The new world order and globalism

I would like to dedicate a topic to this subject, since this is also something for 'open minded' people.
So what is this about? if you dont know the new world order, you could say this is about "conspiracy theories". The belief that governments terrorize the people to get more power, such as the WTC on 9/11-2001.
I guess/hope some people here are already "awake" or at least not happy with the official theory about 9/11 and other 'terrorist attacks'. It would be nice to discuss some of the subjects with other people :D
for people who arent familiar with any of the 'theories'/evidence: do some research! There are loads of documentaries available about the subject, you need to educate yourself and look at the facts. A good start would be to search for "911" on google video and watch some of them..
People who are already aware of something being "wrong", i recommend www.undergroundsatellite.net - this site has 60,000 files, 180gb in total, available for free download.
another great movie is the latest one from alex jones: terrorstorm.
downloadable here:
http://www.powerbeat.org/samples/ale...errorstorm.wmv
cant deny the facts..

edit: maybe this should be in the philosophy forum 'where we get a little deeper into things'

nobody has anything to say about the folks that own the world?
quite suprising..
i dare you watching the terrorstorm movie..

I'll watch it and get back to you. ;) :smokin:

I don't really buy all these conspiracy theories. I do find it entertaining to study conspiracism though, why people believe the conspiracists, that sort of thing. Alex Jones is pretty entertaining sometimes. He misleads people, attacks people when they ask difficult questions (like, where's the evidence), and it's fun to watch him squirm when confronting someone rational. I wouldn't recommend anyone BUY anything from him though. He's just a profiteer who takes advantage of the gullible; there are a lot better ways to spend one's money than enhancing the lifestyle of someone like that.

Alex Jones Predicted 9/11!

That is an interesting thread. Probably because I posted there. I like reading my own shyt.

New World Order? Globalisation? How can it not be true is my question? These days I need evidence that can show me otherwise.

Freemason; Illuminati; Order of Death; Skull & Bones; Scroll & Key; Helena Petrovna Blavatsky; 1776; Dajal; HAARP; Cell Phones; Precession of the equinox; Mayan; Aztec; Temple of Amenti/Hall of Records; Reptilian Agenda; Mars; Space Exploration; Europa; Currency (current-sea); River Bank; Shape-Shifters; Magic; Terror; ECHELON; Intel; IBM; Hitler; The World's Worst Attrocities; Henry Ford; Afrika; AIDS; Small Pox; Global 2000 Report; Earth Population Reduction; MK-Ultra; The Holographic Universe; Bermuda Triangle; Dark Side of the Moon; Disclosure Project; Culture; Livity; Niabingi; DNA; Clones; Genetics; Chaos; Mark of the Beast; Dinosaurs; Sacred Texts; Messiah; Matrix; Disobedience; End-Times; wtf.. so many words and names associated with the new world order and globalism there ain't enough space...


So when we are all knowledged up, what next? Just sit and watch the Earths Pupulation get consumed by Evil until its my turn? What is the Plan? I'm ready to shoot up this mother fucker, even though I know it won't help.

Saying that there are no conspiracies is like saying people don't ever breathe.
Where power is to be gained you will find corruption, the elite want to stay at the top and are not beyond smoothing the way with all manner of means.
Bildeberg is well documented yet the most secretive meeting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_bones

Both Bush and Kerry are "Bonesmen"

http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/skullbones.html

A list of members of S&B

http://www.meta-religion.com/Secret_...ll/part_10.htm

It may be BS in parts but then so is what half of your goverment tells you, no smoke without fire just keeps coming into my mind.
Money talks and how many politicians have been caught with their hand in the cookie jar ?

I've seen that documentary movie about 9/11 on google.
Was really shocked and even tired of quantity of facts of that tragic date. It is totally unbelievable, but it is politics - very dirty game. Strongly recommend to watch that movie.

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Originally Posted by spliffonshik

I've seen that documentary movie about 9/11 on google.
Was really shocked and even tired of quantity of facts of that tragic date. It is totally unbelievable, but it is politics - very dirty game. Strongly recommend to watch that movie.

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If you watch HBO, there is a show called Deadwood.

This last season has been about this very subject, useing power to scare the masses for more power.

Granted its from the view of those useing the power, and I'd like HBO to add some scenes to include the general population and the effects of whats going on has on them.

Basically its globalization on a smaller scale, but same tactics.

Peace.

