The definition of Love

Hello everyone, how are you all.

I am severly depressed and lost in the world, and I wish I could die in my sleep.

Anyways, enough about me, and more to the point of this wholly revealing and enlightening thread.

The most asked question in the enire history of question asking has to be "what is the defintion of 'Love?'.

Well, I believe that I have the definitive answer to that very enquiry.

Put quite simply, it is "an unconditional acceptance of..."

Please discuss this and debate whether I am right or, as in a few cases that have been recorded, wrong.

As I am still offline and destitute, I will only be able to pop in periodically to add comment and stuff.


Now all I have to do is discover the meaning of life, so i must away to think.....



Res...

I think you've got it there mate. The UNCONDITIONAL acceptance.

Dont be wishing stuff like that though man, its not cool to want to die.

What ever you think is wrong with you, take a look at all the homeless people, all the people dying in war, the little children who have no family's because of aids.

yehman depressions a bitch but most of the time it gets better, i've suffered from psychosis in the past year or so and 6 months ago i felt like killing myself, these days i can smoke weed occassionally and dnt feel unhappy all the time, like i said, it gets better

lol Lip, no, it's not cool to wish that, but I guess its how I deal with stuff
My view of life is with tongue firmly in cheek ;p

Cool, at least it seems I'm on the right track with the 'Love' thing

Any ideas on the 'Life' thing?

Res...

Oh no!
Don't turn this thread into a "gee up Res" session (although I appreciate your concerns and stuff) lmao

My sense of humour is often mistaken as something else...indeed, it could be said that my sense of humour is something else...but it isn't THAT something else lol...its just wierd and often so abstract as to be opposite...or something...

There was a person, once...a female...that enabled me to arrive at that definition...but I guess that even that isn't enough for some people...

Ho hum, the incongruences of life, and all that bunkum

Res...

The meaning of life is one i dont think anyone will ever know. Or maybe there simply isnt one?

Maybe there is no point what so ever to life.

Well, sometimes there doesn't seem to be any point.

I used to think that the meaning of life was to understand oneself and the world about us, to live by a certain code (much like the 10 commandments), and to help our fellow man. But, as we can all see on a daily basis, it seems that there are those of us that think otherwise - wars, murders, abuse, etc.

So, we can only answer the question in relation to ourselves, because the 'meaning' is different from person to person. If we can understand the 'meaning' on a galaxial, or universal viewpoint, then that would be cool.

I'm a bit stoned, it should be said, and this is the first time that I have been on here for what seems lke an eternity, therefore I am in danger of just rambling on and on about nothingin particular...much like I'm doing now...

I'll get my coat..

Res...

i dont necessarily agree......i love my dad but i do NOOOOT have UNCODITIONAL REGARD for him bc hes a fuckin nazi

as for you mood......
your probly at an age (17-21) when if you have a personality/mood disorder....it will come out......its got to do with "growing up"......
i went through that craze this summer.......
i just started "realizing" everything about everything and it made me very unhappy and anxious and all i could do was cry and freaK out at people.....i started getting the worst case of the HIVES from stress (everyday)....thats when i went to patient first......who referred me to a psychiatrist....
now im better but i still have excess anxiety and get hives but atleast i have xanax to chill me out when i need it........go to a doc...
i think depression mostly has to do with HOW you percieve events/conditions...i know its hard to control it......but its really important to surround yourself with the most POSITIVITY possible...

happy up beat music, candy, and starbux fraps are my compulsions (when im unhappy/stressed...these things instantly make me happy overconsuming my negative thought patterns....even if its for the time being.....like a little kid:).....)try to find shit you LOVE to have at times like this.....just dont become OCD...

