Americans and Other Getting Jipped?

I see on this forum, something very indifferent to what Im used to. Strands, names and brands of pot, that many people from South of the Border, and other countries seem to talk alot about. I was just wondering, does anyone else think dealers telling these people from these countries are getting jipped just because the bud they are buying has a certain name. Cause All I know is up here in Canada weed is weed, the prices are always the same per gram, even if you got Hydo, Indoor, or just outdoor, it all costs the same, From the organic to the clones, all pot costs the same. I just dont understand these price varyancies that I see in other threads coming from different countries. Don't you understand that your dealer is probally jacking up the price real high just because its good bud, when they could just be nice, and be like you know what ill sell you my good bud, at normal price. I just dont know how you could put up with it. If my dealer ever went ye this bud is good its called Purple Haze or Mawie Wauwie, I would say fuck off and give me a god damn bag of dope for the same fucking price as before.

That's why 99.9 % of all the bud I smoke is medical. It's dank, you know exactly what you're getting, and it even comes in a little brown baggie with a receipt with a smiley face stamped on it :).

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Originally Posted by couch-potato

That's why 99.9 % of all the bud I smoke is medical. It's dank, you know exactly what you're getting, and it even comes in a little brown baggie with a receipt with a smiley face stamped on it :).

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Thats fucking awesome, it must be a relief from the bullshit you probally have to go through with douche bag dealers that fucking try and rip you off using labels on there pot. Im angry about it and its non existent in my country, but your from Cali so most of the pot you probaly get is hydo from bc. or from medicinal stores. ye I have heard about all the stores sellin to people that dont even have problems. Live On Cali your fucking awesome

Well think of it this way. What your saying is that youd pay the same amount for a 1988 honda civic as you would for nice Cadillac or BMW just becuase thier both cars. As a dealer I would loose profits selling Chronic for the price of Mids because whoever the fuck I got it from charged me more for it. One day go smoke a bowl of some seedy outdoor schwag, then get some hydro chronic selectivly grown and monitered to perfection and smoke a bowl of that. Notice the differnce? I think the best comparison your gonna have is wine or champagne, except intsted of flavor your paying for a better, and nicer, high.

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Originally Posted by Frozen Sativa

Well think of it this way. What your saying is that youd pay the same amount for a 1988 honda civic as you would for nice Cadillac or BMW just becuase thier both cars. As a dealer I would loose profits selling Chronic for the price of Mids because whoever the fuck I got it from charged me more for it. One day go smoke a bowl of some seedy outdoor schwag, then get some hydro chronic selectivly grown and monitered to perfection and smoke a bowl of that. Notice the differnce? I think the best comparison your gonna have is wine or champagne, except intsted of flavor your paying for a better, and nicer, high.

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Its very true...to an extent. I mean white widow and AK mixed is much better than stuff you will find on your hillside which has more hemp qualities than cannabis. It is true to an extent on both sides

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Originally Posted by Frozen Sativa

Well think of it this way. What your saying is that youd pay the same amount for a 1988 honda civic as you would for nice Cadillac or BMW just becuase thier both cars. As a dealer I would loose profits selling Chronic for the price of Mids because whoever the fuck I got it from charged me more for it. One day go smoke a bowl of some seedy outdoor schwag, then get some hydro chronic selectivly grown and monitered to perfection and smoke a bowl of that. Notice the differnce? I think the best comparison your gonna have is wine or champagne, except intsted of flavor your paying for a better, and nicer, high.

