hey all sorry to say i had to kill my plant because detectives came to my house lookin for my brother n they will be back with a search warrent they said so i hod to get rid of everything
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hey all sorry to say i had to kill my plant because detectives came to my house lookin for my brother n they will be back with a search warrent they said so i hod to get rid of everything
That really sucks man, but it could be worse - at least you didn't get caught with it.
bummer
thats not good but maybe you will learn
thats not good but maybe you will learn
I would have let somebody hold it for me. (if that was a option for you) sorry for you lost, though it could have been worse.
yea they came bak bout 2 hourslater n searched my house for him but they aint find shit
Scary.
Fuckin pigs.
I hate cops that bust peoples growrroms up.
Search warrants must be specific. If marijuana was not specified in the warrant...all they can do is take note that a grow is in operation and will have to go obtain a new warrant in order to legally search for and sieze a grow.
It would also have to be specific to indoors or outdoors of the property, or both. If you know they're about to search the inside ofyour home, unless the warrant specifies 'backyard'...you could put your plants outside and again...they'd have to get a new warrant in order to legally confiscate the grow, and arrest the suspected grower. Hellz...you could even put the whole entire grow in a car, covered with a blanket or car cover...if the car isnt listed in the warrant...they've no legal business going near it. Oh, they saw inside the car and confiscated anyway...too bad charges in court won't stick for shit when cops don't mind the 4th ammendment.
ie...they show up with a warrant specifying MJ...while at your home they SEE plants growing at the neighbors...before they'd be able to touch any of it, they'd have to go obtain a new warrant specific to that location.
Want to really irk them...if you yourself are not listed in the warrant, you can shove all your MJ in your pockets and they've no legal means to search your person unless you've do something to open that particular door. Key word 'search'...if the weed is just laying around, a warrant can cover non-specified 'other' items...but only if its just laying out. If a search is needed to find the 'other'...it won't hold water in court that the cop just happened to open the oven and find 15 youngling plants waiting on the cops to leave.
For anyone that this sort of thing happens to...if you've any sort of heads up that cops are on your case...beat them to the punch, stay a step ahead...move your grow...hide it off the listed property.
Stall them...tell them they can not enter until you've read the warrant, not just had it served...but read it. They want to conduct a search of your premises...fine, get out of their way and let them...but make it clear prior to allowing a search that you do not consent to the search...get a witness, or better, have the cop sign a cheapy affidavit that you write up and have them sign their name alongside your's. That is, make a moderate fuss (that doesn't put you on the working end of a tazer), stand your ground, and make it clear that you're not ignorant of your rights.
An uneducated civilian is a cop's best friend. When your words and body language indicate a threat to their carrer...they'll think twice about blurring any lines that will become a part of their record.
Cops are people too. They can be pressured, prompted, and rebutted just like anyone else. Do not let their title or uniform intimidate you. But, by no means create and or facilitate for things to get ugly.
Think of cops as salemen. They'll work any angle to get you to buy until they're aware that you're aware of the angle.
Know more about the product you're looking to buy than the salesman does and you render them...useless.
slowthestone, yes but we all know that pigs don't go by the book. They make it up as the go along. I guess you never had an 'illegal search and seizure'. They would have busted him in a heart beat the first time. Than after they had the evidence they would cover up their tracks to hold up in court.
true they might do that but they still wold have had to have a search warrent to take my plants but they only have one because my brother is wanted by the cops n he ran from the yesterday n they were here searching for him only not marijuana
Yo smoky...you're right...the two times I was about to be searched illegally...I let them know I knew. And then noted that anything they confiscate could only be that. Those are why...there are so many tails of people encountering police...and being let go once whatever it is they had was thrown away or just taken by the police.
Cuz those cops know right away that they're not going to get a legal arrest when nothing occurs that would allow them a valid reason to search your person.
The ones that don't know...well...you'd be inconvienenced yes...but not prosecuted.
Like the fella in Florida...his house was wrecked by a hurricane while he was away. The police approached the home at some point just for sake of making sure no one was there injured and needing help.
They noticed the 30+ plants growing right away, and went on to find and arrest the home owner.
The problem was...if it can be called such...the police had no legal business entering the premise just for sake of seeing bud. The reason of being there for sake of looking to help an injured person was a nice thing...but didn't hold any sort of legal water as grounds for confiscating the plants and arresting the homeowner.
They had no warrant. They just entered and did their thing without any approval from a judge.
Case dismissed.
Anyways, irrespective of cops following rules or not...it's a wise grower that is aware of their rights as citizens.
btw...cops arent the enemy...
The laws that they enforce are. Learn to work the law...managing police is much easier when you know the rules of the game they play.
yes but how to prove it was illegal search and seizure when they cover their tracks to make it look and sound 'legal' and whos word are they going to believe a 'trustworthy enforcer of laws and protecter of the innocent' (I use that phrase lightly) or a 'pothead hippy'. I've argued that case all to many times and lawyers too. That would all be will and good if we lived in 'just' world. But we don't and it doesn't.
But our laws here in ohio are different if i open our doors to the cops to look for my brother they have every right to arrest me for the marijuana plant because its in the house we gave them permission
thats when you ask for a warrent, if they have no warrent then you say you cant coem in . simple as that... close the door, ive done it many of timesQuote:
Originally Posted by budman1122
now when they come with the warrent, like stated above read it thourohly, they can only get what it states in the warrent, ther looking for your bro not pot.
when they find the pot, remind them that it was not stated inthe warrent that they were looking for srugs of any sort...and all that will happen is a cut down of your plants and them leaving...but i would not advise growin in the house again after that......lol
peace and be safe:thumbsup:
don't get me started on cops in this city... they are the most crooked people I have met!! I was arrested once while I was about to move... I was in a hotel for the night before I left for another state with all of my personal belongings and my dog. They came in "looking for someone"... ended up searching me and my room, busted me for a quarter, threw me in jail, took my dog to the pound and tried pushing me to rat. I told them all to "fuck off", got three days in the hole wouldn't give me a bond (with no priors) and finally 6 days later my father of all people had to bail me out for five hundred bucks and when I got out to collect my belongings, all of my photography and computer stuff was gone... almost 10 grand in electronics. My buisness, and when I went to get my dog as they promised to hold him at the pound under my name.... they didn't and he was euthanized... they just laughed and said there were no cameras or computers and I don't know what you are talking about with your dog.....
All because I wouldn't talk.... I fucking hate pigs..
wow thats fucked up... ^^^