Im so angry, does this seem fucked up to you?

One of my most close friends recently said she wanted to do coke, not to me because I hate the fact of snorting because of some shit my family is involved in. I asked her tonight and I asked her why she would feel the need to go out and do coke and she told me she "Just wants to do it" wich is how everyone else ends up an addict. Anyway she got really mad at me saying, its non of your business , what does it matter to you and such. Im sitting here now thinking of how fucked up this is, what do you all think and please comments please I really care about her but shes going down the wrong road.

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One of my most close friends recently said she wanted to do coke, not to me because I hate the fact of snorting because of some shit my family is involved in. I asked her tonight and I asked her why she would feel the need to go out and do coke and she told me she "Just wants to do it" wich is how everyone else ends up an addict. Anyway she got really mad at me saying, its non of your business , what does it matter to you and such. Im sitting here now thinking of how fucked up this is, what do you all think and please comments please I really care about her but shes going down the wrong road.

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yeah but mate.. when i first did weed there was a guy sitting there telling me im gonna die soon and that weed can kill you instantly.....

people just dont like being told how to take theyre drugs.....i knwo it sounds wierd but its like in burger king one time i was doin mushrooms in a whopper and these guys were like "JUST MUNCH IT MAN JUST EAT IT!!!"

im like "look fuck fof you dicks i cant just munch them cos they make me puke...so ill put it in sum bread and eat it to hide the taste....."NO CHRIS JUST MUNCH EM GO ON JUST CHUCK EM IN YOUR MOUTH AND SWALLOW"

im like "fuck off u fucking dick i know how to take my fucking drugs ok! why have i gotta do it your way?


.....people just dont like it bro you should say you care....but you shouldnt hound her about it be with her when she does try it just for saftey....its no biggie

I totally understand where your coming from, but sometimes you have to accept the things you cannot change, you can't force her not to do it, ultimately its her choice, as a friend I know you care and want to keep her from doing harm to herself, but she will not back down unless she wants to, all you can do is express, not enforce, your opinion, just try and let her know that you strongly feel this is the wrong thing to do, let her you care and that you are trying to look out for her best interests

you cant stop her from doing anything, but you can be there for her if it gets out of hand.

talk to her about it. Tell her how much you care about her and that you dont want to see her ruin her life by getting addicted to coke.

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I totally understand where your coming from, but sometimes you have to accept the things you cannot change, you can't force her not to do it, ultimately its her choice, as a friend I know you care and want to keep her from doing harm to herself, but she will not back down unless she wants to, all you can do is express, not enforce, your opinion, just try and let her know that you strongly feel this is the wrong thing to do, let her you care and that you are trying to look out for her best interests

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Well said! I think thats the way to go for most situations.
Good luck with the girl. :thumbsup:

let her do it if she wants your not going to become addicted from doing it once

Sorry, but this has nothing to do with this thread..


187: Do you still play CS? Want to play sometime? I hang around this server alot.. It's fy_pool_day 217.172.180.81:27000

Just a thought..


Oh, and I think I should add SOMETHING to the subject..

I'm in this passthrough right now, where I want to try different drugs.. Last weekend, I tried Speed for the first time. Great to mix with alcohol and weed. But I don't recomend doing it often, cause it just isn't that fun...:p I'm going to try E sometime soon. Maybe shrooms .. I don't really like hallucinogens that much.. Or, I don't like hallucinating.

Now .. You're friend.. You should let her try cocaine.. I want to try cocaine sometime.. Just not right now. And I don't want anyone breathing down my neck, annoying me to not do it.. Especially not my best friend, or any of my close friends. Just support her, and if anything goes wrong, you can always help in other ways, like getting outside help. Not police or anything, just some sort of profesional help.

That's what I've got to say on the subject..

Later, tahtah...

Hey everyone, I did express my concern saying I dont think that its right for 16 year old to go out and up and decide she wants to do coke one day. Is this not how addiction becomes irresistable? Anyway I expressed my concern for her and she pretty much said are you going to judge me for it, and what does it matter to you. Totally turned into a bitch, now I didnt say she SHOULDNT do coke all I said was I think its just a little bit fucked up that she justs ups and decides to do coke with her friends, I expressed my concern telling her im her friend and if she doesnt want to tell me, thats fine and whatnot but I think I have lost alot more respect for her now ....

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Hey everyone, I did express my concern saying I dont think that its right for 16 year old to go out and up and decide she wants to do coke one day. Is this not how addiction becomes irresistable? Anyway I expressed my concern for her and she pretty much said are you going to judge me for it, and what does it matter to you. Totally turned into a bitch, now I didnt say she SHOULDNT do coke all I said was I think its just a little bit fucked up that she justs ups and decides to do coke with her friends, I expressed my concern telling her im her friend and if she doesnt want to tell me, thats fine and whatnot but I think I have lost alot more respect for her now ....

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it doesn't sound like she was being a bitch. She probably just wants to experience it, like everyone wants to experience anything they do the first time (mush, acid, pills, anything). You've expressed you don't like it, and that's it, u should just drop it after that...

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Sorry, but this has nothing to do with this thread..


187: Do you still play CS? Want to play sometime? I hang around this server alot.. It's fy_pool_day 217.172.180.81:27000

Just a thought..

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i play once in a while when im really bored but my computer is fucked up and i always lose control for a couple seconds then it returns it pisses me off so i can't really play. i tried extacy and shrooms this summer e was pretty nice don't really remember it though i tripped 3 times of shrooms one time i did a small dose but the other 2 times i had crazy trips i really like it the sky looks so great.

Next thing you know she's gonna start "blowing" every Tom Dick and Harry for the stuff.

"Dangle" a gram in front of her and she'll do a "circus seal" for 5 guys at a time for the booger sugar....that's the way it usually ends up. Sorry to say but your little girlfriend could end up becoming what they call a... "coke whore"

The one good thing about it is she'll probably become a stripper too if she's cute enough and you can get a discount on lap dances from your little "coke fiend" girl friend.

Man those strippers sure do love their coke........I mean......that's what I've heard.

The last thing a teenage girl likes is for one of her friends to act like her dad. Go ahead and try to dissuade her, just dont nag like youre apparently doing. Ultimately it is her choice and none of your concern.

Doing cocaine isnt a one way ticket to hell just be wary of her doing it too soon again after the 1st time.

I wish I had a coke whore girlfriend like your getting ready to have........

You expressed your concern, and that's all you can do. All you can really exercise control over is your own actions, and in this case, your realm of control included expressing your concern, not actually preventing her from doing coke. She's the only one who can decide for herself to do or not to do coke.

It's sometimes a hard lesson to learn that just because you say something doesn't mean people have to actually listen, change their own behavior, or do what you recommend. But the sooner you learn that, the less frustrating a life you'll have in the future.

I am not nagging at her, I have expressed my concern and Damon has said all that I am worried for. Maybe I am thinking it will take a turn for the worse, but Im sorry I do not want to see another coke addict again in my life, and if thats what she choose's to do then Siyanora. If on the other hand she only experiments with it I will still have lost alot of respect for her.

Guys and girls of the cannabis board you guys are so helpfull, if it wasnt for you I probably would have done something utterly stupid like ignoring her and what not.

If the addiction comes right down to it, I dont want her to come to me because I am the one who expressed what I thought and she decided to do it anyway, so I do not want anything to do with her...The whole coke scene is too bad for me.

Whenever i tell people ive done coke they look at me like im a cokehead because ive done it a few times, but theres a difference from doing it in moderation to being a cokehead. Its just like if someone drinks occasionally and someone is calling them a alcholic. What im trying to say is that if u do it right and dont do it often then theres not much wrong with it.

Bad Experience Makes the Soul Older

You telling her doing coke once will turn her into an addict is probably like somoene telling her that smoking weed once will kill her. You and I both know the more you say NO, the more she will want to do it.

I'd suggest letting her try it. I mean, you're not her. If she likes it way too much, maybe then you can step her aside and say something. Until you actually see her turning into an addict, you truly have no ground to stand on. Your arguments will boil down to you being a nervous nelly, and nobody wants to be that.

I'd suggest being with her, so you can make sure she's safe.

Oh, and I thought I should bring up the fact that I've snorted cocaine before, as have a few of my friends. I hated it, and probably won't do it ever agai

Self-control is key.

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Bad Experience Makes the Soul Older

You telling her doing coke once will turn her into an addict is probably like somoene telling her that smoking weed once will kill her. You and I both know the more you say NO, the more she will want to do it.

I'd suggest letting her try it. I mean, you're not her. If she likes it way too much, maybe then you can step her aside and say something. Until you actually see her turning into an addict, you truly have no ground to stand on. Your arguments will boil down to you being a nervous nelly, and nobody wants to be that.

I'd suggest being with her, so you can make sure she's safe.

Oh, and I thought I should bring up the fact that I've snorted cocaine before, as have a few of my friends. I hated it, and probably won't do it ever agai

Self-control is key.

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Exactly.

you should just be like im not gonna be here when you become an addict and throw away your life on cocain but i will be here to tell you i told you so

Was in a similiar situation.

Told my friend he was getting carried away with the coke.

I told him, "If you dont stop your going to kill yourself".

He got agitated at my concern.

By weeks end a State patrol found him dead next to his car with the tire off his car.

He had a heart attack changing a flat tire and died on the side of the road.

28 is too young to have a heart attack.

Later found out from others he had just done an 8 ball of coke.

Greg Hettich. 1988.

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Bad Experience Makes the Soul Older

You telling her doing coke once will turn her into an addict is probably like somoene telling her that smoking weed once will kill her. You and I both know the more you say NO, the more she will want to do it.

I'd suggest letting her try it. I mean, you're not her. If she likes it way too much, maybe then you can step her aside and say something. Until you actually see her turning into an addict, you truly have no ground to stand on. Your arguments will boil down to you being a nervous nelly, and nobody wants to be that.

I'd suggest being with her, so you can make sure she's safe.

Oh, and I thought I should bring up the fact that I've snorted cocaine before, as have a few of my friends. I hated it, and probably won't do it ever agai

Self-control is key.

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That has never been said, the bold and underlined words. I have only told her my concerns and told her I am not mad that shes doing coke, but I think its fucked up at 16 year old just gets up and decides, lets do some coke. How old were you when you first did coke, please dont lie, be truthfull in this situation. I remember a year ago sitting in the classroom with her saying that we would both never do coke,crack,meth,needles, or herion. Although the % of meth in ecstacy, I do not SMOKE meth or do anything with it other then do ecstacy and on rare rare occasion.

She has taken up e pretty fast and liked it, I dont like to admit to condoning illegal activites but in this case I can tell you exactly how much e she goes threw. Giving that I am the provider of ecstacy she comes to, she has a few others so I dont know what I dont see. Sure you're going to say to take that into consideration when shes does coke "I dont know what I dont see" There's always going to be a conchince(Not a clue to spell it) telling me otherwise. I do not think of people that have done coke once or twice coke heads, sure everyones expieremented but you're all taking me the wrong way, I didnt tell her shes going to have an addiction, I am concerned for what it MAY lead her to in future times as it has many other family members of mine and friends.

Anyways please keep your helpfull comments coming, every perspective is a new way of looking at things.

Hahahah. I'm sorry, I was 16.

Actually, my gears have shifted since she seems to be more of a party-drug girl. I'm sorry, sometimes my mind gets caught a train of thought, and I exclude a few variables. Now, let me tell you what I think.

She's going to do coke whether or not you want her to. You can't change people, they have to change themselves. Of course, you can change the way you perceive people, which may be something you'll have to think about. She's 16, so she'll always hate you for you trying to help her. That's the way they are. Hell, I'm still a little like that.

I still DEFINITELY think you should let her try it, but be with her. If she's going to do it, she should be safe. If she thinks she should continue abusing the substance, then I would feel it is fit for you to step it. Remember, however, that there is a fine line between using and abusing, and when dealing with harder drugs, that line becomes even more transparent. I don't see a problem with her using cocaine once, MAYBE twice a month depending on her general health and income. Any more than that, and you should step in.


REMEMBER, if you see her going down the wrong path, I see no problem in you helping her find the help she needs. In fact, I would have more respect for you if you did so. There are organizations out there, and you might want to start looking into a few. However, you can only help her once she needs it, and by this I mean when you believe that she has been completely taken over by the drug and no longer able to make choices for herself. Until this happens, try your best to keep her safe and keep her head out of trouble, and pray.

Sometimes, people drift apart. If you find you don't like the person she's becoming, then at any point you have the freedom to leave, and no one will think less of you for doing so. Always remember that.

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"Dangle" a gram in front of her and she'll do a "circus seal" for 5 guys at a time for the booger sugar....

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call me cruel but I found it funny..

onward to my story...

I've been in a similar situation

I've been against drug use my whole life, I too have let a friendship go due to drug use, but that was with pot, and I realized how naive I was and uneducated about the subject, I opened my mind to try pot, and psychedelics but no farther than that, everyone I know don't like harder drugs so there was no pressure... until my best friend decided to try coke

I was hesistant to the idea, I've seen the damage its done to people, I knew not to trust her with doing it in moderation because she abuses everything, she's a heavy drinker, always stoned off her ass, and soberiety doesn't exist in her vocabulary (mind you I have no problem with being stoned all the time, but just have priorities and handle your buisness, she has a kid, which I have heard from her roomate that she spends money on dimebags instead of diapers)...

Anywho, I just expressed my concern to her about coke, and tried to explain that if your gonna do it once in a while, then fine, I'm cool with that, just don't over do it

Well she winds up getting addicted (who didn't see that one coming)

She totally blew me off all the time to go snort, I said fuck it I'm done with the bullshit. so I cut her out of my life, apparently coke was more important than a 13 year friendship

well after about 6 months she calls me out of the blue saying she quit, I heard a difference in her voice, which made me happy, she told me that she felt guilty about pushing me out of her life, and that she cared about our friendship enough to quit

It doesn't always turn out that way, but people do realize that you care and may give another look into their own lives and choices they are making

Alright so I just cannot get my mind wrapped up on this coke subject. This girl is my ex girlfriend and the only one I have stayed friends with. She also has an addictive personality, I do not want to see her go down that road is what Im saying but if there's nothing I can do to stop it then let it happen I guess. I just hating standing here letting this kind of stuff happen and take the best of people. One of my other good good friends turned to coke when she was 16 because she up'd and wanted to give it a try. Now she also has an addictive personality with the ecstacy(I know aswell) and she ended up going down the wrong road with coke and e. She would go out and take 15-20 hits of e to get high and then she would reach her peak high and need some coke to bring her down, this alone carried an addiction. One of my older buddies whos a guy got heavily addicted. His parents sent him to rehab across the country, he came back and he's still using drugs, smoking, and drinking.

I just dont want the same to happen to this girl, but if she must see what it does to you then let it be. Im not sure if I should stand on the other side waiting to recieve her call saying shes addicted and needs to borrow some cash to get outta debt. This happend with the ecstacy I ended up paying my self only because I am a good loyal friend who actually gives 2 shits about my friends, but I dont think they do about me...

If she's going to get addicted, she'll get addicted. She makes the choice to put the coke up her nose (or smoke it). I know you don't want to watch a descent into addiction, but if it happens, that's her choice. You probably just need to look in another direction.

Remember you heard this here first. Don't loan or give her any money if things shake out like you're worried they will. You won't ever see it again, and then you'll be mad both because of the I-told-you-so addiction factor and the fact she took your money.

Is there a way you could get a healthy girlfriend to take your mind off this situation? Then at least when you and the healthy one break up later and she starts yanking your chain, you'll be being yanked by someone who's healthier than this chick???

Sometimes people just grow apart. You'll go crazy trying to blame yourself, but everything usually winds up for the better.

woulda a fool
are you planning on having kids and marrying her
if you are your a fool

if not then get an 8 ball or two
sniff it up [over time]
then fuck till you come down

but thats just what id do
stop being a pussy
nobody gets hooked that quick
its like saying your addicted to orgasms
feels good but cmon

Hell, let her try it. Doesn't have much affect on some people, at least in snorted form. (Injected crack is a different story.) All snorting coke ever did for me was ruin my $8 beer buzz, and that was a hundred bucks of coke. So for $108 I was...sober. What a deal. Didn't take me long to figure out it wasn't a good value proposition.

if she's going to do it regardless, then at least be there to make sure she's safe. don't judge people because of the drugs they do because everyone's different with every drug.

You guys are all blowing this out of porportion. Graph and birdgirl give atleast some logical sense. I never once said that she ISNT ALLOWED to do coke, I said its my opinion, I expressed my concern, and if she choose's to do so then its her decision. But if she developes an addiction, it would make me feel bad because I didnt put my foot down, but like you guys and girls said I am not her farther nor should I try to be. I have put my foot down on boys she dated only because they have treated her like shit at times and I wont stand for that and she likes that I care about her, and meth and crack and herione I will put my foot down firm and if she decides to remove it, her choice, then we arent as good as friends as I thought we were.

I did not tell her not to do it all I clearly said I think its Fucked up that a 16 year old gets up and wants to do coke.

Graph and birdgirl, if you have more advice please dont be shy to post, I find your post's most enlightning and since I am only 17 my self, your words of wisdom go along way and will with me for life.