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Ye but what Im saying is your dealers are douche bags. The ones up here buy all chron at the same price, therefore all weed is sold at same price, except for the occasion extra $5 just added because some dealers just charge more. So in Canada it wouldn't matter if it was white rhino or just plain outdoor its gunna cost the same,c ause costumers up here wont put up with the bull shit that happens elsewhere. And your laws are harsher so dealing is more risky, meaning there shoudl be higher returns, high risk high returns. Where I come from its not as harsh, so the dealers dont care, they just wanna make some kind of money, and the risk is not as high, so therefore the return is not as high. As well we have more dealers up here, and a Higher demand, therefore decreasing the price regardless of quality, just because costumers have the power to say "Fine , Ill go buy off _______ or ________ or ________ or __________ or __________ or _______ or _________ or _________ or _________.....etc at a lower price" So its actually pretty sick, the costumers control the dealers.

Also your car comparison is not so strong because weed is totally diferent from cars, all weed is pretty much grown the same, it will cost the same amount to hydroponically grow some Purple haze as it would to grow some I dont know Ultra Dank,. A 1988 honda civic, is old used and beat up, and the materials used to make it are way more different then from a new BMW. Growing chron with equipment or no equipment essential gives you the same chron if its from the same seed, this also depends on climate. Most of weed is grown indoors in canada, so the cost is pretty much the same. Where you live your energy for indoor plants may cost more to make causing the price to go up, so outdoor weed is considered cheap. You also have to add int he availibility, in Canada weed is more availible then probally most of the states just because of our laws and the percentage of users is higher because of that, therefore granting the prices to decrease due to excess of dealers and users.

As well based on what I have observed from other posters it seems that maybe your weed is more chemically enhanced then ares, where ours is morenaturally grown(not saying that shit isn't added cause it is) but maybe your dealers are just there for profit and know that since there aren't alot of other dealers they can fiddle with the prices.

if you were the only burger joint owner in your area, dont you think you could price your burgers at anuy one you want?

As well your reference to the outdoor and hydro up here both cost the same, so of course there is more of the hydro because everyone would rather buy that, and since so many people buy weed up here the price has dropped to that of outdoor pot, therefore maiking no difference between the two

its like... you know u cant really buy 80 years old french wine for 10$... its the same logic.. quality things cost

Well im very happy for you, you have it good when the only weed you can buy is chronic, it sells for a reasonable price, no one gives a shit, and your country isnt the fucking playground bully who your ashamed to be associated with. Iv thaught I might want to live in vancouver one day acutally, but maybe ill get some Medicinal cali love one day....

You should watch the movie Grandmas Boy. The main character is like you.

Dante: "So what kind of weed do you want? I got the Incredible Hulk, I got some of the green monster, I got the bling."
Alex: "Hey! We go through this every time I come here. I don't care what it's called. I just want a bag of fucking weed."
Dante: "Whoa. Chill, bro. You know you can't raise your voice like that when the lion's here."

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Originally Posted by rottenPauL

its like... you know u cant really buy 80 years old french wine for 10$... its the same logic.. quality things cost

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Again what Im saying is this is only true in your area, dont you think it would be better if it didnt' matter what type of bud you were getting it all costs the same? Dont you wisht hat your dealers wouldn't be such douche bags and charge you the same for everythign? Cuase up here if I want a gram of hydro its $10 if I want a gram of shake its $10 doesnt matter. its actually kinda funny cause you all have good examples but for some reason up here those rules are totally disregarded. Its like all cars costing the same just because so many people buy cars and there are so many car dealers, that the prices have all leveled to the same due to the popularity of it. Since not alot of people can afford cars that was a bad example.

I live on a state that borders canada too...so close! If mom and dad had only migrated further north....

lol then maybe you should talk to the growers and dealers in canada who charge different prices for what they have too.

Its a money market. Quality sells. Its as simple as that. It'd be awesome if the laws werent so harsh in the usa, that way more ppl could grow, more med clubs etc.. but u know what... the govt is so immersed in the drug war, so much has been funnelled into it.. its not going to change.. not for a VERY VERY long time, if ever. The only recourse is for states to make it legal, and with enough then maybe the feds will realize that hey... maybe if the people in those states are saying Weed is ok......

no Dusan coz where i live pot is illegal. When my dealer goes through hell to get some dank weed, I dont expect him to sell it in a regular price. I mean i wish i could get it alwayz in a standard price. Even if told my dealer "Fuck you" i bet he would say "Fuck u back" coz there r like 50 other people that would buy the same pot even in bigger price. But I really dont mind coz i pay for great weed usually for less than 10 euros per gram.... and bad quality weed costs like 2 or 3 euros. I pay by the quality i buy. And i would never give 10$ for a bag of shake

I think it will be the other way around. Your closer to it than we are, so youd get there first and show 'US' (;) ) how well it works

Dealing is very dangerous outside Canada, with real penalties. Not many dealers will take this risk just to make no money, as good as that may sound.

And if I pissed in your bag I dont think you would buy it for the same price as the rest. Higher grade stuff you will pay out the ass for. And sence when was there a price list on weed. Its the black market people can do as they please. If you buy the bag then you wanted it. Some people don't got it as good as you claim. So enjoy - No flaming intended.

lol even in holland, the super quality strains like super silver haze, blueberry haze, matanuska tundra and so many others i cant recall right now, r sold in coffeeshops (if they have any like that) in prices like 13 to 15 euros and not 5, 6euros like bubblegum, white widow, durban poison and so on :D

I'm never really concerned with strain names or anything when I'm buying. Most dealers I know will let you sample their bud before you buy it and if you like it, you pay him for the sack, and if you don't like it, then really its no big deal. You just tell them it wasn't your thing and you'll call them at a later time to see if they got anything new.

I'm pretty sure a good amount of the time that dealers are advertising their weed by a "name brand" of sorts, it's probably some B.S.

Just smoke your nugs and love it! Stay safe too!

I've traveled the world and I have noticed two facts about â??The Statesâ?� compared to other* nations.

1. America is the land of rampant, over the top, drug use.

2. America is the land of rampant, over the top, drug prohibition.

Nobody else puts the time, money, or tenacity as us to chemically alter our minds. If it can be smoked, snorted, huffed, injected, or digested we will do it.

At the same time we are by far the most willing to submit to a police state in which overly harsh draconian laws put a greater percentage of our countrymen in jail than any other developed nation.

Naturally, this has created a sophisticated and complex black market where a wide variety of intoxicants await the consumer. Who in turn, must be shrewd and a careful bargainer.

Combine this with Americaâ??s natural love of the free market system and abundance and it only makes sense that we would expect a variety of products and prices.




*For the sake of this post I will only compare Western Democracies. It makes no sense to compare the USAâ??s drug enforcement to nations like (PRC) China where 5g of cocaine warrants execution. Or India, where cannabis grows wild everywhere but nobody uses it.

Yea, where in canada are you? Im in toronto, and my buddy grows well and he buys diffrent strain seeds.

My other dealer sold me some stuff he killed like great white shark, which ive heard is great, but i only payed 12 bucks canadian, instead of 9 or 10 canadian like i normally do. It ended up being prettymuch the same thing that he sold me last week. LUI.

Weed must be real cheap up here in canada? I pay o average 30 bucks for 3 grams for a week. thats like 25 bucks american maybe, maybe cheaper.

[QUOTE=DusanTafari;1025216Cause All I know is up here in Canada weed is weed, the prices are always the same per gram, [/QUOTE]
same here bro!, finally someone with the same deal going!

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Originally Posted by couch-potato

That's why 99.9 % of all the bud I smoke is medical. It's dank, you know exactly what you're getting, and it even comes in a little brown baggie with a receipt with a smiley face stamped on it :).

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Exactly!! Nothing like buying weed that comes with a label. "For medicinal use only. Not for Resale" LOL

I know what Dusan is saying though. Weed down here in the San Francisco area is expensive. We pretty much only get dank, chronic, or whatever you want to call it and prices are anywhere from $45-60 an 1/8th. But that has to do more with supply/demand and the fact that everything else around here is more expensive too. Prices are different in different areas, no doubt about it. And, prices for some high quality organic grown chronic will, and should be, higher than for schwagg. But I don't think that's what Dusan is talking about.

