Nasty Problem...Advice??

Hey Ya'll,Ive got a very nasty personal problem and I could use some REAL advice...
Four and a half years ago my GF of 23 years got stopped in her car and arrested for having 151 Lbs of buds in the trunk. In the insuing madness (Cops,Courts,Lawers,Jailtime,parole) we gave her mom and stepdad $38,000 for Laywers fees ect. and signed (power of Attorney) over our house so she might have it when she got home.
it turns out that her family kept the money,sold the house,kept THAT money,and bouhgt new applinces for their home,new cars,took trips ect. my GF got a Public Pretender/50 bucks a month.
These folk are very well connected with the local commuinity (Social workers in our local Dept of Social Services for over 30 years each) They know everybody in town (Mayor,Chief of Police,most any body in politcal power) have nice incomes,beutiful (sp) home ect. we are just a couple of Deadheads who live on my 9 bucks an hour.
They know the system so well that they have coverd themselfs very well,and no Lawyer/cop is gonna listen to a coupla hippies anyway... so besides telling them to fuck off what can I do?
all I want is for my GF to get her Life back and these fools have stolen it!!!
She is devistated after reading on the net that her House was sold without her knowlage tonite (They keep telling her that there is some legal mumbo jumbo keeping them from giving it back but they are working on it) while doing her taxes for the last couple of years
I'm not sure if this post belongs here or in the "Legal" Thred so if the Mods feel it is in the wrong place please feel free to move it. Thanks Ya'll

Change her identity?

thats the only thing i can think of

Legally, it does sound you might have been forked over on this one.

Besides hiring some very bad people to do some very illegal things, I think the only thing you can do is let the way of the world take its course.

I'm sorry to hear it, I really am. I know birdgirl has an (unused) degree, maybe she can shine some light if she sees this.

not possable, she stiil has 14 mo feddy parole to do. She really was taken out to find out that her mom could do something like this. I'm having a hard time keeping her calm. in 23 years I have never seen her this angry!!!

The f**ked up thing is this could happen to any one of us...we well manage,but this woman will do something like this again,to some other family member...I can't let that happen!

Gosh, Figment, that's truly one of the nastiest situations I've ever heard of. I'm sorry your girlfriend's folks are such creeps and sorry y'all have been through that. Finding help and collecting the information you need to pursue litigation are going to be tough, so plan on being persistent as heck if you truly want to go through with litigation against these people. I'm not sure how much help I'll be with this advice, but here's what I recommend, and I apologize for how long this post will be:

1. Contact the Legal Aid society in the biggest city near you to hook up with an attorney for free or for minimal costs. They have Legal Aid societies in all big metropolitan areas and even in many mid-sized cities. They're in the yellow pages under lawyers/lLegal Aid.

2. Contact the nearest law school and ask to be pointed in the direction of the school's law clinic, where advanced law students would advise you under the supervision of a bar-admitted professor or instructor and help you pursue any action they recommend you take. Clinics work pro bono (free) or at very low cost, and all law schools have them. I hope you live in an area where there are two or three law schools so you can present your situation to more than one clinic. They're often quite busy, so the more clinics you can talk to, the more likely you are to obtain counsel. Your primary goal in working with a Legal Aid attorney or a law school clinic is to get their advice on what your best course of action is.

3. (This actually needs to be your first step ahead of finding low-cost/no-cost legal help). Round up the necessary paper trail because you won't be able to pursue legal action without it, and it's the first thing any attorney will ask to see before advising you. Get every document, every cleared check, bank record, deposit slip, house title, real estate record, real estate contract, power of attorney document--anything and everything that shows the movement of that $38K from you two to her mom and stepdad and the turning over of her house and its subsequent sale. Make a list of every date and detail you can remember about how the money transaction, POA, and subsequent felony larceny played out. It'd be great if you could find receipts for her parents' new appliances or get copies of their bank statements, but if you do pursue action, their bank records will be subpoenaed, so you'll get those then. The more evidentiary paper you can round up, the better off you'll be. Expect this process to be lengthy, exhausting, and frustrating.

4. If you can round up solid papers/evidence, and assuming your low-cost counsel agrees, talk to the district attorney's office in your county about your case so they can review it for indictable criminal offenses by your GF's parents. I'd love to see them held criminally responsible.

5. Any ethical attorney will advise you to think long and hard about this whole idea before jumping into it and being set up for diappointment. You're going to be going up against people who have more financial resources and powerful connections than you two do. You'll need to plan on devoting at least two to three years of your life to a case like this. Possibly more. You're likely going to find that her parents took that $38K and the money they got from selling her house and liquidated much of it into cash so there'd be little proof of what they did. It'd be marvelous if they'd invested it in CDs and deposited it into bank accounts so it'd still be visible, but if they were sleazy and wily enough to steal it, they were probably wily enough to do it in a way that can't be easily traced.