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Illuminati.htm www.newswatchmagazine.org http://www.newswatchmagazine.org/unvehpict/home.htm You'll want to click the boxes on the left of the page to see the pictures! http://www.infowars.com/cashless_society.htm#microchips The Mark Of the Beast can be beaten with this, http://www.libertydollar.org/informa...r-brochure.pdf Printed of course on hemp paper along with a newly revived Hemp For Victory program, http://hempmuseum.org usin' hemp energy, www.hemp4fuel.com creatin' the best hemp technology available http://www.ecofibre.com.au/otherprods.html Thus we could fulfill the Prophecy of Revelation;12:14,Ezekiel;34:29 and Isaiah;59:19 (KJV) I'll let you look up the verses provided and let you see for yourselves how these prophecies CAN be fulfilled with the revived Hemp For Victory program! Any questions concernin' interpretation? JUST ASK!

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Sorry the link won't work!:mad:

I totally believe in some conspiracy theories, and most others I really don't believe in. I take a more spiritual side in this matter. I believe in the Illuminati and their use of black magic. I believe that the FreeMasons have connections to the Illuminati, since Freemasonry is part occultic and part based on Judeao-Christian Islamic beliefs. I also believe that we are all known as "God", and that this physical reality is a shadow of another reality, and then other realities too.

On this one street alone in my town, there are 2 Masonic buildings. It's awesome though because the one building looks like Solomon's Temple kind of, and one is actually designed as a Muslim mosque but with European design. Fucken beautiful man. :)

But anyway, yes a terrorist attack is predicted before the end of October. Hmm. If it occurs, then my worst fears have been realized. I can only say Godspeed to you, as it will be a world of concentration camps, but then when 2012 comes, it'll be a big gathering of some sort as I have been told. But the Earth will go into the higher dimensions...into the 4th, 5th, and 6th dimensions I think. Believe what you want about that. It's just what i heard but I believe they have truth in them.

there are those of us here that post about it...

but we've got to give up our sovereignty and our rights and our borders so we will be prosperous and free...the world dictatorship will keep us safe from their manufactured enemies, as long as we submit to endless taxation, cameras and biometric scanners monitoring us, RFID national id cards and all the rest of the freedom they have planned for us.

I believe the world will be enlightened when the cannabis/psychedelic culture prevails and the 1,000 years of peace is ushered in.

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Originally Posted by Mark Bryan

I believe the world will be enlightened when the cannabis/psychedelic culture prevails and the 1,000 years of peace is ushered in.

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It's time that we go to a semi-industrialized hemp lifestyle. we have the tools, but we also have the plant to do it...hemp! i mean we will have our fuel from hemp, not petroleum. i do hope we can go into a more spiritual direction too. the establishment knows all too well the powers of cannabis and they make it illegal so we can't use it.

Alex Jones predicted 9/11 to the que in july 2001. He said the goverment would stage a fake attack and blame it on Osama Bin Laden. He also said the world trade center would be the target.

I beleave the main reason the goverment does not like hemp is that it allows people to think for them selves.

And something else people always tell me volcoms razor( the simpelest explanation is usually correct) well its pretty simple the goverment just doesn't give a fuck about you or me.

CHECK THIS ONE! Hold on to your BTClient!!
http://www.chomskytorrents.org/?Acti...ngePage&Page=0

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Originally Posted by psychocat

Saying that there are no conspiracies is like saying people don't ever breathe.
Where power is to be gained you will find corruption, the elite want to stay at the top and are not beyond smoothing the way with all manner of means.
Bildeberg is well documented yet the most secretive meeting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_bones

Both Bush and Kerry are "Bonesmen"

http://home.comcast.net/~plutarch/skullbones.html

A list of members of S&B

http://www.meta-religion.com/Secret_...ll/part_10.htm

It may be BS in parts but then so is what half of your goverment tells you, no smoke without fire just keeps coming into my mind.
Money talks and how many politicians have been caught with their hand in the cookie jar ?

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Hey dude im stealing this quote
"Saying that there are no conspiracies is like saying people don't ever breathe"

In that case Bong Doesn't Breathe......

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Originally Posted by Great Spirit

It's time that we go to a semi-industrialized hemp lifestyle. we have the tools, but we also have the plant to do it...hemp! i mean we will have our fuel from hemp, not petroleum. i do hope we can go into a more spiritual direction too. the establishment knows all too well the powers of cannabis and they make it illegal so we can't use it.

