The ugly truth about white bread, benzoyl peroxide, chlorine and more

Its absolutly unbelieveable what food manufacturers do to the population.
Should we be surprised there is so much disease in our modern culture?
It is now known that the amount of people that died in 911 now die each week of cancer in the United States.

Cancer is not a mystery to me. I think its an absolute joke when I hear how scientists are trying to find cures for cancer. That will never happen because of what is allowed by the FDA to be in our food supply.

Most of these carcinogenic chemicals are banned in Europe and bleaching bread is not allowed in Germany.

The majority of people in this country have no idea how white bread is processed.

Did you know that chemicals such as:

Benzoyl peroxide (same chemical used in acne, now known as a skin carcinogen).

Chlorine
Chloride
Nitrosyl
Oxides of nitrogen

And one of the worst:

Alloxan, this chemical destroys pancreatic cells and leads to type 2 diabetes.


Please read these two brief articles so you can make an informed decision.
Dr. Cranton tells you the type of bread which is the best for consumption that being 100% stone ground. He gives details, as brown colored bread can be misleading.


http://www.drcranton.com/nutrition/bread.htm

http://www.proliberty.com/observer/20050718.htm


Have a good one.

i want to comment, but i aint read it yet, i gotta go get some ganja for this one brb

good post. my grandma actually told me this before.

i use benzyl peroxide :(

thats so fucked up, they put that shit in our bread, thank god i eat whole weat bread, guess the government wants out stomach's to be acne free...hmm? im moving to germany, good bye.

This thing is bigger than bread.

The pharmaceutical industry is the biggest money making industry in the world. This is isn't because we are all naturally prone to disease; but because just as much money being spent on the "so-called" cure is being spent on the manufacturing and advertising of "cheap & nasty" food products that contain slow killing poisons.

Almost gurantee yourselves that over 80% of processed food is designed to fk u up. It is not just the product itself that is goin to affect us but the way in which we eat them. I limit my processed food intake and certainly do no eat an evening meal consisting of manufactured garbage.

Because some of us prefer to eat processed food devoid of suffiecint balanced nutritional content, we get sick and wonder why like we're thick believing that a packet of crisp/chips is somehow healthy; a snickers is somehow healthy; white bread and brown bread which just looks whole wheat which we think is healthy; or deit coke; or juces made from concerntrate; or bottled sauces from huge name manufacturers; or tea bags; of coffee; or mcnasty's burgers or lots of thing we love are some how healthy. Liking theh taste is not the key to health. Believing the Ad designed to MAKE u buy stuff is not the key to health. Some of us grow weed and see how it copes under different conditions. Incorrect feeding results in deficiency. A common "cold is a difficiency; as is scratching and itch; yawning, sneezing, getting a pain; they are all signs of something occuring that isn't right. But we just think and believe its normal. The answer is to go back to nature.

yes, ive allways stayed away from white breads knowing theyre unatural, come to think of it... ive allways stayed away from most breads... carbs=fat

Common colds are caused by viruses, not deficiencies. I know many folks believe that extra vitamins will get rid of them, and indeed there seems to be solid evidence that ascorbic acid will help lessen and shorten the duration of colds. A fairly good faction of people believe ascorbic acid will prevent colds altogether, in fact. But the viruses are there, easy to see with powerful microscopes, and they're real. Yawns and sneezes, too, are natural phenomena in themselves and aren't caused by deficiencies. They're reflexes.

Good nutrition and avoidance of processed foods is great advice to prevent and shorten disease. But even people who eat the most pure, chemical-free, organic diets are afflicted with diseases periodically, including common colds and cancer. We're living organisms, and living organisms get sick.

People have been getting common colds and sneezing and yawning and scratching for as long as people have been on this earth, long before the advent of chemical-laden, processed foods.

Thanks for the replys.

Ive read all your responses.

The idea is to keep poeple locked in submission to authority. Making people sick is someones job (e.g FDA, IFF, ); fixing them is someone else's job (e.g. undertaker, grimreaper, doctors and nurses, and so called 'holy figures'.)

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Common colds are caused by viruses, not deficiencies. I know many folks believe that extra vitamins will get rid of them, and indeed there seems to be solid evidence that ascorbic acid will help lessen and shorten the duration of colds. A fairly good faction of people believe ascorbic acid will prevent colds altogether, in fact. But the viruses are there, easy to see with powerful microscopes, and they're real. Yawns and sneezes, too, are natural phenomena in themselves and aren't caused by deficiencies. They're reflexes.