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Originally Posted by royalHIGHness

as for you mood......
your probly at an age (17-21) when if you have a personality/mood disorder....it will come out......its got to do with "growing up"......
i went through that craze this summer.......
i just started "realizing" everything about everything and it made me very unhappy and anxious and all i could do was cry and freaK out at people.....i started getting the worst case of the HIVES from stress (everyday)....thats when i went to patient first......who referred me to a psychiatrist....
now im better but i still have excess anxiety and get hives but atleast i have xanax to chill me out when i need it........go to a doc...
i think depression mostly has to do with HOW you percieve events/conditions...i know its hard to control it......but its really important to surround yourself with the most POSITIVITY possible...

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Is that true? it would explain alot going on in my head right now. Life's tough but giving up is just too easy.
I do believe love is unconditional. I'm not finding alot of that kind of love being spread around alot which is why I only have a few friends which I love and will do anything for them.
When I'm depressed I try to push out my negative thoughts with something I'm good at or something I like. You should seriously try that, don't give up yet. Like I said, giving up is just way to easy. Things do get better eventually.

The answer to life and eveything is: 42. :) Cheers

long time res...

im sad to hear how ur feelin, cheer up, ifu think life aint worth living your wrong, cos it is. Theres nothing worst then wasted talent.

Love is.... 2 Souls Moonwalking on the moon

I think depression occurs among most of high intelligence.. Its just about being young and learning to get over it. We get used to anything..

Love is just something you get SO used to, after a while, that you just can't imagine yourself going on without it. We all love marijuana, but when its a person its just love on a much higher scale (no pun intended) depending on age and experience (both in quality and quantity)

the only purpose of life I've learned is just to enjoy it because life is short, live in the now, instead of the future, or the past, take things for what they are, and ride it until the wheels fall off, make mistakes and make memories

its tough as shit, I know, but negative thoughts only bring negative results

weeds tought me lots

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Originally Posted by royalHIGHness

as for you mood......
your probly at an age (17-21) when if you have a personality/mood disorder....it will come out......its got to do with "growing up"......
i went through that craze this summer.......
i just started "realizing" everything about everything and it made me very unhappy and anxious and all i could do was cry and freaK out at people.....i started getting the worst case of the HIVES from stress (everyday)....thats when i went to patient first......who referred me to a psychiatrist....
now im better but i still have excess anxiety and get hives but atleast i have xanax to chill me out when i need it........go to a doc...
i think depression mostly has to do with HOW you percieve events/conditions...i know its hard to control it......but its really important to surround yourself with the most POSITIVITY possible...

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Wow.
Given the right person at the right time, i can really see this paragraph saving someone from suicide. I've been there too...often still here... and even more often i think that I am going to be this way my whole life... but there are ways around this nasty part of the nature of our minds.

To the original statement... I'd say you got it figured out, only i wouldn't use the word "acceptance". You are right about it being "unconditional"... I think i'm in love, and i would use the word....ummm... im really high... i cant think of A word at the moment but it should portray a more 'caring' aspect.
just my 2 cents
God is love.

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Originally Posted by RESiNATE

Any ideas on the 'Life' thing?

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Life IS Love
They are partners - - bonded for eternity. If you lose sight of one, don't be discouraged; they don't ever leave, no matter how you're feeling. Mentally, though, you have to realize this, even if it takes some time. Take care and believe in love, in life, and all that's inbetween.

The meaning to life is probably as vague as anything, but when one discovers their own meaning or purpose, life suddenly seems a lot more loving, and thus how the two concepts of 'life' and 'love' are never too far away - - and neither are we. If you're feeling down, I'm sure myself and others here would be glad to listen, if you feel the need. So make the myths and take care res... ~

Love is acceptance...you got it. On the issue of depression, I find myself strangely attracted to my distorted and instantaneous thoughts. I do not lament the ever so destructive text flowing back and forth in my mind, I embrace them. It's called an obsession.

Not many advise the identification with these thoughts, infact it's the reciprocal with everyone. "Ignore them", "Silence your mind"...I'm afraid to honestly. What else is there if not destructive thought?

destructive thought is just that......destructive thought.....
do you wanna live a life led by it?.....no.....
you gotta think of shit that is NOT depressing.....because its true....one negative thought attracts another negative thought and another negative thought until your just a ball of negativity............
thats why you gotta overcome that bitch called life and prove that your better/stronger and you can handle whatever bullshit comes your way....

