you cant die from it... i see why other stuff is illegal but why weed?
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you cant die from it... i see why other stuff is illegal but why weed?
dude...its great youve joind us but chill with the thread making-age
its illegal becuase the government refuss to change their policies, a reasonable excuse, alothoguht it should be legalized it isnt, deal with it
It was made illegal in the US back in the 30s and it was a way to help control the Mexican population that was flooding into the country. It is probably illegal still for completely different reasons, but bullshit ones just the same.
yup theres no good reason for it to be illegal, it just costs the government more money but it could be cuz the government thinks that people who smoke weed commit crimes so they wanna lock em up for smokin cuz they cant catch em for other stuff
some reasons are bullshit and some are half founded, but all in all its bullshit and alot of things would be better if it were legal, and some wouldnt , but still everything has +'s and -'s. i doubt it'll be legal for a while now...
ps. how many times has this exact conversation been had on here?
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There are many reasons why it's not legal, most of the major ones have to do with money. Think about this logically. A great number of people in jail today are there because of minor drug charges (i don't remember the statistic but it's a ridcoulusly high percantage, something like half). "Three stirkes and you're out" laws in many states have caused ridicoulus sentances for minor drug offenses which causes prison populations to swell. Now this is, from most points of view, not a good thing. But now that it's occured it's difficult to stop because so many people make money. Police officers, prison guards, prison upkeap, prison construction and so forth, many of these people have jobs because marijuana is illegal and prisoners are abundant.
Another reason, but this is only speculation, is the big drug lords don't want marijuana to be legal. If MJ was legal then people would be less likely to come into contact with "hard" drugs through shady dealers. This would cause the big timers to lose alot of money. There's no doubt that they, in some form or another, "lobby" the lawmakers to keep MJ illegal.
Yet another reason is because it's easy for politicians to use as a tool to get votes. They can spread misinformation about the "dangers" of MJ and promise to "crack down" on this "life destroying drug" in an effort to get votes.
Either way you slice it, we get the shaft.
Sergo'z rite on wit that...
the main part ov it iz the crime related aspect, not ov smokin it, but traffickin it 2 make money. then they turn that whole aspect into it bein drug money 2 fund other illegal operationz, which most ppl think ov az killin, robbin, shit like that. an the fact iz that most ppl on earth r straight, so the gov't will try an keep the country straight 2 plz the majoirty an stay in power. thatz all there iz 2 it.
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I'm fine with weed being illegal. The fact is it DOES have a negative affect on your brain if you smoke lots of it constantly (which most users do). My memory is shit and my grades dropped in the past year, i'm slower, clumsier, more tired then usual, I constantly make dimwitted mistakes and I can tell it's because i've smoked weed over the course of the last 15 months.
On the other hand i'm calmer, I appreciate things more, my music has gotten better and i'm more relaxed then I was. This is why I smoke and I accept the consequences of it. If any old kids could easily get hold of weed, they'd be doing it everyday like the world was gonna end. Cigarettes are legal because people want and will smoke them over and over and over, the government gets lots of money and noone is hurt that bad until they die of lung cancer or whatever, but everyone knows that's what happens when you inhale smoke into your lungs.
Anyone on this site who's smoked longer then 6 months can deny it's had any long term affect on them but they are deluding themselves. I love draw, but I know it's changed me more for the worse then it has for the better and that's why i'd rather it was illegal 'cause in the end, everyones better off without it, as they are alcohol and cigarettes.
you're trippingQuote:
Originally Posted by Button Basher
"My memory is shit and my grades dropped in the past year, i'm slower, clumsier, more tired then usual, I constantly make dimwitted mistake"
Grade's aren't everything.. you've been told they are; you need good grades to get a good job, get a nice house, car, etc etc..
" i'm calmer, I appreciate things more, my music has gotten better and i'm more relaxed then I was."
to me, thats more important than grades, a career, and the persuit of little pieces of paper.. but hey, fair do's if thats how you see it
Lol, come on man. You MUST have experienced the memory loss that cannabis consumption causes. I forget stuff almost instantly, i'm like that fish from Finding Nemo. :p
All I know is, it's not the food i'm eating or the music i'm listening to. Havn't you ever met a dealer and they talk like they're brain is working 50% slower then everyone else? It's cause they bun everyday of every week of every month, etc. Townies talk like fucking morons because they abuse draw to the absolute limit.
Then again (and this literally hit me at the end of that last paragraph), look at alcoholics! Alcohol is a highly acclaimed, easily accessible drug that easily makes people violent, irresponsible and a danger to themselves and everyone around them. When you get addicted to it, you need it to get through the day, you get a FAT gut, you smell like shit, you can't get a job and noone respects you. We call them pissheads and we say it's their own fault for drinking too much. Now that I think about it, people can get mildly addicted to cannabis and smoke it everyday but they can still fill out an application form.
Hmm, I just contradicted myself there :confused: ! The thing is I really don't know whether cannabis should be legal or not. If it is, how would it change things? Surely not ALL for the better. All I know is, i'm fine with it being illegal but most of the time, easily obtainable. If you get caught with it your only gonna get a finger wagging and a drive home :D , who cares.
