i think original music is dying or ill

the record companies just stick with the formula that works because it seems that the public is a lot easier fooled now into buying recycled shit. i don't know, there are good bands coming up but the general public doesn't seem to recognize true talent anymore... so whenever a record company does sign a different band, they rarely take off. don't get me wrong i don't hate all new music. theres talent out there (mars volta, Mason Jennings, ummm... newt gingrich's solo album) but not nearly anything like they had in the sixties. I want a musical explosion now damnit!!!!! :stoned: im high

good original music exsits, it just doesn't get signed because record execs don't think it will be profitable in today's corporate rock scene.

also MTV/VH1 could be responsible for this, kids these days are too brainwashed with what society thinks is good music influencing them to be like their "idols" and not letting them, from the start, create original music...

basically what i'm saying. i just hate how we aren't in a musical revolution right now like i feel we could be, because there's plenty of creativity in this world, it's just not getting a loud enough voice to the public. i remember the 90's grunge scene and how everything was always progressing and then, when clearchannel bought out all the radiostations, we hit a brick wall.... fuckin viacom. If emo doesn't go away soon, i'm moving to brazil were i hope it won't follow. and if i see some fucker in tight pants and eyeliner... i'm turning 28 days later on them... after 28 days of course

Oddly enough, I was just listening to Mars Volta.

Paris Hilton is finally being given a reason to be famous by making a record. As I said you need zero musical talent to be big, they alter your voice endlessly in the studio then slap your pretty face on the cover

Growing up in the 60's-70's all I have to say is most of what comes out of my radio is SCHWAG!!! Nothing new as far as sound goes. in the 70's bands were willing to go out on a limb and experment with sound. nowdays no one seens to want to try!!
Could you inmagine what Jimi Hendricks,Janis Joplin,Brian Jones,Jim Morrison or any one of a dozen folk could do with todays technology,mixing boards,computers ect?? The thought crosses my mind what Hendricks would doing now.

We also have ClearChannel,Westwood One and other Radio megacorps to thank for things like "Lady Lumps and Junk in my Trunk"

its hendrix

most stuff today is either MTV pop, some spin off of pop punk (i.e. screamo or "emo" as its called, even though technically its not), or it's something so experimental (noisy, chaotic, bad vocals) that it sucks. i gave up on new bands since they all sound relatively the same or try too hard to sound "different" [bad]. i mostly just listen to stuff that's been around a while. i'll take pantera over any shitty new band any day.

I don't see anything changing in the music world ever. As long as people don't care who makes the song, as long as it sounds good, then we'll keep going down the same path. People act like the 60's were full of musical gods, but they were just lucky to get in on the early pop-push. Not saying they weren't talented, but pop music is pop music no matter what it sounds like. Bands that are popular are gonna get the most money. Ohh well that's life.

There's a lot of good bands today.

Most people aren't willing to search or take the patience to like them. They wait for the "next big thing." Seem like some wait for the record companies to come up with something, except record companies don't make music, musicians do :P

I could list 5 albums off my head that were released in the past year that are pretty damn good (or in the case of Grandaddy, a masterpiece)

Grandaddy - Just Like The Fambly Cat
Built to Spill - You In Reverse
Arab Strap - The Last Romance
Sunset Rubdown - Shut Up I Am Dreaming
Zox - The Wait

gonna take a freight train
down at the station
don't caaaaaare where it goes

gonna climb a mountain
the highest mountain
gonna jump off it
nobodys gonna know

can't you see? can't you see..
what that woman
she been doin to me


NOW THATS MUSIC

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Originally Posted by pixel

gonna take a freight train
down at the station
don't caaaaaare where it goes

gonna climb a mountain
the highest mountain
gonna jump off it
nobodys gonna know

can't you see? can't you see..
what that woman
she been doin to me


NOW THATS MUSIC

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What song is that? I'm too lazy to do a search. I've heard it I just can't remember where.

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Originally Posted by pixel

gonna take a freight train
down at the station
don't caaaaaare where it goes

gonna climb a mountain
the highest mountain
gonna jump off it
nobodys gonna know

can't you see? can't you see..
what that woman
she been doin to me


NOW THATS MUSIC

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"Can't You See" - Marshall Tucker Band. Kick ass song and band. Too bad we don't hear any of that stuff today.

Good music still exists, you just have to look for it. Trying to find a lot of good stuff on mainstream radio/CDs won't get you anywhere. Do some searching on the internet for a lot of indie and underground bands that aren't signed to major labels. Granted, a lot of the stuff I've found I don't like at all, sounds too emo/whiny for my tastes aka kinda like Fallout Boy. But yeah.. I still just listen to the old 60's-70's bands.. that's where the real music was. :)

yeah its true... to be a musician nowadays you dont really need talent, you need money and to look good, the rest is up to the record company to make the music sound "good". people these days would rather hear shit music by a really hot babe then see some boring old band playing exceptionally beautiful music. its just sad...

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Originally Posted by hempilation311

basically what i'm saying. i just hate how we aren't in a musical revolution right now like i feel we could be, because there's plenty of creativity in this world, it's just not getting a loud enough voice to the public. i remember the 90's grunge scene and how everything was always progressing and then, when clearchannel bought out all the radiostations, we hit a brick wall.... fuckin viacom. If emo doesn't go away soon, i'm moving to brazil were i hope it won't follow. and if i see some fucker in tight pants and eyeliner... i'm turning 28 days later on them... after 28 days of course

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I've worked for them all; SFX, CapStar, ClearChannel, etc. and where I would agree with you that commercially, we just seem to be puking up the same stuff, I would disagree about the lack of a revolution. Thanks to colleges, art/indie pushes and many other off-beat venues, I think you will always find the constant creativity. It may not be mainstream and the artists may never get rich from it, but that's what makes it so appealing for so many in the first place.

The funny thing about producing and sending folks to different labels is that I hear the same thing over and over again from artists who hate commercial artists. They bitch because they can't make a living playing a local coffee house, but the idea of getting big money from getting airplay and huge venues suddenly changes all that.

Fact is, even the most "pop" of most of today's artists are extraordinarily talented and worked their ass off to get there. Keep playing the Virginia venue man, you've got a neat sound. And who knows, maybe someday soon, you'll get a call from someone who you least expect offering to help you start your own musicial revolution.

Cheers,
Chaotic

yea you're right about having to pay dues and that there are a lot of talented artist out there ranging from pop to hip hop to even "pop punk" but at the same time, its just a little discouraging for me sometimes how there are bands that blow up because they're singing about their girl dumping them in highschool. Thanks for the kind words though... got any connects to help us out?? haha:pimp:

www.myspace.com/randomeffect

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Originally Posted by The Figment

Growing up in the 60's-70's all I have to say is most of what comes out of my radio is SCHWAG!!! Nothing new as far as sound goes. in the 70's bands were willing to go out on a limb and experment with sound. nowdays no one seens to want to try!!
Could you inmagine what Jimi Hendricks,Janis Joplin,Brian Jones,Jim Morrison or any one of a dozen folk could do with todays technology,mixing boards,computers ect?? The thought crosses my mind what Hendricks would doing now.

We also have ClearChannel,Westwood One and other Radio megacorps to thank for things like "Lady Lumps and Junk in my Trunk"

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Yeah, Janis, Jimi, Brian and Jim didn't NEED fancy mixing machines and other music devices to sound good. That's what made them legends. And overdosing.

Dude I completely agree with you 120%.... I have actually seen this happening (evolving) a couple years ago or months:confused: . I don't like the change!:mad:

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Originally Posted by hempilation311

the record companies just stick with the formula that works because it seems that the public is a lot easier fooled now into buying recycled shit. i don't know, there are good bands coming up but the general public doesn't seem to recognize true talent anymore... so whenever a record company does sign a different band, they rarely take off. don't get me wrong i don't hate all new music. theres talent out there (mars volta, Mason Jennings, ummm... newt gingrich's solo album) but not nearly anything like they had in the sixties. I want a musical explosion now damnit!!!!! :stoned: im high

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Record companies have been doing the formula formula ever since vinyl met money.

No seriously...right from the start I tell ya.

oh i don't doubt theres always been a formula, it's just that nowadays the equations a lot simpler... so easy a 9 year old could teach it to a stupid dolphin. i agree though, there has always been a formula to good songwriting and commercial success. at least the two are still somewhat related..

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