It's the whole strain-name game that a lot of dealers on the street have seized on to make a few extra bucks. I buy medical and, yes, there is a difference in the prices of the various strains. But it's only $10 or so more per 1/8th for something really special. And, because it's medical you can trust the source. I'm always seeing posts on here though that say something like "I normally pay $30 for an 1/8th of dank but my dealer says he has white rhino for $80, should I buy it?" . Chances are it's probably not really white rhino and not much better than the dank he usually has. Unless you're comparing the prices of shitty Mexican brown to some great chronic the prices shouldn't be doubled or more.

Unless your dealer routinely has different strains, and you know from experience that a higher price strain will be better, beware of anyone who suddenly claims to have "Puprle Haze", "White Widow", etc etc. And, never, never pay more than 20-25% more for different weed in the same catagory (catagory meaning schwagg, mids, chronic, etc)

in reality cannabis should cost like 3.50 per pound..... cause just like from that brochure on canna dot com main page one ton of it cost 15$ in like 1913 or some shit like that
the only reason cannabis is even popular is because of cannabis prohibition.
i would say more but its my responcibility not to blow the lid on how prohibition is going to end.

That's like saying, don't you think all gold should cost the same, whether it's 10k or 24k? Why would 5 percent THC pot cost the same as 22 percent THC pot? Doesn't the good stuff last longer than the bad stuff? (More highs per ounce.)

If you can get 40 quality highs from bag A and 200 quality highs from bag B, doesn't it make sense that bag B costs more?

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Originally Posted by jamstigator

That's like saying, don't you think all gold should cost the same, whether it's 10k or 24k? Why would 5 percent THC pot cost the same as 22 percent THC pot? Doesn't the good stuff last longer than the bad stuff? (More highs per ounce.)

If you can get 40 quality highs from bag A and 200 quality highs from bag B, doesn't it make sense that bag B costs more?

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Excellent point jams, and one that a lot of people have trouble with. But the problem is dealers who charge double for 22% THC than they do for 20% simply because it has a name. Or, even worse, dealers who have no idea what the strain is and just give it a name to get a higher price.

I hear ya, shady lying over-greedy dealers suck. They're somewhat self-regulating though: once word gets out that they're dishonest, their clientele moves on to someone with a better reputation. And once you find an honest dealer, you tend to stop looking for others except as emergency backups.

I've had the same dealer for 17ish years now. I don't actually buy from him anymore, as I supply myself. I do let him get some of my excess though, which is always a 'name brand' strain. Of course, I'm taking the word of the seedbanks that when I order a strain, that's actually what I end up getting. And my dealer friend is taking my word that when I hand him a QP or whatever of a specific strain, that it actually IS that strain. But we've known each other long enough that there is trust between us.

He does charge what the market will bear (to an extent anyway), but I don't blame him for that, and his customers are always very happy when I've dumped a load on him, because high quality stuff, named or not, is just super rare around here, and rarity adds to the price. Most of his customers buy his mids, then every couple months they get the opportunity to have a very high quality named treat, thanks to me. That high quality stuff is so rare around here that even when I drop him off a QP, he won't LET anyone buy more than a quarter ounce, maybe a half ounce tops, even if they throw piles of money at him, because then fewer people would be able to smoke the good stuff, and his customers are pretty much all friends too. He's the best, coolest, most honest dealer I've ever known, which is why his customers have remained his customers for decades. I let him get whatever I have excess of, for $200/ounce (no quantity discounts). He could sell it for more than $400/ounce, but because I'm nice with my price, he's nice to his customers too, and doesn't try to gouge too hard. So everyone is happy, me, him, and his customers.

That's really the ticket: find a good, honest dealer and latch onto him forever. ;)