hey do you think the fall of twc towers was created by the govnment or a carefully planned attack by a group mid-eastern terrorist
what do u think
a scam or terrorist
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hey do you think the fall of twc towers was created by the govnment or a carefully planned attack by a group mid-eastern terrorist
what do u think
a scam or terrorist
i dont know i mean there is lots evidence that it was the government but mabey the conspiracy theorists just make shit up but im kinda split in half.
heres some info. watch the intro video www.question911.com
Errr.... I'm pretty sure it was terrorists... I didn't even think it was questionable at this point..
only a few know for sure. Some people believe in the bible.. some in their ability to learn quickly.. others believe they are sane (watch out for these types). Before you decide... empty your cup.
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A university professor went to visit a famous Zen master. While the master quietly served tea, the professor talked about Zen. The master poured the visitor's cup to the brim, and then kept pouring. The professor watched the overflowing cup until he could no longer restrain himself. "It's overfull! No more will go in!" the professor blurted. "You are like this cup," the master replied, "How can I show you Zen unless you first empty your cup."
I don't really believe that the government would plan out an attack
on its own people like that. They are dirty yes but to say that the
government planned the WTC attack is just crazy in my opinion.
people are out fighting, and dying trying to solve this shit that blossomed from the 911 attack, its not very respectable to think its all a sham to the ones who've died over this..
i think its a conspiracy
yeah, who else could it be but a bunch of box cutter wielding terrorist pilots who trained to fly a small plane, but ended up flying huge jets, able to take over jets full fo adults, and then turn jets around and find the pentagon, wtc?Quote:
Originally Posted by OniEhtRedrum781
And their instructors tried to convince us that their piloting skills were minimal.
someones lying.
dai*ma:stoned: sfca
watch loose change. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...e+change&hl=en
We're not allowed to tell you...sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackBerry
I support the idea that there were shady happenings on 9-11 (Free-fall speed of the towers, people being told not to fly prior to the date, etc.)
But it's unquestionable that Islamic Facism was responsible for the attack. Could other peope have known about the attack prior to 9/11? It's possible
Was 9-11 carried out by genuine terrorism? Absolutely.
I used to believe in the conspiracy theory, but luckily I was able to cure myself. It's so easy to convince yourself of a conspiracy when it points the blame on somebody you already hated anyways, but eventually I had to be honest with myself and admit that there really isn't any clear, convincing evidence that the government was at all behind this. I hate the government, I hate the Bush administration and everything it stands for, but I'm not going to blame them for something they didn't do.
Bush is most definitely a terrorist though; his assaults on Afghanistan and Iraq are more than enough to show that. He is just doing it through a large, organized force whose job is to systematically carry out terrorism on foreigners in order to further American interests (the US military). Through those wars he has murdered far more civilians than the 9/11 terrorists did. What's more, we can actually prove that the government is behind those deaths. We have real solid evidence of it, evidence we can use to justifiably punish them for the crimes they have committed. We don't need to make shit up. Let's go after all the terrorists: the US government, al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, fuck them all.
The towers did not fall at free-fall speed. Anyone can clearly see the debris clouds fell faster than the building collapsed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nylo
http://www.debunking911.com/freefall.htm
Stopping terrorism, Brooklyn-style.
Videos:
http://www.thekidfrombrooklyn.com/vi...p?videoid=1183
http://www.thekidfrombrooklyn.com/vi...p?videoid=1146
Terrorist attack, without a doubt.
I use to be a 9/11 conspiracy theorist. But then, having lost my ability to make speculative leaps, without logic, reason or any conventional perception of reality to back up my theories, I figured terrorists flew airplanes into the WTC and Pentagon.... and, surprisingly, live footage of the events supported my change of heart.
Seriously, if you believe this conspiracy shit you really need to hone more of your critical thinking and analytical skills... not your cynical personality type and paranoid conjecture skills.
It's that fucking simple!!! If you believe 9/11 conspiracy theories you need to back off the bong and the computer games and get out more....
Love that sarcasm, sweet Gray!
Thanks, I'm trying to reign it in but I can't help myself. How's school?
Right now, I'm caught up and all is well. In everything we've had grades in, I've either got A's or P's (for passing), but the first round of big exams is about two weeks away. Biochemistry may yet be my undoing. I feel undone everytime I walk into the class. Wish I had a natural brain for math rather than words. I've got the hang of the other classes pretty well, though, and homework/reading is starting to go faster now that I know more of the words. We're supposed to be using those medical words as much as possible, and one of my fellow students dinged me the other day for calling a dark spot on our anatomy lab specimen a mole rather than a nevus.
How're you? Been to any cool nature spots lately?
just the fact that they confiscated the sheraton hotel sureveillence movies, kinda creeps me out, i really want to here the person speak who worked at the sheraton and saw the tapes. the airplane seems to have been small, or it was a sort of plane shaped missile. witch they do have i believe. i wouldlike to see the tapes.
Spent some rain soaked nights in the white mountains last week... ah well, it rains there more than there's sun...
Ah, rain. We're still in the throes of our terrible drought. We did have a rainy day a week or so ago, but they tell us we need 15 or so days of nonstop, drenching rain to get the lake that supplies this area with drinking water back up to a passable level. We drove out to look at the lake yesterday, and it truly looks like it's been drained. It's scary. A local oilman/billionaire named T. Boone Pickens has a plan to build a huge pipeline and pipe in water from a huge underground aquifer in the Texas panhandle and sell it like a commodity. Without that solution, by 2010 or so, the Dallas area will be largely waterless. Like I said, scary.
Whoa, if T. Boone is in it I'd have to move far away... that man is out to make air a commodity.
Yeah, T. Boone's a profiteer, alright. Actually, his plan is to sell it at reasonable prices equal to what we're paying now. He's richer than God already, and the altruists among us are hoping his motivation here is higher than profit. The realists among us are already all too familiar with how pure the motivations of Texas oil tycoons and companies are. We see that purity reflected in our U.S. energy policy every day.
I have no doubt that in the end, T. Boone will make out like Halliburton. That's my new favorite expression for anyone who's going to do well at anything.
Interesting, so is there a significant backlash of Enron, Haliburton your way? Would it make a difference in the coming election?
There's definitely some Enron backlash and plenty of distrust of the motives of big bidness after that debacle, but there are so many people employed in this area by Halliburton and/or KBR, I don't think most of them would ever think twice about still voting with the right.
I expect a number of Enron victims have changed their votes, but not enough to penetrate the deeply entrenched right. We're still the buckle of the Bible belt, and much of the political loyalty down here is about religion. As you know, Texas, even in its long history as a Democratic state, was always deeply conservative. Now it simply votes officially as what it always was, red. There's still tons of loyalty to our former governor and the former chairman of Halliburton here. And closer to home, in the upcoming gubernatorial and senatorial and gubernatorial races, the incumbent Republicans have huge leads. Truly, they're not even really campaigning except for some minor ads just to keep themselves from looking smug. We'll have four more years of Governor Rick Perry, the dumbest man who ever breathed the breath of life, and Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, the dumbest woman. The Democrats will have to make headway in other places than the Lone Star State, I'm afraid.
hey thanks to all of u who talked about 911 (for those asses that used it for your own personal crap there r phones Emails n instant messengers for that) well I think we everyone should say "what?" they (our elected officials) have been trying to get us to use buy free up the vast supply of non-renewable ozone destroying oil that creates wars death homelessness ect for 30 years why? ask bush or his poppa older bush ask him why he started the gulf war n wear boots cuz hell talk around for a wile n before hes done the shit will be deep not cuz of oil
But now americans r hurt n pissed so we started a war on Iraq why? who knows not me but maybe to keep minds occupied from other worldly events for insistence 50% of the population of Africa is dieing becuz of AIDS (rest assured America cares we gave em condoms n 200,000 bucks to help educate) hey America cant carry the world cuz after all were supporting a war n treating Iran, seria, turkey n stopping Korea from nuking themselves but cnn wont tell u that brazil detonated an underground nuke or how china can blow up any satellite they dislike "oh, no a roadside bomb killed 3 more today when a suicide bomber...? what uh war distractions
i dont think the government did it, but i dont know who did it
I think the government had a hand.
I think it's the gov... But i question myself everytime it's brought up..
If you believe everything your government tells you (and it's not like they haven't lied before) and you don't think for yourself (and just follow the money) then we really are all screwed.Quote:
Originally Posted by graymatter
Of course terrorists flew planes into the WTC - but your CIA put the money in their pocket to do it.
I'll believe it was not our government when someone explains to me how you can fit a 70' wide aircraft through a 15' hole.
whatQuote:
Originally Posted by PharmaCan
I don't doubt that the planes hit the WTC... and yes they were probably hijacked by terrorists. But I do beelieve that the WTC fell down due to a controlled demolition using small Fuel Air Explosives.
But I do not believe that the people our government has pointed the finger at are responsible. Instead the terrorists are in positions of power within the establishment. Occupying positions of power as Politicians, Bankers, Military Leaders, Intelligence Agencies, Organized Crime, and most importantly the Media. Terrorists whom have the objective to remove any of our true freedom's and enslave us to our government with false pretenses of freedom.
If you do not believe that it is not possible go back and study your history.
The US government conspired with bin cock suck to attack the US so we could have an excuse to invade and control the world oil reserves or part of them.
The hole in the Pentagon was approximately 15' diameter. The aircraft that went through that hole had a wing span of 70'. (The wingspan may have been greater, but you get the point.) There was absolutely no aircraft debris outside the Pentagon - none whatsoever.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackBerry
The wings would have been sheared as the aircraft went through the hole and the wreckage of the wings would have been outside the building.
The Bush administration is so corrupt and so power hungry that I wouldn't put anything past them. Look at all the freedoms that we have lost, and all the power that the Executive branch has amassed, since 9/11.
Do I claim to know who was responsible? No. Do I believe the government's version of events? No - there are too many obfuscations.
I believe it was both because ya know, the US government are terrorists
A very informative video is The Illuminati
fuckin awesome movie about the US government, it scared the shit out of em honestly
i reccomend watching it :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
It was terrorists, not the government
i remember watching one video on the conspiracy stuff behind this and there was a jet or two that landed at an airport and the people were taken into a hanger immediately after it stopped. they said that the tail number was the same that matched with one of the other flights that supposedly had crashed into the WTC. i may be making this up but it may have been in the loosechange video. for me it's a half-n-half situation. like others pointed out the WTC falling down it didn't seem quite right. in one video i watched you could see what appeared to be explosions shooting out every 3-5 floors as the building was going down. It just doesn't seem like everything the gov't and media tells us is true. especially with the pentagon, there's no wing marks from where the jet would have slammed into it, just a nice clean hole.
it's extremely saddening event and hopefully this country won't ever have to endure another even like that again.