Gonna be trying marinol soon......"thc pills" what does everyone think about them......whats your experiences?
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Gonna be trying marinol soon......"thc pills" what does everyone think about them......whats your experiences?
They work and are quite potent actually. I took 5 one night and tripped balls, lol.
im thinkin about buying 3 of them.....$2 a peice..(is that a good price?) and im gonna take 1 by myself one night....just to kinda see what it does, and then I'll take 2 before I go to school the next day
i like smoking more. but thaeyre alright. have fun.
marinol is THC dissolved in sesamae seed oil. i always wanted to put a few in a Volcano Vaporisor... would be interesting.
DO NOT TAKE MORE THAN 1, i once took 4 thinking 'eh it's only thc' long story short i overdosed badly, wife had to call poison control and i 'know' i was dying.... yea that day sucked all kinds of ass..
how is the high with marinol? body, mind?
body, definately body... if you take like 1 maybe two smoke half a j, and have one beer (12oz) and you close your eyes you'll feel like you're on some carnival ride, spinning around in multiple directions... like you'll be flipping while doing tight 360's and 'orbiting' an imaginary point.... like i said, take it very easy on them, you can overdose it's not just thc it's synthetic (man made) but it is so strikingly similar to regular weed (on a more potent level) it's amazing really...
also, whenever i did mine, i always bit them open, they're in just a gel coating that would dissolve in all of 5 minutes anyways, so you can skip 5 minutes for inital 'trip' just by biting them open (they actually have no taste really, kinda like bitting into vegetable oil, but absolutely no taste)
shit i might just stick with taking one then......dont wanna overdose or some shit.......my friend says he takes 5 to get him high....now im starting to question that
im confused why can you od do they add dangerous shit or what?:confused:
it's not real thc, it's synthetic, which means it's man made, purely man made, it's not thc it's just something very similar to it on a chemical structure, and being that it's man made it also has the negative side which is possible overdose.
your friend is stupid if he's taking 5, he's overdosing, i took four and my wife called poison controll to find out that, the dose i took was "way over the overdose limit" (i believe he said ld50, but i'm sure most of you wouldn't know what that was)
just becareful, it may react with diffrent people in diffrent ways, if you wanna be stupid and just get high go ahead and take a few and have the great risk of OD-ing on it, but if youw anna be smart, first try one, if that night you don't get what you want, try two, if that night you don't get what you want try 3 (i highly don't reccomend this but it's better then you just popping 3-5 off the start) durring this expermentation, do not do anything else, not even weed, you first want to know how each dose effects YOU before you add other drugs.
Actually, I think a lot of us know wut LD50 means...Quote:
Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
Shit, that stuff sounds fucked up, maybe I'll cross paths with it someday, I definitely wouldn't go out of my way to get it tho
ive heard of marinol but...never seen it or heard of anyone having it around my area?...where can i get some?
$2/pill??? no fucking way...they cost 5 times that out of the pharmacy and i know that for a fact...just got a script for the 2.5's and they cost just under 300 bucks for 30.
and they're not that great...good bud is far better.
Wow, I wasn't aware it could be dangerous. Glad to know that now. The experience I had was over a year ago. I'll admit it the trip was a bit scary at times but the entire dose was spanned out over a period of about 3 hours. Haven't done that since though. I think for now I'll stick to my regular weed. :stoned:
tru datQuote:
Originally Posted by m.g.
Haven't seen it hear in the Uk or anyone I know taking it etc. Damn you drunk infested yanks:p
Peace
Buddy
I'm gonna have to disagree with you when you say it's not REAL THC. You see, there's no difference between the THC molecule in a Marinol and the THC molecule found in cannabis. THC is THC--if it wasn't then it wouldn't be called THC, it would be called something else. When you say it's not real THC, you imply that the molecule is some other compound. If this were the case, then one couldn't say it's THC pills and be accurate. Furthermore if it is not real THC then it would have to be some other compound.Quote:
Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
I think 5 marinols might not be that bad of an idea. You might get really stoned but it's still THC. It's best to not combine alcohol with cannabis in my experience because it is a powerful combination. But I don't think you will OD and be at great health risk from taking 5 marinol. The LD50 (lethal dose that kills 50 percent of subjects tested) is very very high.
so you're saying the poison control center lied to my wife then? i know what i felt, i was even told to go the hospital, but i refused guess i was scared i'd have to get a tube shoved down my throat...
and if it were just thc in a pill, then i sure as hell wouldn't have been able to od on four of them, because one would have to have such a high concentration, they just wouldn't be practical, and i highly doubt hardly anyone would voluntarily take them. just imagine what taking 1/4 of the ridiculously high od limit of thc all at once would do to your mind and body....
i'm going by what my wife was told when she had to call, unless you can show viable proof otherwise, i think i'm going to believe them.
Just smoke weed you crazy stoners.
http://www.ardpark.org/reference/marinol.htm
this backs up what i said earlier on the fact that experiences will greatly differ, tho i did not know they can differ greatly in the same person at two diffrent times, so it's unpredictable pretty much. it also states that it is synthetic, and not just thc poured into a pill.
also while doing some more research, i've found a couple more things, (to those who want to do them) it is more psychoactive then regular cannabis, the reason they feel like oil when you bite into them is because the synthetic thc in it is combined with sesame seed oil, the effects can last anywhere from 4-6 hours, but as for onset it can vary greatly, person A may feel it in 30 mins, where as person B may have taken them 2 hours ago and still feel nothing, and person C may never feel anything.
however i cannot find actual documentation of the ld50 on marinol, since we've established it's synthetic and not pure, it doesn't nessicarily share a ld50 with natural cannabis.
Nobody is saying the poison control lied to your wife. You could have very well overdosed. However keep in mind that overdose doesn't necessarily mean life-threatening. You took an overdose of the recommended amount, which is 1 pill. This constitutes an overdose, however it's not life-threatening. It is just THC in a pill, the THC being dissolved in sesame seed oil. Combine what you took with alcohol AND half a joint, and I'd say you were pretty fucked up. However I doubt if you were in a life and death situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
The poison control told you to go to the hospital to be on the safe side. But you refused. Had you been in any real danger, you'd have suffered serious consequences from it. Serious consequencens meaning you might not be here to tell your story.
Yes, I am saying that the only psychoactive chemical in Marinol is Delta-9 THC. It's nothing else. If it were some other psychoactive chemical, then legally it could not be marketed as a THC Pill. There are legalities surrounding the issue. The pharmaceutical company cannot market a THC pill with another drug being an active ingredient. It would need to be listed in the active ingredients. www.rxlist.com if you need further information. If it wasn't just THC In the pill, I'm sure the effects of overdose would have been much more harmful. You need to understand the pharmacology of the drug.
The reason you reacted so harsh to the substance was most likely because you took 5, combined it with alcohol, and then smoked more weed. Alcohol often has a multiplier effect with drugs, meaning that if you take alcohol and another drug at the same time, it multiplies the level of intoxication. I'm sure the alcohol had something to do with your overdose (or should I say, unpleasant experience) because even personally when I combine alcohol and weed I'm pretty much catatonic and out of it.
So yes, it's only THC that is psychoactive in Marinol.
It is synthetic, meaning it was created in a laboratory and not derived from the cannabis plant. It's still the same chemical when it comes down to it. The sesamae seed oil is used because THC is soluable in oils...Quote:
Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
When you said ".. person A may feel it in 30 mins, where as person B may have taken them 2 hours ago and still feel nothing... " , this has nothing to do with the fact that the chemical is synthetic. Bottom line is, synthetic or not, it's still Delta-9 THC. It was created in a lab by chemists, but it's still the same chemical that occurs in nature. The only difference is that it was created using technology, not a plant... so it's the same chemical.
Lastly, most drug texts will say what you have pointed out--that the drug can effect people differently. This depends on the individual and again, has nothing to do with whether or not the chemical is synthetic or drived from natural sources.
When you say, "we've established that it's synthetic and not pure," this is misleading. A pure substance may be synthetic. The only way it would not be pure is if it's cut with something else. In essence, marinol is only "cut" with the sesame seed oil and the gel coating, but there is no impurity in the drug which is psychoactive.
again, synthetic = created in a lab by chemists--this has nothing to do with the strength or molecular makeup of the chemical. Synthetic only points to how the chemical was synthesized. Whether it comes from the cannabis plant or is created in a lab (synthesized) , the end molecule is the same-- it's still Delta-9 THC.
Citing RXLIST.COM,:
"Dronabinol, the active ingredient in MARINOL (dronabinol) Capsules, is synthetic delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (delta-9-THC). Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol is also a naturally occurring component of Cannabis sativa L. (Marijuana)."
So synthetic or not, it's the same exact chemical when we examine it on the molecular level.
FYI dryst, THC isn't illegal if you have the proper permit from the government. it's only Scheduled.
do u live int he US dude?...THC is the active ingreident in Mj that makes it illegal...wtf are u talkin about?...permits are only obtained for medical reasons (and thats only in certain states....)
i would like to back up the statement that it is man made THC. its not from a natural source, it is man made, but yes it is the same chemical structure as THC. i read a little bit about them and it sounds like one pill lasts about 6 hours. maybe i'm just a pussy but i think i would probably only take one, MAYBE two but definitely no more than that. i'll just stick to bud unless i somehow come across these things for free.
Yes I do live in the USA.Quote:
Originally Posted by dryst
THC isn't the active ingredient that makes it illegal actually. The law prohibits "marijuana" in any form, and in theory if you had marijuana buds with 0 percent THC it is still illegal. Permits are obtained through the government for medical reasons, or for research purposes. So I don't see your point. Because the pharmaceutical company obviously has gone through the necessary steps to legally synthesize THC, otherwise the DEA would be shutting them down.