This is a long way of saying that knowing what they did and proving it may be two very different things. If you end up pursuing them legally, every step along the way will be difficult and ugly. Get ready for every detail of any criminal/drug history you two have to be brought out into the open. Get ready to fight dirtier than you've ever fought in your life. Get ready to do one of four things: win, lose, withdraw your action, or settle.

All that being said, I hope the counsel you obtain will be eager to take on your case and pursue action. I hope you and your girlfriend nail her parents to the wall!!! Good luck, Figment, and let us know how things turn out.

didu here about that gir of 23...went to her mums house...fell over a wetfloor and sued her own mum?

i mean for fucks sake
a.some kids r just brats and need all the beating they never got growing to come all at once

b. just bullshit wtf is wrong with the world these days? hasnt anyone got fucking morals anymore?

That is pure evil, I got angry just reading about it... Your gf must be goin out of her mind.

I don't have any advice as good as birdgirl, i really hope it helps.

I can't believe those bastards done that

BASTARDS!!!!!:mad::mad::mad::cursing::cursing::cur sing:

Wow, it pains me to read that. It's just so horrible that the worst thing about marijuana is how the state destroys people's lives. Have a little weed when you are an adult, your life is ruined. With lawyers, legal fees, and charges hinder your ability to get a job to pay it off. It makes me my legal issues look like nothing.

I wish I could offer some good advice, but I think birdgirl got the basis pretty much cover. I just wish you guys the best of luck.

Damn man, I can't even fathom how bad that is. I got really angry when I was reading it. The only advice that I can offer you is to read Birdgirl's advice! Best of luck to you, and thanks again Birdgirl for the advice!

dude this is what you've gotta do. get all your money together, hop in a car, and just leave. you two can live happily ever after in the woods of montana or something. doesnt that sound nice?

yehhhhp. Take birdgirls advice and fight the system! its clearly wrong on this.. And if you win a legal suit against them, you can possibly have a huuuuge payoff. BUT it matters if you want to go through that extremley long and tough law suit. BUT its not my choice, its yours.. I'm very sorry.

"5. Any ethical attorney will advise you to think long and hard about this whole idea before jumping into it and being set up for diappointment. You're going to be going up against people who have more financial resources and powerful connections than you two do. You'll need to plan on devoting at least two to three years of your life to a case like this. Possibly more. You're likely going to find that her parents took that $38K and the money they got from selling her house and liquidated much of it into cash so there'd be little proof of what they did. It'd be marvelous if they'd invested it in CDs and deposited it into bank accounts so it'd still be visible, but if they were sleazy and wily enough to steal it, they were probably wily enough to do it in a way that can't be easily traced."

"This is a long way of saying that knowing what they did and proving it may be two very different things. If you end up pursuing them legally, every step along the way will be difficult and ugly. Get ready for every detail of any criminal/drug history you two have to be brought out into the open. Get ready to fight dirtier than you've ever fought in your life. Get ready to do one of four things: win, lose, withdraw your action, or settle."

1And this is the problem in a nutshell.yes they hid the cash Very well so there is not much of a paper trail if any.
2.They also know the tax/property laws so well its sick!!
3.My GF Collects SSI for a Anxiety Disorder so she has had bumps with the law concering weed more than once.
4.they have an annual income that is high enough to hide this kind of money.

these people are so well connected here that not even Legal-Aid will touch this,as soon as we metion that Mrs.**** ***** is the one who did this all they just scoff it off.(we live in Kansas,read that as republican Hell)

"Dude this is what you've gotta do. get all your money together, hop in a car, and just leave. you two can live happily ever after in the woods of montana or something. doesnt that sound nice?"

Thank all of Ya'll for the advice,it helps(Birdgirl73 :) ) And Night Prowler... That may be very well what we do...Big Sur at sunset sounds SOOOOOO nice right about now!!!

All this over some buds...Weird, besides being angry this makes us even more determined to do all we can to get weed Legal! In my GF's life Buds were the only Meds that really worked,Prozac,Paxil,Zoloft aer WAY too addictive...Screw with yer emoitions...and make one not give a hoot, as my GF would say,"The Space Shuttle could fall on my house and it was all good" No it was not!!

Thanks again, It's Phat to know people DO really care about others even if they don't know them well:dance:

You're very welcome, Figment.

Sounds like you're already well aware that this fight isn't for you. I'm not at all convinced that you would lose a case like this if you had the proof you needed. But if you don't have a complete paper trail, know they've made that money invisible, have let scoffs from Legal Aid deter you, and have a girlfriend with pre-existing anxiety troubles, then you're not in a position to pursue this. Anyone who wants to initiate legal action has to have a lot of determination, patience and mental stability. And it helps to have lots of money, too.

My sympathies again, Figment, to you and your girl. Enjoy getting yourself far, far away from her family!!!