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Now THIS is somethin' we see eye to eye on! :dance: I ain't sure what the Q'uran says,but Ezekiel;34:29 says:And I will raise up for them,1) A PLANT OF RENOWN, (Hemp)2) They shall no longer be consumed with hunger in the land,(food) NEITHER BEAR THE SHAME (PROHIBITION)OF THE HEATHEN(Law Enforcement)ANY MORE!

Occam's Razor (also Ockham's Razor). (nothing on you Walka not being a dick here It's just one of my faves,wikipedia has an interesting blurb on it)

Psst Spiritlevel you forgot the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, Rosicrucians and "Crowley's minions". And, hell well we're here Hagbard Celine (Immanentize the Eschaton "one day at a time").

There are no prophets with vague predictions seeing the future.....Only humans taking whatever coincidence(or reading the freaking paper and evidence...you know the public files...its just most people stick to mainstream news so its suddenly "wow that guy knew beforehand"...Nope everyone who was educated on the subject knew too...) comes into play and jamming whatever personal belief they have into the "mold" and screaming "see they/we/I predicted it".

Quoting fiction to support cannabis legalization is counter productive. We already have science on our side , fictional nonsense only harms our point.

And , lest I be accused of being a right wing Psycho supporter (har har bud ;) ). If you check my posts I dont believe either sides official story on any of it. Of course rich people screw over the poor to stay rich. So would 90% of us put in the same situation. It's human nature, we hoard. The problem everyone looks at is, its almost always a zero sum market, which means those rich guys in order to get richer have to actually TAKE money from their rich friends....Not just us "poh folks".

IF , (big IF) the worst possible scenario was true and the illuminati truly ruled over earth! (shakes fist for emphasis) you dont think there would be constant in-fighting? Once again human nature....


Ohhh and stop applying this magical label to cannabis. I love it , you love it. But stick to the facts. Not superstitous unprovable(All those people claiming astral travel miracously can't repeat it under controlled conditions much like 90% of superstition and the occult, and Shirley Maclaine isnt proof..har) assertions that guillible people just soak up (or kids eager to belong to the "yeah thats cool club").

Cannabis does not make you a free thinker I subject my evidence as Torog...and several others that are FAR right wing and completely closed off from reality. (including many on the far left....cough cough GS....)

At least no one here quotes Icke.....(that I've noticed)....

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Originally Posted by weirdo79

There are no prophets with vague predictions seeing the future.....Only humans taking whatever coincidence(or reading the freaking paper and evidence...you know the public files...its just most people stick to mainstream news so its suddenly "wow that guy knew beforehand"...Nope everyone who was educated on the subject knew too...) comes into play and jamming whatever personal belief they have into the "mold" and screaming "see they/we/I predicted it".

Quoting fiction to support cannabis legalization is counter productive. We already have science on our side , fictional nonsense only harms our point.

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So you don't believe in prophecy? Perhaps you haven't studied enough! Lemme give you an example! http://www.potts.net.au/tree/misc/adam.html God in psalms 89 told King David his throne would NEVER end and in Ezekiel chapter 37 concernin' the two sticks and in chapter 21 verses 25-27 shows the three overturns from Jerusalem to Ireland,Scotland and England! Look at the genealogical chart if you don't believe me! The bible is 100% ACCURATE!

http://www.portraitpainters.com/furr/queen_in.jpg www.google.com http://www.kingdavid.org/kingd1.html http://www.ucgstp.org/lit/booklets/usbp/chapter5.html You'll be interested in this last link!

I believe that religion and rumours of black magic are simply remnants of how people were fooled a couple of hundred years ago, people then believed in demons and devils so it was just another tool in the mindwashing armoury of the "educated elite" to keep the working masses in line,,,,, and FEAR !

By pretending to promote racial harmony they create racial divides like a wolf in sheeps clothing , divide the people make them fearfull of each other and watch em fight as you reap the benefits.

As for prophets , thats hokum too imo .

Prophets? You'll have to do better than that! I just proved how accurate prophecy is with the throne of David which STILL exists through Queen Elizabeth II!

Maybe one day we'll be the architects of our destiny when we stop posing as its prophets.

I agree there are MANY false prophets,but if a person(s) makes a prediction/prophecy and it DOES come to pass,then he/she can be considered a prophet as I demonstrated with the Throne of David which still exists!

So what you're saying is...

Step 1: Make a prediction
Step 2: Prediction comes true
Step 3: Prophet!

The last days are here stop bickering look around. Follow Jesus and learn about his Father Jehovah. Learn about how Jehovah will bring an end to Satan's System of things and because Jesus died for us redeming Adams sin We can all enjoy everlasting life under Jehovah gods rule on a Perfect Earth in Peace. Let the rulers of the world Distroy them selves and serve god being a peacefull kind person, TEACHING PEOPLE ABOUT JEHOVAH.

God save us all from the bible bashers of all persuasions.

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Originally Posted by jamstigator

So what you're saying is...

Step 1: Make a prediction
Step 2: Prediction comes true
Step 3: Prophet!

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Actually you have to be CHOSEN to be a prophet,you don't just become one. Even then,those chosen usually don't want to be,like Moses who said things like:Who am I Lord that you should send me? I am of slow speech,how would I get them to listen to me? If you are not chosen,then you CAN'T be a prophet. How do you know? You hear a voice (either audible or in your head/a dream) and you'll see visions of things you know haven't happened yet and you'll be told to warn people of what you saw or write it down. If a total stranger comes along and calls your name and tells you your life story and details things you've never told or shown to anyone,you would automatically percieve that person to be a prophet like the woman at the well who was shocked when Jesus told her she had 5 husbands!

There are no REAL prophets today, All are false prophets.

EXACTLY! We're STILL waitin' for the two witnesses to show up who WILL be prophets. On an INDIVIDUAL scale your guess as to who they'll be once they recieve power from God for 3 1/2 years is as good as mine! On a NATIONAL scale,you can say that the two witnesses could be England/Ephraim and America/Manasseh the only two nations to be declared Christian nations.:rasta:

there are no 2 whitnesses where you find that in the bible? were waiting for God Appointed day of armagedon, where Jehovah speaks from the heavens and Jesus returns in sprit form and Distroys all who oppose his Father. And under Jesus's rule we will come into perfection over 1000 years and at that point will be give back to his father Jehovah as a perfect world of peace. Everlasting life on this earth will come finaly as orginaly created. Befor Satan caused adam and eve to sin

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Originally Posted by weirdo79

...Psst Spiritlevel you forgot the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, Rosicrucians and "Crowley's minions". And, hell well we're here Hagbard Celine (Immanentize the Eschaton "one day at a time")...

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I didn't forget, I said there were too many words to be associated with the subject to list. :thumbsup:

Touche spirit Touche, And mark you collossal nutjob...Your vague assumptions are not supported. Your forgetting all the other prophecies....(plus the changing of certain lineages completely in your aforementioned kingdoms...Oh but dont let facts get in the way).

Anyone who believes the bible is 100% accurate is 100% idiot...The endtimes have gone and passed more than 10 times now...Care to support any of your doomsday scenario's with actual information or just wild assumptions backed by no facts again? Oh wait the bible didnt mean 2000! it meant the year 3000 so keep sending in money folks....

www.evilbible.com study up ignoramus Oops I meant Nostradamus....

Yes I am afraid I am with you on this subject. I have been exposed to enough information leading me to believe that 9/11 was orchestrated by our government. and it scares me. This war on terror is bullshit. The world is fucked up because of our government and their evil intentions. our bases in Iraq are permanent.. I have many thoughts on this subject. People need to wake up, only then will change be possible, but we may be too late. If i had read my own words a year ago i would think that I have gone crazy. But really people do not trust me, research it yourself, know what is really going on. A good place to start is watching "9/11: loose change" 2nd edition, video google it and watch it, it only takes 1hr 20min of your life, and it is very well made documentary that you owe yourself to watch. Prisonplanet.net is another with alex jones, he has lots of good documentaries to watch, i suggest your start out with "Terror Storm." There are also plenty of books written on where this world is going and the people that are leading it down that dark path. I suggest you pick up either "The New Pearl Harbor" or "9/11 commission: omissions and distortions" essential reads. it's time to wake up america

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Originally Posted by Mark Bryan

I believe the world will be enlightened when the cannabis/psychedelic culture prevails and the 1,000 years of peace is ushered in.

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sorry i'm afraid that will never happen, the sixties came and went man.

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Originally Posted by jamstigator

So what you're saying is...

Step 1: Make a prediction
Step 2: Prediction comes true
Step 3: Prophet!

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Thanks for making things clear jamstigator. :D
The 49ers will suck this year. Hey everybody I'm the Prophet Pigsnout.


.........wonder if I can use this to get chicks?