I think the point of life is to love and be loved. And I believe that love is acceptance and abiding affection with countless different degrees.

One thing I don't buy is the idea of unconditional love. It sounds marvelous as a concept: absolute, abiding love. But people forget that love is generally conditional. Spouses and lovers love on the conditions of affection, fidelity, kindness and honesty from their partners. Children love when they're loved in return and treated well. When they're not, they often learn hate and resentment instead. Nearly all the types of love I can think of have conditions of some kind attached, and I think lots of people forget that fact. Seems to me conditional love is, in many ways, much more critical to our existence.

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Originally Posted by birdgirl73

I think the point of life is to love and be loved. And I believe that love is acceptance and abiding affection with countless different degrees.

One thing I don't buy is the idea of unconditional love. It sounds marvelous as a concept: absolute, abiding love. But people forget that love is generally conditional. Spouses and lovers love on the conditions of affection, fidelity, kindness and honesty from their partners. Children love when they're loved in return and treated well. When they're not, they often learn hate and resentment instead. Nearly all the types of love I can think of have conditions of some kind attached, and I think lots of people forget that fact. Seems to me conditional love is, in many ways, much more critical to our existence.

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Always looking forward to what you have to say on touchy topics like these. You give such good insight. You say things I'd never think of. :o

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Originally Posted by crudemood

Always looking forward to what you have to say on touchy topics like these. You give such good insight. You say things I'd never think of. :o

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Thanks, Crudemood. I appreciate your kind words. I think I sometimes have slightly different insights because I'm older. But then there are those days when I have no insights at all. Seem to be having more and more of those days.

I enjoy your posts, too! Take care.

In my experience, Love is just another thing that ppl use to hurt u... u trust someone then they just end up betraying that trust.

yea life can always get beetter

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Originally Posted by NightProwler

yea life can always get beetter

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if u say so

The unexamined life is not worth living. One love.

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Originally Posted by Its a Plant

Life IS Love
They are partners - - bonded for eternity. If you lose sight of one, don't be discouraged; they don't ever leave, no matter how you're feeling. Mentally, though, you have to realize this, even if it takes some time. Take care and believe in love, in life, and all that's inbetween.

The meaning to life is probably as vague as anything, but when one discovers their own meaning or purpose, life suddenly seems a lot more loving, and thus how the two concepts of 'life' and 'love' are never too far away - - and neither are we. If you're feeling down, I'm sure myself and others here would be glad to listen, if you feel the need. So make the myths and take care res... ~

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Plant! :thumbsup:
I am all over this post like a bad rash!
LoVE! is YOU!

Some people have been saying (and I apologise for missing names, but I only have limited access and time here), that most love comes with 'conditions'. Isn't it then fair to assume that the 'love' isn't true?

And, please let me defend my earlier words.

Yes, I am fairly depressed at the moment, but it is a long story as to why i am feeling this way.
However, i am NOT about to end it all yet...much to the annoyance of some people, no doubt...as i have far to much equal and opposite joy too.

You see, I see life as a balance of emotions, experience, and sharing.
Indeed, it is a funamental law of physics that all forces (effective and psychotic) are equal and opposite. Therefore, i am totally at ease with my depression (kinda) because i believe that this current state of mind is a ballance for the 'good times' that I have already experienced, and have yet to experience.
Some people might call it Karma, others might call it something else.

I have looked within myself and have laid myself bare...I have seen the good in me, and I have seen the bad..and I accept it all, because it is who I am.

I am at ease with my darkness. So much so thatI could almost say that I enjoy my darkness as much as i enjoy my lightness.

There aren't many folks who have the courage to examine themselves to a critical level...I have, because I've had to - as a matter of survival.
It wasn't as pretty as i thought it might've been...but I accept it.