Good nutrition and avoidance of processed foods is great advice to prevent and shorten disease. But even people who eat the most pure, chemical-free, organic diets are afflicted with diseases periodically, including common colds and cancer. We're living organisms, and living organisms get sick.

People have been getting common colds and sneezing and yawning and scratching for as long as people have been on this earth, long before the advent of chemical-laden, processed foods.

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I think having a virus is a deficiency. I've been shown parasites in my blood under a microscope (a live blood microscopy), something that mainstream medical practioners seldom present to patients but keep to themselves before deciding the best course of action. It cost me a lot of fkin money to go private and find out what was wrong with me. My GP just told me enough to have me keep buying prescriptions; never get better; always have some kind of ailment. With the specialist (http://www.sanctuaryoflight.co.uk/) I was given a descriptive insight into what was occuring with my white and red blood cells and because I smoked a spliff on the way the parasites were stoned and not very active and the specialist picked up on my weed smokin pretty much without askin.

Taking vitamins and suppliments isn't necessary unless u r going to space. People should be more aware of the crap they consume. I don't think enough people are aware that there dietry requirements are relative to their blood group. Actually some people do know this but only manufacture food for a particular blood group whether concious of it or not. If people knew what was ultimately good for them and stuck to it then many medical practitioners would be outta work. It is no good spending 10, 20 or 30 years eating junk then switching in the light of hoping everything changes. Nor is eating healthy on a sunday goin to help, while abusing one's digestive system for the other 6.5 days..

I get a cold when my diet fluctuates a great deal as oppose to during wintertime. I'm not denying that living organisms do not get sick but people don't HAVE to be sick.. (( having a smoke and then twitching or spewing {used as an example cuz I see numerous threads about it} up is a reflex one gets when something obnormal happens init medimate? ))

I am a very huge health food advocate, and I first became suspicious of our nations health caresystem when my family moved to a different location, and and my two brothers and I went to public school, when I was around 13 years of age. The school immidiatly began pressuring my mother to put us all on Ridalin to "help" us concentrate in school. She did alot of research and found out that the federal government pays the school $500 for each child that they have on Ridalin and other similar drugs, my mom balantly refused to put us onto this horrible drug and threatend a large lawsuite against the school district...they backed down.

I challenge all you people to read Kevin Trudeau's new book about what exactly is going on with our food, and drugs. Did you know that by law, only drugs and srugery can cure, treat, or prevent disease in america? So if you have scruvey (caused by a lack of vitamin C) and I am a certified MD in Amercia who told you to eat an orange to help treat and or cure your disease, I would be breaking the law...absurd isn't it? Even modern medicine doesn't acknowledge chirapratic practices as ways to cure back pain, and releave stress. Food companies purposley put food additives in all processed food to make you fatter, make you "addicted to their food", and to make you become unhealthy. This goes in hand with the drug companies, because you come to them to help cure your problems, but alas, all you get are very dangerous drugs that NEVER cure any disease,but instead only takes away the "symptoms" related to your disease, because the drug companies want you to keep coming back for more so they get more $$$.

Seriously, go out and buy Kevin Trudeau's books "Natural Cures they don't want you to know about," but get the most recent one, because in his first one, the federal government cencoserd it (first book in histroy to get censored by the federal government) and in the second one, he can name names of some products/ websites that also promote healthy living. Don't believe any media attention you hear about Kevin Trudea, because the FDA and the FTC are trying their best to debunk him. He used to be a member of a secret organization in the government that controls the food, health, and complete control of this nation. He had a heart however, and turned against the US government to reveal to us the secrets. Only problem is that he cannot really give out ALOT of SPECIFIC cures, because the FTC and FDA are ridin' his ass 24/7, but he does easily point you into the right direction to other books that specialize in giving you the treatments needed to cure yourself without western medicine. He does however, go into depth as to what stuff they actually put into your food, and how it affects you, and what to avoid in this evil and twisted world.

My mom orderd a book that is filled with pictorial tutorials to SPECIFIC natural cures. It is due in the mail by the end of this week, and I will update you all as to the book's name.

Seriously, go out and buy both of the books and heavily reasearch into alternative medicine. Best thing I have ever done for my health as I have completely changed my life around through the knowledge brought forth in this and other similar books.

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Originally Posted by Jake Martinez

That's why weed will never be legal in this country, even for medicinal purposes.

The Drug Czar...needs...to be...fucking...obliterated!

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Oh it will become legal one day in this nation. Have you seen the huge movement that has been going on recently in this nation against drug companies and food companies. It's only a matter of time before public outcry will be to great, and then other people will also question why the government made cannabis illegal, and let very harmful food/drugs to be sold on our store shelves?

