UPDATE ON MY FIRST GROW!!

well its been just about a month(3 weeks and some change) from seed for my little babies just wanted to know what ya think! im using 6x24 watt cfl for vegging and 6x42watt for flowering. I have not used any nutes yet,tommorow is there first day. Im goin to be using schultz plant food 10-15-10 for the rest of veg. i was wondering if i should start off in smaller doses? There just under a month old so im not sure=\ I also have a plant that was being grown outside and was givin to me y a friend.it was basically dead but im binging it back any advice on her would be great! anyways any and all ADVICE is welcome and appreciated! Heres some pics

o i also wanted to know if that under growth in the first pic was supposed to be like that?:confused: (the nodes are cluster fucked its the only one like that) i also forgot to put the pics of the plant that was givin to me so here she is:D

many ppl looked but no 1 replied =\ cmon guys! i would really like some guidance! as this is my very first grow.

Well your indoor ones look like you're doing an alright job ... if you're going to LST, I'd do it now ... and, I WOULD definitely LST. It's a good idea, especially when using CFL's. You've got basically the same setup going as I do, with that many lights. My nodes are all clusterfucked like that too. It doesn't seem to be a bad thing, and when you tie it down, those things turn into main-node's, seemingly. Keep doing what you're doing!

tnx man thats a huge load off of my shoulders! the big plant is inside aswell, it was just brought in from being in complete shade for pretty much her whole life. the friend i got her off of just through seeds in a pot and forgot about it =\ anways tnx for the info! i was just wondering is there a correct way to lst the plant?
stylus

No the cluster fuck is not bad LOL. You might want to get a higher
level of (N) plant food for veg stage. Your plant foods that are low
in (N) & (K) and high in (P) are used for flowering. Some alaska fish
fert is a good source for extra nitrogen too you can get a bottle of
that at Lowes or what ever home improvement store you have with
a garden center.

I use 20-20-20 for veg. and 15-30-15 for flowering.

ooo ok tnx for the tip yab!i actually just tied my first plant down tonight and imma see how it reacts to the lst b4 i do the other ones. ill go grab some fish fert for the rest of my veg within the week! ill post more pics in a day or 2. Thanks for those who have takin interest in this thread and keep the advice coming!
stylus

lookin good stylus! ill be keeping an eye on this thread, ur plants seem to be doing great!

tnx man ! i actually just tied my second plant down but i ripped a stem off!!! :O but yea cmon guys keep em coming =]

welp, heres a lil update on my babies! Their a month old today and arent to happy withh the LST =\. i gave them there first nute feed yesterday and seem kinda droopy b/c of it. i left one plant un tied cause this is my first grow and wanna see the different results between topping and lst. Im actually not to sure if im even doin the LST right but w/e :D Anyways here are the pics! Any feedback is always appreciated <3:D
stylus

o yea the plant in the first pic got butchered by my lst lol. it was the first plant i tied and i ripped 2 branches off =x. u can also see my seedlings in the backround of my last pic. i dont know the strain but they came from these insane headies that was grown outside and got pollinated, so i was able to use there seeds. they have been out of the soil for a day and they are growing so much faster then my other plants did. Any idea why?
stylus

Where did you get the first seeds? Also, be careful bringing plants from outside in, you can get bug problems real quick. With the LSTing did you tie the mane stem down first or did you try to tie multables down at one time. When you tie one down at a time when they are still young it stresses them less depending on how much you are bending them.
Keep up the good work.
Adieu

the first seeds were bag seed. i didnt wanna buy seeds still being a noob grower. I tied more then just the main stem... thats prolly where i ran into problems. and yea im well aware of the bugs. the plant i brought in did have bugs but im fighting them as we speak lol. they havent went into my veg chamber cause its light proof from my flowering room. i check for bbugs everyday in my babies so im not to worried about that. and tnx for showing interest in this thread bear i really appreciate it. god knows i need all the guidance i can get =]
stylus

lst is great fun and a great experiance well done for going for it on you first grow .you seem to be doing ok mate.:thumbsup: looks like a fun grow.be safe the postman.

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Originally Posted by postmandave

lst is great fun and a great experiance well done for going for it on you first grow .you seem to be doing ok mate.:thumbsup: looks like a fun grow.be safe the postman.

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heh, tnx pmd! ur right i am having a blast with this grow! i acually have been watching ur mobay thread:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: looks awsome man! anyways <3 u all
stylus

Can any1 tell me the coreect way to top? and when im suppose to top plz?
<3 u all
stylus

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Originally Posted by Stylus

Can any1 tell me the coreect way to top? and when im suppose to top plz?
<3 u all
stylus

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hey there stylus.. to top a plant you simply cut the top part off thats it.. but i would advise u to LST some more you will thank yourself in the long run.. anyway your first grow looks nice.. have fun m8 :thumbsup:
pps.. if your goin to top the plant i would do it no laer then 1 week into 12/12.. but if i was you i would top it just b4 you put it into 12/12 good luck brother

Hey Stylus, :)

Your girls look beautiful.
I'm interested in the 'cluster fuck' plant.
Could you snap some more pics of her?
Guys: Could it be a polyploid [sp?] one?

Topping::::::
top=topping=FIMing
FIM = Fuck I Missed

When topping, the idea is that you cut out the top of the plant, and she'll grow two or more spreads in that top.

From my experience, it takes about 2-3 weeks for the plant to 'recover' from such topping.

Do a search limited to the Advanced Section... I know there's various kick-ass threads that explain, in much detail and with pictures, what's FIMing and how should it be done.

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Originally Posted by mrberrys

pps.. if your goin to top the plant i would do it no laer then 1 week into 12/12.. but if i was you i would top it just b4 you put it into 12/12 good luck brother

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IMHO, this is wrong.

I'm not an expert, but::::
I believe that you should permit a plant at least 2 weeks (aprox) to recover before 12/12ing them.
If you top, don't 12/12 immediately.

And I wouldn't FIM if I'm in 12/12.

But what the hell... that's the best thing about this... EXPERIMENTATION.

Best to you all,

-turtle420 :cool:
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stylus if your already doing LST do not top you could kill your plant from the stress LST is made for us who dont want to stress out the plants and to create and promote new growth shoots like what topping does plus with the LST you get to keep your main cola while the other side branches act as secondary cola's.

when you LST the plant sends out a hormone to make all shoots main shoots resulting in less stress and no recovery time i myslef debated LST vs . topping and im glad i LST'ed i will probly never top a plant ever i will always LST my crop no matter what.

when you LST go 1 node under the top so she can turn upward easily and bend her right over dont be afraid about breaking her go slow and easy and she should bend over almost right to the dirt.

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Originally Posted by invision

stylus if your already doing LST do not top you could kill your plant from the stress LST is made for us who dont want to stress out the plants

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Again IMHO, this is wrong.

I LST and FIM/top without problems.

Plants haven't died. Ever.

LST = Low Stress Trainning

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Originally Posted by invision

and bend her right over dont be afraid about breaking her

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That would be HST.... High Stress Trainning.


LST is very easy to 'master'.
I used something called "garden wire". It's a small thin wire, cover with a green plastic 'sheath'.
It is GREAT for LSTing, as it holds its shape while you work the plants.

The string you're using?
Trust me,... you'll be tired of that quickly. Very quickly.

Try and get the "garden wire". It's wonderful for LSTing plants.

Just bend her here and there... you'll get the hang of it in no time.

high stress training is topping bend a plant pver will not stress her enough to cause any damage ive done it this way to quite a few plants they recover in 24hrs or less.

as for the string it take me under 5 min to LST very quick and easy using string

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Originally Posted by invision

high stress training is topping bend a plant pver will not stress her enough to cause any damage ive done it this way to quite a few plants they recover in 24hrs or less.

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We're not planning out the future of the United Nations here, but I think some friendly discussion entails::::

We have a problem of 'terminology' here, as I see it.

From what I understand, LST is when you bend a plant over, WITHOUT the stem "snapping", "kinking" or "bending sharply". Smooth radius bends.

HST = High Stress Trainning, from what I understand, is NOT topping.

Topping = Topping = FIMing

HST is when you take a plant's stem, bend it until it kinks, and then carry on.
So, with HST, you're stressing the shit out of them because they have to repair what you do to them.

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Originally Posted by invision

they recover in 24hrs or less.

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I agree.

It is amazing to see how, a plant that you bend, takes a couple of hours to point its self in the direction of the light bulb. Simply amazing.

:)

Guys Thank you so much for the input! i appreciate it so much!:D
I think imma gonna go with LST for the last plant also. The cluster fucked plant is filling out like crazy everu since i tied it down. The other one i put way to much stress on and 2 stems got pulled off :( but none the less im having a great time learning and growing! hheres this pics of the 2 i tied down and another of the one im about to tie down(it also has nice under growth).

Id love to know when i should throw them in flowering =\ bit confused on that part. SHould i wait another monthh? how much bigger are they going to get when i throw them into flowering? etc etc <3 u all
stylus

you can hold off another 2-3 weeks since the LST will keep her down remember you want the biggest plant possible for the space

ok cool. not as long as i was thinking =] what kinda flowering nutes would u recommend for me? any suggestions are much appreciated =]
<3 u all
stylus

eh just a thought, everything looks nice, and this may be just a matter of preference, but if you cut the top off ur plants they will get more side growth. They wont turn out to look like that plant that was "given to ya." Looks like some kind of sativa climbing vine. The stuff u got goin looks nice healthy and compact. Good job this is my first time experimenting with only flouros too. Looks like they are working great.

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Originally Posted by turtle420

Hey Stylus, :)

Your girls look beautiful.
I'm interested in the 'cluster fuck' plant.
Could you snap some more pics of her?
Guys: Could it be a polyploid [sp?] one?

Topping::::::
top=topping=FIMing
FIM = Fuck I Missed

When topping, the idea is that you cut out the top of the plant, and she'll grow two or more spreads in that top.

From my experience, it takes about 2-3 weeks for the plant to 'recover' from such topping.

Do a search limited to the Advanced Section... I know there's various kick-ass threads that explain, in much detail and with pictures, what's FIMing and how should it be done.


IMHO, this is wrong.

I'm not an expert, but::::
I believe that you should permit a plant at least 2 weeks (aprox) to recover before 12/12ing them.
If you top, don't 12/12 immediately.

And I wouldn't FIM if I'm in 12/12.

But what the hell... that's the best thing about this... EXPERIMENTATION.

Best to you all,

-turtle420 :cool:
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turtel you could be right .Stylus could you get some good pic of the weird plants as it may be polypiod . and from what i have learned i will go with turtle on this and say always give at least 2 weeks after topping before going 12/12 you want at least that time for the plant to recover from the stress .Plants should be a stress free as possible during 12/12.be safe the postman.

yea pmd. ill try, i got an old ass camera tho. whats a polypiod?

Well heres those pics i promised! the plant we now refer to as the "cluster fuck" is filling out insanely fast and out of no where. its growing so may sub branches! anyways hopefully these pics can show ya. <3 u all
stylus

ps,the first pic is day one of being tied down. the second pic is day 3 since its been tied down, LOOK AT THE CLUSTER FUCK! and pic 3 is the over top view. o and look how the plant that was given to me is turning out =]

i think imma wait a few more days and then throw them into flowering! can any1 tell me what a polypiod is? <3 u all
stylus