This, I believe, is something towards the so-called 'meaning of life'.
When we, as a global community, can accept ourselves for who and what we are. maybe we can work towards moving to the next step...(?)

But, good input from all..lol

And for the record (lol) I am not between the age of 17-23...I well past those glory days hehehe....well, anatomically speaking.

Res...

just my personal oppinion, but i think love doesnt exist, ad if it did, it died out a long ass time ago.
basically what i think love is nowadays is simply a mixture of affection, attraction, and hate

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Originally Posted by MastaChronic

just my personal oppinion, but i think love doesnt exist, ad if it did, it died out a long ass time ago.
basically what i think love is nowadays is simply a mixture of affection, attraction, and hate

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I know where you're coming from, and I think its sad. I've throughly questioned the existence of love myself, but its hard to still see because its become devalued in society, people would rather trade it for something more material, something that confers some status or at least a sense of warmth. Love exists, but it isn't always a gentle kiss and a storybook ending. Love is ups and downs and the whole gambit of life itself. To paraphrase others who have already spoken, love and life are the same, when you're doing it right. With both of them part of the magic is the part we can't quite put our finger on...

I guess that, as it was said in "The Matrix", 'Love' is just a word...it depends on what that word means to you.

Unconitional love is a rarity, and this is due mainly to the fact that we, as a species, have been distracted to what life is all about.
The world that we live in today is built around commercialism and possession.
We tend to measure a person's success by the amount of wealth they have accrued.
The arguements i have had with various people about my motivation in life are numerous.

Moreover, with this revelation in mind, i fear that 'world peace and harmony' can never be achieved.

The basic motivation behind most peoples actions can be summed up in one phrase - "what's in it for me?"

You could apply it to many of our decisions - if you're really honest about it.

If 'love' is an unconditional acceptance, then how many of us can truely say that they love someone?
I am willing to bet that most of us would say - "I love that person...except I wish they didn't..." do this or that.

When I was asked about this particular woman "how do you know that she is the one?", I answered, "because there is nothing about her that I find unacceptable"...hence my conclusion.

Res...

Oh, and thanks for that PLANT.

It is these little things, such as yours and others kind words and understanding, that gives me pause to think about the downfall of humanity.

It is, as I always say, a necessary equation.

I accept the bad in the world, because I know in my heart that there is an equal amount of good...its just that sometimes the equation takes a little time to balance out

:-)

Res..

If you stripp mankind of all his ipods and computers. Erase all human history back about 10 000 years. And you have the meaning of life as life was then. To not be eaten by something with big teeth and huge claws.And to find food and pass on your genes to your childeren. I belive that this strategy still lives on in every humanbeing. But in this modern society where you buy your food in stores and wear clothes bought in stores. Watching telly and playing with your ps,the fundamental meaning with life is lost. We have no need to hunt for food and skins to keep us warm. Sex is comersial and we do it for all other reason than bringing a new life to the world. everyone is seeking the mening of life. The meaning of life to day is to make the best of life. To be alive and well. To do the things you wan't to do and make friends. This thoug is just my meaning about the meaning of life. You have to make up your own mind about theese things cause we all have different meanings about whats important in life. Cheers!!!

Good words, Esmada!

Although, I disagree about the sex thing.

Sex is a good thing (when between consenting adults, blah blah blah).
It is an activity that, when done right, beats the heck out of any other kind of emotional and physical and psychological high. It is the moment when our body and mind meld in perfect harmony.
But, sex is different to making love. Sex is the more 'basic instinct' side of things, whereas making love is a deeper emotion.

Ummm.
I just realised that I'm very stoned and have totally lost my thread...

No, it's gone.

But...err...I tell ya, the weather here is not bad.

Res...

Life and love and pain and death.

Kinda like a circle. You find yourself down and out, when all of a sudden it comes swinging right back around to you. When you stop worrying and just let it be, it all seems to come so much more quickly...


...:smokin: