Former British Ambassador Says Terror Alert Is "Propaganda"
Why am I not surprised.....:confused:
get ready for the new attack!
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Former British Ambassador to Uzbekistan Craig Murray says the alleged transatlantic liquid bomb plot is staged-managed propaganda on behalf of Bush and Blair - who yearn for a "new 9/11" to absolve them of domestic political trouble.
Murray previously blew the whistle on how the British government was using evidence obtained from torture in Uzbekistan - inflicted on its population US-funded regime of Islam Karimov - the dictator who likes to boil people alive.
Murray questions the intent and capability of the alleged terrorists to carry out the attack and offers the likelihood that evidence of the plot was obtained through torture in Pakistan.
"None of the alleged terrorists had made a bomb. None had bought a plane ticket. Many did not even have passports, which given the efficiency of the UK Passport Agency would mean they couldn't be a plane bomber for quite some time," says Murray (pictured).
"In the absence of bombs and airline tickets, and in many cases passports, it could be pretty difficult to convince a jury beyond reasonable doubt that individuals intended to go through with suicide bombings, whatever rash stuff they may have bragged in internet chat rooms."
"Then an interrogation in Pakistan revealed the details of this amazing plot to blow up multiple planes - which, rather extraordinarily, had not turned up in a year of surveillance. Of course, the interrogators of the Pakistani dictator have their ways of making people sing like canaries. As I witnessed in Uzbekistan, you can get the most extraordinary information this way. Trouble is it always tends to give the interrogators all they might want, and more, in a desperate effort to stop or avert torture. What it doesn't give is the truth."
Murray describes the alert as "more propaganda than plot," and points out that of all the Muslim terror suspects who have been charged, 80% have been acquitted and only 2% have ever been convicted on offenses related to terrorism.
Meanwhile, Delhi police in India claim they have concrete evidence that proves collusion between Pakistani intelligence service ISI and the terror group Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) in carrying out militant attacks in India.
One of the alleged mastermind's of the liquid bomb plot, Rashid Rauf, is a member of Lashkar-e-Taiba. The ISI is a CIA front and the CIA have privately ignored their control of terror groups while publicly lauding Pakistan's status as an ally in the war on terror.
On Monday night it emerged that elements of MI5 wanted the liquid bomb plot to proceed and make the arrests only after the attack had taken place - sacrificing an estimated 3,000 lives and ensuring Britain experienced its own 9/11.
Former British Ambassador Says Terror Alert Is "Propaganda"
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Former British Ambassador to Uzbekistan
Former British Ambassador Says Terror Alert Is "Propaganda"
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Originally Posted by Jake Martinez
Myth, can you quote the law of averages for me?
"Even the worst prophet is right once in awhile"
Anything on infowars.com is automatically discredited? Really? Why? Because Alex Jones is a nut? That's true, but did Alex make those statements? No. An ambassador did. Damnit, Myth, don't try to discredit everything you see based on the people who wrote it.
Alex Jones reminds of that Kramer guy on Mad Money.
That guy Kramer takes his ques from certain factors that he has researched and used to PREDICT the market.
He acts just as nutty as Alex does, but he makes money in the market.
I see no difference in the way Alex Jones goes about comeing to his predictions, he's takeing information from credible sources and bases an opinion on it.
I dont think the information on his site should be deemed less creditable simply because its on his site. Most of the stuff on his site is cut and paste from other news sources. And allot of times has a link to the source.
I do however think he should tell us the reasons he believes the attacks are now iminent. That post not so long ago with the link to the recording of his show he states that we will be attacked based on information he has viewed, but doesnt give specifics as to the information.
Peace.
Former British Ambassador Says Terror Alert Is "Propaganda"
I think trying to fight great purple pocka dotted people eating beast that is the unfavorable elements in goverment is taking its toll on him. He finds horrible things why wouldn't he be a little angry.
Former British Ambassador Says Terror Alert Is "Propaganda"
I believed all kinds of outlandish things, the majority of them not true, when in my teens and twenties. When you mature, you'll abandon the crazy ideas and think more rationally. People like Alex Jones thrive on minds that are willing to accept his answers, but cannot survive the scrutiny of people with life experience and intellectual capabilities.
Former British Ambassador Says Terror Alert Is "Propaganda"
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Originally Posted by Breukelen advocaat
I believed all kinds of outlandish things, the majority of them not true, when in my teens and twenties. When you mature, you'll abandon the crazy ideas and think more rationally. People like Alex Jones thrive on minds that are willing to accept his answers, but cannot survive the scrutiny of people with life experience and intellectual capabilities.
Im not sure he is what I would describe as thriveing.
Are you refering to getting rich?
Are you refering to fame?
In his videos, I see him wearing jeans and a collared pull over shirt most of the time, he doesnt exactly look rich.
He isnt all that famuos in my opinion either, mention his name on the street, I dont think many would actually know who he is or what he looks like.
"but cannot survive the scrutiny of people with life experience and intellectual capabilities"
What people are you refering to in this statement?
Am I to assume you mean yourself as one of those people?
Am I also to assume that your meaning is to question the intellectual capabilities of anyone who thinks critically about the "official story" of 9/11, or the actions of our government?
You are a very smart person, this is not in question, I personally find you views on religion to be much like my own, altho scattered with the same type of general statements.
I look forward to discussing this with you BA, but i think we should first decide what it is we are discussing.
Are we discussing Alex Jones form of research and prediction?
Are we discussing the intellectual capabilities of anyone who thinks critically on 9/11 and the governments actions?
Are we discussing the "thriveing" of AJ, whether it be money or fame, or some other form of thriveing?
Or do you have another tpoic you would like to discuss?
Peace.
Former British Ambassador Says Terror Alert Is "Propaganda"
it doesn't cost a dime to go to any website and look at an article with links to whatever...
it's just an excuse to not have to confront anything that conflicts with the 19 freedom hating muslim conspiracy theory or that all muslims are out to get us.
the topic was the latest fake terror arrest to have us believe we're actually in danger of freedom hating terrorists.
all i see is my own government taking away rights and gearing us up for martial law after the next 'attack'...not muslims.
no, let's talk about alex jones' standard of living though, because that's important.
Former British Ambassador Says Terror Alert Is "Propaganda"
Former British Ambassador Says Terror Alert Is "Propaganda"
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Originally Posted by pisshead
no, let's talk about alex jones' standard of living though, because that's important.
Exactly!! ViVa La Bush:dance:
Former British Ambassador Says Terror Alert Is "Propaganda"
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Originally Posted by Marlboroman
Im not sure he is what I would describe as thriveing.
Are you refering to getting rich?
Are you refering to fame?
In his videos, I see him wearing jeans and a collared pull over shirt most of the time, he doesnt exactly look rich.
He thrives by having a steady, growing audience - whether for money, fame, ego or other reasons.
He isnt all that famuos in my opinion either, mention his name on the street, I dont think many would actually know who he is or what he looks like.
It' a nitche he's filling. He has an agenda, and it's not to find the "truth". If the truth is out there, and it is, AJ isn't interested. He's providing an alternative to reality that gullible people are accepting.
"but cannot survive the scrutiny of people with life experience and intellectual capabilities"
What people are you refering to in this statement?
Am I to assume you mean yourself as one of those people?
I do, and I include many people in that category. BTW, I am NOT an "intellectual". I'm just a regular guy that has been through a lot, including considerable experience with various aspects of human nature.
Am I also to assume that your meaning is to question the intellectual capabilities of anyone who thinks critically about the "official story" of 9/11, or the actions of our government?
When I saw the AJ video that was claiming that the Bush administration is into Satanism, or something similar, and that the White House press was having parties with hired male "entertainment", I realized that you cannot trust him (AJ) for anything. He name Tim Russert as a pervert! There is no way that these things are true. They might do weird things in private, but come on!
You are a very smart person, this is not in question, I personally find you views on religion to be much like my own, altho scattered with the same type of general statements.
I look forward to discussing this with you BA, but i think we should first decide what it is we are discussing.
Are we discussing Alex Jones form of research and prediction?
Are we discussing the intellectual capabilities of anyone who thinks critically on 9/11 and the governments actions?
No, but taking people like Alex Jones and that professor from Utah seriously is a big mistake. There are others, but their names escape me at the moment. If somebody that was reliable could show some evidence that proves the U.S. was part of the 9/11 plot, I'd be the first to agree that it would be worth checking out.
Are we discussing the "thriveing" of AJ, whether it be money or fame, or some other form of thriveing?
Or do you have another tpoic you would like to discuss?
Peace.
I'll state right now that I am not going to watch films of the towers on fire anymore. I'm not the only one that feels this way. I can talk about the past, but it's too much to see it again and again. I trust that others more capable than I will do this task.
Thank you for asking about this. I believed all kinds of things when I was younger - and changed my mind about many of them. I'm not too old to do the same now, but the information we are currently getting from the conspiracy people is worse than bad - it's ridiculous.
Former British Ambassador Says Terror Alert Is "Propaganda"
Pissy.... I go to your 7 morons link and it is all Prison planet propaganda....
You twist the truth to fit your hate.............
Piss, A guy claiming Jihad.... Killed people right down the street from my house and they had to stop traffic on I-70. It is right down the street from me.
Wake up.....
I do think the President has serious issues.............But Jihad is Happening.
Former British Ambassador Says Terror Alert Is "Propaganda"
What cracks me up is IF THESE PEOPLE WERE GOING TO KILL THERE SELVES why the crap do they go into coustudy? why not just kill the people trying to take you or die trying? isn't that the idea to begin with? If your going to blow your self up and are so extream to do such why when you get cought you go ah Darn! Take me away!
Former British Ambassador Says Terror Alert Is "Propaganda"
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Originally Posted by Bong30
You twist the truth to fit your hate.............
Lol ok Bong lets talk about hate!
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Originally Posted by Bong30
This is going to be way above your head ill give it a try......
Islams saviour....is the christians anti christ...
Christians anti christ, is Islams saviour...........
Hmm...you sound like a Zionist there buddy by defending Christianity against Islam!
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Ready...... Fuck the koran mohhamaed was a false prophet............
I wouldnt wipe my ass with the koran.
We already went over this :thumbsup: You think Jesus is "special"...but Muhammed is a big no no bad guy!
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Originally Posted by Bong30
Piss, A guy claiming Jihad.... Killed people right down the street from my house and they had to stop traffic on I-70. It is right down the street from me.
Wake up.....
I do think the President has serious issues.............But Jihad is Happening.
I'm sure he killed them just right down the street from your house man!
Wow man. You do have an issue with Muslims. I suggest you get a shotgun and a bandanna and kill all of those freedom hating Muslims before they kill you at once!