Man-made THC is the same exact thing as natural THC. It does the exact same thing to your brain because it is the exact same molecule.
actaully if thc wasnt in bud then no one would smoke it, making it pointless to outlaw...so...infact yes thc is what makes weed illegal...i dont see ur point dude...u just repeated me...yes i know permits are only handed out for medical/research purposes...i sadi that and u verified it...
yeah i'm sure that's how YOU see it but the law sees it differently.Quote:
Originally Posted by dryst
the law doesnt care about how much THC Is in the weed. the law outlaws marijuana, and it doesn't give any guidelines as to the amount of THC being relevant to the nature of the offense. You can have a half ounce of dirt weed that won't get you high and then you could have a half ounce of chronic that gets you high with 1 hit. The law doesn't look at it differently, because a half ounce of marijuana is a half ounce of marijuana, regardless of the quality. So your statement "actaully if thc wasnt in bud then no one would smoke it making it pointless to outlaw... thc is what makes weed illegal" is not valid, because the law didn't aim to outlaw THC--the point was to outlaw marijuana in any form. Remember that the drug laws were enacted with no regard to the amount of THC in marijuana.
With that being said, if you were in possession of marijuana with 0 percent THC, and you were busted with it, the law isn't going to take the time to pay someone to analyse the THC content and determine what crime you've comitted based on the amount of THC found in the weed. What matters is that marijuana is illegal, it's black and white, so even if there is no THC in the weed you still are going to be charged for possession of a controlled substance.
ur not seeing the point...but ill let u belive w/e u want...seeing as how u wont change ur pov either way...
gee, thanks for letting me believe what i want. maybe you should study the laws.Quote:
Originally Posted by dryst
What he's saying is that the illegality of marihuana has nothing to do with THC. If nobody smoked it, if it didn't contain THC, then it would still be illegal. They just would have had to use different propoganda techniques.Quote:
Originally Posted by dryst
Here's the point:
It's not the THC in marijuana that makes it illegal, because the law doesn't say anything about the THC making it illegal. The law simply bans marijuana. While I agree, it'd be pointless to smoke marijuana with 0 percent THC, if you were to possess marijuana with 0 percent THC it is still an offense LEGALLY because the law does not distinguish between good marijuana and bad marijuana. Marijuana in any case is considered illegal, even if it's got no drug content... why do you think we can't farm industrial hemp? Even though it's got almost no THC it is still illegal, because the law is very black and white about it: Marijuana is illegal.
Edit: Graph is totally right, that's my point. Glad you can understand my point Graph :thumbsup:
look dude...if i get caught with a oz of pot im going to jail...why ? because im in possession an illegal substance...right?...ok so what if im caught with 100 marinol pills?....i going to jail because im in possession of an illegal substance (without a medical permit w/e...). last time i check, or at least accroding to u..theres no plant matter, there no plant fibers there no resin or bud in marinol...ok so whys it illegal to have then?...cause it has thc in it...
I am against doing pot alone. period. For me and my peers smoking pot has always been a recreational activity. Either sitting around watching a movie, groovin to tunes, going hiking, canoeing, surfing, the beach, whatever.
I was caught by a group of my peers smoking pot ALONE - you know what? They branded me a CRACKHEAD and have shunned me every since. I guess its kind of like have sex alone. Really forwned upon and distained by socialites and the like.
WHy take Marinol, you sound like you are just becoming an addict or something. Next think you know you'll be poppin pills like oxy, viks, valium, fentanyl etc. DONT BE A JUNKIE
why would u care what people think about u?...set ur own trends man...if u like smokin alone then fuckin do it
If you are caught with 100 marinol, you are guilty of possessing a controlled substance if you're not the rightful prescription holder. If it's your prescription then it's fine. If you're caught with pure THC powder which obviously isn't a prescription, you are guilty of possessing a controlled substance.Quote:
Originally Posted by dryst
There are different laws controlling marijuana and controlled substances. The idea wasn't to ban THC in all forms when Marijuana laws were first being drafted. Aslinger aimed to eliminate Marijuana in plant form back in the reefer madness days. At that time it would have been legal to possess THC powder as long as it's not the plant marijuana (that's called a loophole). At that time however, I'm sure that nobody was walking around with pure THC powder--the thought probably didn't even cross the government's mind.
1970 comes around and the government impliments the new system of scheduling drugs. This aims to broaden the illegality of all drugs such as LSD... this is when THC became illegal, among other drugs. So in 1970 we have marijuana (in all forms) that is illegal, and then we have THC made specifically illegal in 1970.
Marijuana was made illegal before THC was made illegal. While it might be THC that gives people the high, it wasn't THC that was illegal necessarily, because prior to 1970 one could be in possession of THC as long as it wasn't marijuana. This is because marijuana was outlawed, but the law did not say anything specifically about THC until 1970.
It sounds like your friends are kind of lame. Maybe you should get better friends who aren't so concerned with the personal life of other people. Sounds like dumb ass high school drama to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by budzy malone
point being their both illegal which is what i was saying from the start...whether they were made illegal the same day or 1000 years later, their both still illegal
alot of what you were saying has nothing to do with the 'argument' at hand, because well it wasn't part of the argument that was info intended for the people wanting to try marinol.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanCurtisWishlist