right now. I will go for the 120 day next round for sure. I may even pick up another one down the road for my veg room because the scrubber isn't too affective when I open the cab door. The veg room is closer to the front door and I have the Vaportech down stairs in the flower room with the door shut. I would put the device in the living room and it would just take care of both rooms, but I want that erea down there completely nutralised because it is right beside a fairly busy street.

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