Taking on a friends project (pics)

well turns out my friend who also gave growing atry for the first time has an apartment inspection tom., and i am given the task of taking on his plants..

first off i know he hasnt done much but water it and both plant were under 1 42w cfl
now i need some advice on what to do with them, the one in the bucket is obviously way too far down into the bucket, not really sure what to do about it, would it be alright to transplant?

both the plants seem to be lacking something, im not anywhere near being a pro so any adivce would be very helpful

now growing under 2 42watt, 1 30 watt cfls

hard to believe all 3 were planted at the same time, the smallest is mine which all of the roots were eaten while it was trying to grow so it was transplanted, only a week ago did it really start to grow.

You're a good friend for helping him out when he's in a bind. Are you permanently keeping them or just keeping them until is apartment inspection?

I'd love to give you some advice on what to do, but I'm just going through my first grow right now and still have a lot to learn.

Good luck though!

Real friends are hard to come by these days, I had a small growspace going already, just a bit of an upgrade..

i think im keeping the smaller one perm. and the bigger goes back in a week or two after things cool down over there. I plan on LSTing the smaller one just not sure of a time to start, or when to start flowering at that..

whether its the nutrient or plain simply bubbly water

oh yeah, just to add, do something with that bucket. fill it or transplant it.

you sound supper small according to space. if thats the case, flower at a foot.

im trying to lok for a friend like u to look after my plants aswell when im away!
looks to me like your plants need to be fed and looked after more closley, im only a few days into my first grow so i have no experience however i have researched on the internet a lot. more light may also help as they look like they are streching for light.
Gd luck m8 and hope this helps

yeah they were stretched because of my friend only having 1 42watt cfl.. he had it kinda far from the plant so thats why but ive already changed that with 3.. will be adding another maybe 2 soon. i need to get more soil into the bucket, but im afraid of hurting the plant, i dont want to shock it and im not sure exactly how to go about taking it out.. any transplanting tips would be helpful..

and again i appreciate everyones responses, but im lookin for someone who knows their plants well and know nutes well also so i can tend to these yellowing leaves.. as for nutes all i have at my house is fish emulsions 5-1-1, any ideas what nutes would help best would be appreciated..

ive also started LSTing the medium size plant today, we'll see how that goes.

sorry for the bump, but i need some advice and i dont want to start a new thread.. so bump

You dont need to be giving them anything right now. They arent asking for food yet, dont feed them. Thats probably why the leaves are yellow.

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I'd say repot, get some proper lights on them and a fan to thicken the stem.

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I agree with OrangeMan about feeding them. They don't need to be fed for the first threee weeks. I would just plant them deeper. The pic on the right looks like it could be buried up until the nice green spreading foliage on top. That will make your root system stronger and the plant will end up being shorter and it will spread out. Since you're using limited amount of light, you will need the plant to be short so the entire plant gets enough light. You can just add soil to the pot to those that are planted low and you can repot the other ones deeper that already have soil to the top.

thanks everyone for your help,

they havnt been fed anything but water up untill now. as for the bigger one i didnt something retarded and decided to top it.. but ill bury it up close to the tip tom instead of transplanting..

Do you think i should put the medium size plant into a 5 gal bucket? its in a fairly decent sized pot but my friend only does things half assed as you can tell and just threw one in a half filled bucket and left the other one in a pot i gave him..

as for the lights, i added another 42w which makes 152w, will be adding more as money comes into availability.. and a fan..

when i fill the bucket up to the tip is it going to be just like starting over? if so i was thinking of getting another bucket and kinda doing the same thing to the other one, planting it maybe half way down and filling it up..

thanks for all the help

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I think the rule of thumb is to not repot too often, but I've been messing and experimenting around with one plant, re-potting etc like mad, and nothing weird ever happened. Just be tender, especially with the roots.
Let the soil dry out first, easier to remove.

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I'd say repot, get some proper lights on them and a fan to thicken the stem.

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Or lightly, slightly and once again lightly bend it back and forward.

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Ooops, time to mist my adorable Top 44 clones...

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would it be best to turn it upside down while holding onto the base of the plant? im not too familiar with plant transplanting but ill be researching as i wait for replies just wanted to know if anyone had tips or things NOT to do when transplanting..

as for bending i think ill just stick to the fan for precaution.. also orangeman i sent u a request up on myspace

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would it be best to turn it upside down while holding onto the base of the plant? im not too familiar with plant transplanting but ill be researching as i wait for replies just wanted to know if anyone had tips or things NOT to do when transplanting..

as for bending i think ill just stick to the fan for precaution.. also orangeman i sent u a request up on myspace

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Exactly.
I would place the stem at it's thickest between my index and ring finger and palm the plant that way, maneuvering and tapping the pot lightly till it begins to loosen.

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The one that is planted real deep, maybe use a table spoon carefully around the edges first to loosen up, since you cant get your palm near the soil.

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Ooops, time to mist my adorable Top 44 clones...

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I wish I had some clones to mist :p.

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The one that is planted real deep, maybe use a table spoon carefully around the edges first to loosen up, since you cant get your palm near the soil.

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Ill give that a shot tom, thank you very much for yours and everyone else who responded.

ill be updating with pics when its done.

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post pics

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ive been a little busy the last few days, but tom, maybe the next day will be the day i do it..
Ive decided to not repot the biggest one that is in the bucket, main reason is its not mine i took on my friends project for him while he was going through inspection at his appt. I had planned on repotting both but instead he wants to be an asshole about some things so i decided that im not doing the work for him, if he doesnt want to do the research or listen to what i have to say about things than he can learn the hard way. Me on the other hand since im keeping the smaller one it will be repotted into a 5 gal bucket as soon as i pick up some potting soil..

one thing i need to know is what would be the best soil to use, i know that is a very common question, but yet again id like to hear it from someone whos had good experiences with certain types.. I plan on putting sand in the bottom and filling it 3/4s the way and planting it to make it alittle smaller..

heres some pics, not much new with the big one since i topped it (wish i wouldnt have).. i havnt noticed any growth sinceand starting to wonder if its going to produce 2 new shoots or not, takes time so ill be patient, just curious. the medium sized is comming along nicely and since im keeping it i have focused majority of the lights onto it and to my smallest, i plant on LST as soon as its put into the bucket.

leme know though on what would be the best soil to use.. thanks everyone!

pics in order are:
1) biggest plant (chopped the top off about 3 days ago, how long before new shoots come up?)(not mine)
2) medium sized plant ( the plant planned for the 5 gal bucket and LST)
3) my smallest plant (just as old as the other two, suffered from bugs eating the roots, only just now in the last week or so started comming back around)
4) my grow space

sorry, internets acting up.. heres the pics.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...5/IMG_1023.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...5/IMG_1022.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...5/IMG_1021.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...5/IMG_1024.jpg

I ended up taking the big one out of the picture all together for reasons stated above, i repotted the medium sized plant into a 5 gal bucket and buried it up to its first set of leaves to give it some more room. I put the smallest into the pot the other one came out of, heres the pics..

1) is this potting soil ok to use? i stayed away from MG potting soil and got some jungle grow or something..
2) just curious to why the leaves never seem to regain their color and constantly seem to be turning more yellow everytime i look at it (smaller plant) any adivce would be appreciated. leme know how im doing (more lights to come soon)

i dont know what you guys are looking at but those plants lack some serious Nitrogen use the nutes you have (5-1-1) use 1/4 of what is called per gallon give her a few days and see if new green growth comes in

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i dont know what you guys are looking at but those plants lack some serious Nitrogen use the nutes you have (5-1-1) use 1/4 of what is called per gallon give her a few days and see if new green growth comes in

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thank you so much for finally pointing this out, i knew that there had to be a problem i just want sure to what it was.. ill add 5-1-1 asap.. appreciate it.

Iv read if the tips get really yellow and crispy you have heat or nute problems..

but if the whole dam plant yellow your plant needs nutes? idk if this is right but its my impression!

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Iv read if the tips get really yellow and crispy you have heat or nute problems..

but if the whole dam plant yellow your plant needs nutes? idk if this is right but its my impression!

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Well after posting the pictures, no one really pointed out that there was a problem, but i knew it was something so i bought the fish emulsions.. im not really sure how much to add but i filled the bottom of a 14 oz spray bottle (bout an oz of 5-1-1 i guess didnt really try to be exact and just added water to the top) water was brown and smelled like it looked, hopefully that wasnt too much but since its organic i dont think it will burn.. im not too good on the nute process, might be the only thing i still have serious questions about, but none the less added that and we'll see how they react, if i dont get any reaction ill know to add more next time, vice versa, but since i already watered them after transplanting i hope i didnt overwater them this time.. only time will tell. thanks for the responses, i wonder why no one else pointed this out, could have been taken care of last week...