Salvia Divinorum- a nice change of pace

TO MODS- READ THIS THREAD BEFORE DECIDING TO NUKE IT. i believe that salvia can be used as a complement to weed, just as tobacco can be used in joints. it is completely legal and should not fall under the "forbidden topics" category

For those of you that have been smoking for a long time without a break and are starting to get bored with it, try some salvia. then take a break from weed, the salvia will kinda make you want to stay sober for a while anyways.


So im with some experienced drug users, just weed for me. we get some 25x salvia from the smokeshop, they had never tried it before either. We go up a burm off road and get out of the car. we each take one hit (i got a shitty hit and don't really remember what happened except that i was really confused for a long time. they got a pretty good dose. Later that night a few hours ago i went to a parking lot with one of the guys. I take one big hit, and start counting. after about 12 seconds i realize that i no longer understand numbers. My vision and everything, feeling, my reality just split up into thousands of pieces, i was seeing through a piece of broken glass, then i was taken out of my life. It was a total out of body experience, like i was viewing a hundreds of tv's, each with a person and a life in it, flying over them all trying to find MY life. I also remember this scene: all the dancing forks and plates and furniture from the Beauty and the Beast, all singing. I was trying to get away from the candle. I eventually found my life out of the earth's population and snapped back into it. Sort of. Imagine the feeling 10 seconds BEFORE you wake up from a dream when you are trying to piece everything together from the dream, but nothing fits.. This is what you feel for the next few minutes after the trip. I have never felt more confused in my life, my feeble brain felt so helpless, so insufficient to comprehend and disect what just happened. All i wanted to do was sit somewhere and put a hat over my eyes and think. . . Smoke in a small group, just one or 2 other people.

And make sure it is NOT a "let's get fucked up tonight" situation. Make sure everyone is relaxed and well aware of what will happen. Do it one at at time and DON'T try to talk to or annoy the person that is tripping. just let them sit. if you are like i was i just wished i could go in a dark room afterwords.

Something i found is that when you are "out" is that you will get frusterated very quickly when trying to communicate. You won't be able to string words together. Apparently at one point i yelled "STOP IM BITCHING SHITTLES OPEN SKY!!!!" When we all smoked it at the same time everyone got really pissed because it is easy to misinterpret what someone is trying to tell you. Also, you can't really control how you come off to another person: if you are talking to your gf trying to sound calm and cool, you might accidentally come off as REALLY PISSED OFF. if somebody bitches you out when they're high don't hold it against them. I heard some people even start attacking random people. I was glad i had somebody sober there to watch my ass. AND DO NOT DO THIS WHILE DRIVING!!! IN A CAR IN A PARKING LOT IS OK BUT THE SOBER PERSON HOLDS THE KEYS!!! just sit tight because when we drove a little i was freaking out feeling like i was gonna get sucked out the window of the car. It's definitely not weed, and Salvia dosn't play nice.

That sounds AWESOME!

i think salvia and mushroom talks should not be baned. This thing must stop. How do u expect goverments to accept cannabis when ur not permited to talk about salvia in a cannabis forum? salvia divinorum is a kind of sagebush... my grandma boils that to have a good shit before sleep...

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Originally Posted by rottenPauL

my grandma boils that to have a good shit before sleep...

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Ha ha ha! What? :p

I used to like smoking Salvia but I don't anymore. I still have half a gram of 10x downstairs and I'll never smoke it. It fucks me up, but I get so tired, it tastes gross, and I just don't like the effects anymore.

And yes, shrooms and salvia talk should be allowed. It's madness I say! Madness! :p

sage man u know... like a tea thing... i think it helps u shit better and its good for the body spesially if ur ill

Yeah shrooms is my favorite drug i'm sad it's not allowed. Shrooms I can understand why it is not allowed. As for salvia, it's legal so it deserves it's own forum =)

Now I wanna do some salvia that sounded like awesome.

I did shrooms once and all I can say is that it was fucking awesome. I haven't done salvia yet as the headshop that sells it is always fucking out of it in my town.

wtf is salvia? You bought it at a smoke shop? Shit, I'm not THAT old...lmao

The feeling like you're gonna get sucked out the window of the car is legit...

That is how you feel...you lose control physically...but not physically...but through the will of another being...some call it Salvia...

others call it a FUCKIN TRIP...

All I know is your mind is not quite the same for at least the next 30-60 minutes. And maybe evermore.

It's a humbling experience without a doubt and totally NOT a recreational drug.

One day I just want to take like 4 or 5 hits to the brain (and i have enough of the 20 x to do that) and see how it feels....but honestly....

By about 3 hits your body just about controls your brain....(or something outside your mind and body actually seems to control both....some call it "the real world"...others call it FUCKED UP)

Be good brothers.

and one can buy this at a smoke shop?

yeah it comes in different strengths, 10x 15x 20x, etc. Just buy like 20 hits or so for about $25 at my local headshop. Pretty sweet, not sure how much longer it's going to be legal, though.

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Originally Posted by yoyoman1020

yeah it comes in different strengths, 10x 15x 20x, etc. Just buy like 20 hits or so for about $25 at my local headshop. Pretty sweet, not sure how much longer it's going to be legal, though.

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Yeah, but the only reason they would make this shit illegal is because people are irresponsible.

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Originally Posted by AlwaysBlazed

Yeah, but the only reason they would make this shit illegal is because people are irresponsible.

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Salvia is considered one of the most powerful psychadelics in the world, it's only a matter of time before it's illegal. It's not like marijuana was a huge cause of death before they illegalized it.

Someone come over and do some salvia with me, I want to try it sooooo bad now. All I hear is good shit about it :stoned:

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Originally Posted by rottenPauL

my grandma boils that to have a good shit before sleep...

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SIG'D!

about a month back i was at a friends party and they had some salvia 20 extract (20x) and they said it was crazy so some people wanted to try it. I didn't touch it but one of my friend put some in a bowl and hit it after about 5 sec. he stands up and says FUCK THAT and then walks out of the room and goes and sits down of the front porch for like 45 min. he wouldn't talk or anything and then he comes inside later on and starts drinking with the rest of us. Was kinda crazy so i never have tried it and never want to. He said he was scared shitless because it was such a crazy trip and he's done acid and shrooms and said it was completely different . He never really got into what he saw or heard or whatever but all i know is he was scared which seems like it would be too crazy for me. But maybe it has to do with your suroundings as to what u see and feel. Possibly too many people in the room so idk

can I buy it online?

yes, google it

ya ive done the 50x salvia and it fuck me up hardcore
that shit is too scary bc i lost control of everything my mind and my body got fuckin warped for like 2 minutes

honestly that shit is not right man, i like to have some control of my body at all times, i've never messed with it, and even though it sounds somewhat cool I don't think i'll try it until i'm 85 years old on my deathbed

I remember when I tried it I was the first of the group to go. Someone told us it just makes you hallucinate so I definitly wasn't expecting what happend.

I took the first hit, then the second and instantly felt something strange in the works. I got all sweaty and my mouth felt incredibly weird, especially with that horrible taste. And before I know it i'm just laughing insanely hard, unable to stop. I feel like im falling and grasp onto the table in front of me. There was a pool toy fish on the table and I felt like this fish had some importance to it. I was really hot and it felt like my shirt was melting to my skin so I try and take my shirt off but can't conjure up the will to do it. So I sit there, laughing for no apparent reason, unable to comprehend whats going on, in a completely different trip then what I had anticipated.

And thats pretty much how all my salvia trips have been. I feel like I should be going somewhere but never do, as I heard another person say. I guess im resisting the higher levels of the trip that cause you to have full environment changes? I dunno, all I know is salvia is nothing to mess with...

For you people to know cause you're so curious...
IF you've done shrooms, Salvia puts you in a 5-10 minute ego loss. Though salvia has its OWN ego loss thing which is why shroomers say it's very different than shrooms.

I tried 7x the day before I got 10x and only hallucinated a little and laughed like crazy. But the next day I came home with a ready bowl of 10x to try.
Salvia ego loss feels very close to a dream. The kind of dream that feels very very fake and surreal. This means you need to remind yourself you're on something in case you might kill someone thinking it's okay because you're dreaming.

Then you trip out a bit more into the stronger stage that for some people (like me) will only forget it almost entirely. I only remember seeing color patterns and adult swim was on (full metal alchemist) and the cartoon voices (which the trip made them sound like the rice krispies characters) mixed with my trip and kept repeating like:
(gibberish) sdklfjsdklfj -then i hear- 'UH OH!' and then I'd fall over on my bed.. my mind told me to do these things for reasons very unexplainable that you only understand if you try sally d. Then I got back up and my mind repeated that cartoony gibberish and 'UH OH!' again and fell over. this happened repeatedly. I really wish I turned off that TV! LOL!

I also remember trying to put the bong on the counter before I'd drop it but I kept forgetting what I was going to do... but then I realized finally when I snapped out of it that the bong was already on the counter that I put it there right after I took my first hit! Then I let out a long trippy sounding: "oooooooohhhhhh!!!"
But then I was in a series of 'ooohhhhh' cause I kept repeating it kinda like the 'uh oh!' thing.
Trying to understand that I put the bong on the counter earlier was the hardest thing to understand in my entire fucking life.

The comedown was horrible though. It scared me because I thought I was gonna feel this way forever..
To explain it.. I felt like I discovered a new reality in a bad light.. I was silent the rest of the day feeling like I loaded the universe in that bong which is not something a mortal can withstand and smoked a bowl (weed) to chill out.

I never tried salvia ever again. After that one bowl, I sold the rest of it to a friend's friend. No idea what happened to him but don't care.

What I also hate about salvia is how... evil it smells.. It's merely covered by flavors, but when you burn it, the true smell arises and it smells like evil.
If other flavors don't do this.. But I tried two flavors (the 7x was chocolate, the 10x was banana) the burnt smell still made that evil god damn smell..
Oi, and the smell you leave on your bong.. I'd rather buy a seperate bong for salvia. If I ever do that is.. and if I do.. it would have a female demon on it or something to symbolize the smell of Sally D.

~I FUCKING HATE SALVIA~
My buddy owns a head shop and gave me some 20x it was (purple sticky salvia 20x) the brand. I have done almost every drug. i am an adult, who has been doing acid mushrooms since about 93. I never heard of salvia till my buddy asked me about it( he does not do drugs or know shit about them, even though he owns a headshop). lots of people wanted it in his shop. So he calls me up and says come over here and try this stuff. So i take my stoned as down there and grab a glass bowl off the shelf and a pack a bowl of salvia. the container had i gram in it I put half in the bowl.( i did not even know what it would do) my bro said it is like weed . i was laughing cause i tried his ~legal buds~ the week before and laufghed my ass off at him for selling it. so i take a pull of it. and was telling him that it tasted like medicine i took one more big rip and cached the bowl before i could set it down i fell back against the wall and was sitting on the floor tripping my balls off. i could not comprehend anything i was getting scared and i was not sure anymore if it was really happening or if i was dreaming. then all of a sudden it got better i was not aware of anything going on the radio in the background stared talking to me it was just a commercial but it was like the guy was talking in my head to me. then all of a sudden i got cold and tired and felt like i woke up i had a big smile but i was pissed off i did not say a word my bro and his worker was laughing at me i punched my bro in face and walked out of the store. i would not talk about this for days i was really fucking scared man. more scared than when i took three hits of acid and got pulled over by the cops! I hate this shit it is evil i would not recommened anyone doing this ~BY THEMSELVES~ YOU WILL REGRET IT. now i know i did to much and should have researched it before doing it but still be carefull.......all i can say is if you wanna feel scared and like to feel like someone is pulling you out of your body then do it...you got more nuts than me.

i gota try some of this shit ill probz only get the 10x but me and 1 of ma mates will do it :) ill let you know how it goes

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Originally Posted by yoyoman1020

Salvia is considered one of the most powerful psychadelics in the world.

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I heard the same thing and I agree. I have only done the 5x and the 10x, but I can say, smoking the 10x was more intense within those first minutes, than any acid or shrooms I've done. Salvia is so powerful, that you lose control of any physical abillities. You can't walk, or stand, forget that shit, and your legs and arms become useless. You can't control them, at all. :p

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Originally Posted by the yeag

i could not comprehend anything i was getting scared and i was not sure anymore if it was really happening or if i was dreaming. then all of a sudden it got better i was not aware of anything going on the radio in the background stared talking to me it was just a commercial but it was like the guy was talking in my head to me.

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Yeah, that's exactly what salvia does. You enter a dream state and then when you reach the next stage, you are in ego loss - or rather an unconcious state.
Also, shit you hear in the background like radio, tv, etc.. it becomes part of you like someone talking in your head.
Just like the anime on adult swim that sounded like rice krispies characters talking gibberish in my head and going UH OH and then my body falls over!

Did you also become a part of it and start moving to the voices from the radio?

hell know i was like a little kid hiding in his clost from a burgler man...until i finnaly calmed my self down and took back my thoughts but then it was almost over......i forgot who said it but the smell does remind me of evil...very weird for me to say im not religous or really scared of anything but the smell just even scares me i got some here right now everytime my bro comes here he throws a tin of at at me and laughs.. i just smelled it and it scares me...i want to do it again but i just can't