NOTE: The above is a prime example of what happens when you smoke cannabis. You can't make your bloody mind up about anything :eek: !
Oh yeah, and grades ARE everything man. I'm not gonna go to university without them, which means i'm not gonna get a good job and lead the good life I want without them. That's what's important, much more important then getting stoned, unless your idea of a good life is living in a cardboard box in an alley with nothing but lots of joints. See what I mean?
Yes, that's true. We don't have it nearly as bad as pot smokers in China, Japan, Indonesia or Libya must, but I still have to say I would prefer Dutch cannabis laws over ours any day of the week!
Another theory why it's illegal is because the government can not tax it if it was legal. Cannabis is a versatile plant. It can be used as a narcotic; medicinal use recreational. Hemp can be used for making clothes, ropes, and weed can even be a different source of fuel!! Although many studies have proved weed as harmless, it won't be legalized anytime soon. The American Governtment is greedy. Imagine this, if it is legalized, everyone would have they're own little weed gardens, and farmers would be growing it left to right. The government would have nowhere to tax it from. Everyone would be free to grow it themselve, hence there wouldn't be a need to go somewher to buy it if you're growing it yourself. I'm pretty sure some stores would sell weed, but what would the point be of buying it legally, when you could be growing it by the pounds and ounces all for the price of some good seeds! Hence there is no revenue for the government to make off the legalization of MJ!
ok, so i stand corrected :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Button Basher
You're right, townies/dealers who smoke nonstop 24/7 do talk like morons.. And I have experienced short-term memory loss etc, and I know it's from smoking a hell of alot of weed
BUT, to me, money isn't everything.. our rights and our freedom is being taken from us.. we're not free to choose if we wanna smoke up or not.. to me, having our right to choose is more important than grades..
It just sucks that to lve the life we wanna live we have to earn money to do it.. if only we lived in a utopian society.. sigh lol
the gov't could tax weed, they tax tobacco whats the diffrence
it can be bad for ya.
i cant read when im stoned coz i cant focus or concentrate so i stopped learning a lot by collecting unread books.
i aint got no grades to worry about gt, just afraid i wont be the smartest arse there ever was anymore. :D
lol imotep
sure, weed does have some bad affects like that.. but you just gotta know when to slow down, right!? :)
To GT, the fact that smoking is outlawed and that's taking away our rights etc doesn't bother me. I can still do it! Only Americans bullshit about their rights being taken away for small, insignificant things. The point is, we're barely allowed to do anything without their being some kind of law or restriction about it, if i'm gonna start on weed I might as well carry on to everything else I like to do. I like smoking, so I do it. It's illegal, but has that stopped ANYONE on this forum? :D
Wow, when you talk about "going to university" and all your grades, I start to see how young most of you are. I personally think smoking bud in high school is more detrimental than beneficial, at the end of the day. We love being high, but it really does make things hard to do so well. I smoked all thru high school, and never did that well. There are many who can indulge and handle things fine. But there are most who lean more towards abuse, and it can really mess your head up.
Your grades and money do matter, sad as it is. The world is revolved by money, and most people are consumed by it. None of us are happy about it, but that's how it is. It is important to do well in school, and it really will, **sigh**, have an effect on your whole life. Go easy on drugs or drinking at such a young age.
Our policy is to legalize, and make available for use by responsible adults, taxed by the government; the governmant makes boatloads and cannabis can finally earn the good name it deserves. Check out http://www.norml.org for more information on the real legalization movement. Get involved!!
I've been toking pretty constantly for over 20 years.
I use for depression, so I toke every day, at least 2 or 3 times, except when I can't get any.
I've acted in over 50 plays, and have no problem memorizing and remembering my lines while stoned.
But I didn't start regular use until I was out of high school, rarely drink alcohol since my 20s, don't take any pills except vitamins and the occasional aspirin or advil, only snorted coke a handful of times (never bought any), and very occasionally trip. I am a regular cig smoker and coffee drinker, however.
William Randolph Hearst, the biggest newspaper publisher in the U.S. before WWII, owned vast amounts of timber used to make pulp paper. The value of his timber was threatened by new technology to havest and process hemp into pulp for much less cost than timber. Hearst not only published the many lies about marijuana circulated in the 1920s and 30s, but wrote them himself and personally met with federal officials to encourage a national marijuana law.
Du Pont was the richest and most powerful company in the world by the 1920s, after supplying most of the arms to both sides in WWI, and was partners with Standard Oil. They were developing petroleum based synthetic materials such as Nylon, whose main competition would be natual hemp fiber and the synthetics that could be made from hemp's rich source of cellulose. They also developed chemicals used in the processing of timber into pulp paper and owned a lot of timber land. As if that wasn't enough, DuPont also owned General Motors, whose chief competitor, Ford, was developing cars made of hempen materials. DuPont was well aware of hemp's potential, because they had used a lot of it to manufacture dynamite. Politicians key in the passage of the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937 were connected to DuPont.
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well on thw whole tax thing, there wood still b enuff non growerz 2 have a steady market fer the gvt 2 raise sum tax $ out ov it.
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