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Originally Posted by NWDankBudz

I challenge all you people to read Kevin Trudeau's new book about what exactly is going on with our food, and drugs. . . . Seriously, go out and buy Kevin Trudeau's books "Natural Cures they don't want you to know about." . . .

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Please be very wary about Mr. Trudeau. You're obviously a fan, but I think people need to be fully informed about just why he's been forced to stop saying many of the things he's saying: because a number of his claims are just categorically untrue. Yet he keeps making those stories up and putting uninformed people at risk, which is why he's been asked to stop infomercials completely in a couple of states. We've already had some discussions about the guy on an earlier thread, which I'll link below (and which I hope you'll review). The guy is a convicted criminal with absolutely no credentials of any kind.

Trudeau makes a lot of sweeping, paranoia-provoking statements about American medicine and drugs, and a lot of folks buy right into that. Especially folks with minimal knowledge about those topics. You like him, and that's great. Just be careful. I won't try to persuade you not to enjoy his books and value his information if you'll promise to keep in mind that he's a convicted felon who will do anything in the world to make money, including twisting or slanting the truth about very basic matters--or pointing you to other products of his making in order to make even more money.

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthrea...hlight=Trudeau

That business you said about vitamin C? You've somehow been given some incorrect information. It's perfectly legal for a doctor to advise a patient to eat an orange to prevent or cure scurvy or to change his diet or add nutritional supplements. Believe me, they do it all the time. And they're not breaking the law by doing so simply because those recommendations aren't for drugs or surgery. If that were the case, cardiologists would break the law every time they told hypertension patients to lower their salt intake. Endocrinologists would be in legal trouble for telling diabetics to eat less sugar. Gastroenterologists for telling folks to eat more fiber. The list goes on and on. Doctors can also prescribe exercise or rest--all sorts of lifestyle change recommendations and treatments. They make those recommendations all the time, perfectly within the bounds of the law, and those treatments aren't drugs or surgery.

Check your facts on the $500 payoff for every student who takes Ritalin to schools, too. If that were the case, NWDank, school districts would be rich as all get-out, and they're not. Public schools' financial records are a matter of public record, and you can easily take a look at their sources of income. Pharmaceutical companies may well engage in some payola of regarding that medicine and others. It wouldn't surprise me. And I know for sure that big soft drink and candy and cookie manufacturers put money into school districts' hands. But the government, who will barely shell out money to cover federally approved drugs, doesn't have the ability to pay billions of dollars (that's how much it'd be) to promote Ritalin use.

I'm a fan of organic foods, too, and a big believer in good nutrition and vitamin supplementation along with exercise and other healthy lifestyle choices. Everyone should know that, by any measure, we in America have the best, most effective medical care and technology available anywhere in the civilized world. And, although I hate them because they're total profit-whores, we have the best pharmaceutical options available, too. If I were queen for a day--or surgeon general for a year--I'd change a lot of things about the way medical business is done here. But even with its weaknesses, there's a lot of really good stuff available to us. And there are smarter, more honest people than Kevin Trudeau who can inform you about that good stuff through their books. Like Dr. Andrew Weil.

Wow, thats crazy!

@ DankBudz
About that Ritalin. I read a book called Nutricide: The Nutritional Destruction of The Black Race -- By Llaila O. Afrika. I want to quote (P33)

--"Ritalin is a chemical solution for a Caucasian indoctrination problem called education. The mental and physical chemistry between African child and the Caucasian educational system is the problem, not the chemistry of the child. Aside from this, drugs that are given to African children by the public schools are actually based on money. It is profit motivation that causes the schools to drug African children. The schools, hospitals, medical science, and food companies run a cash and carry business. They recieve cash money for every child that swallows drugs. Schools get more money from the federal government if they can qualify children for certain problems. The federal government offers more money to schools that have children with mental or behavioral problems. The federal money given to schools to treat children with special problems is used for salaries (extra pay), supplies, books and other items the school needs. The schools desiring the money can conveniently find that 40% of the children have behavioral and/or mental problems or brain damage. The drugs are given to the children despite the unscientific diagnosis for their use. They give African children such narcotics as Ritalin or other behavioral drugs such as Toframil, Cylert, or Dexedrine. African children are basically drugged because of the nutritional problems Caucasians created before, during and after birthing.'--

P33 goes on to read

-- 'Druggin the child covers up teacher's failure to educate, psychologist failure to counsel and parent's lack of parenting skills...'--

I heard on the news that the government in UK wants it to be the schools responsibility to educate children about drugs and alcohol. They claimed that it cannot be left to the parents to educate their children because they are often intoxicated in front of the child and not leading by example. The government is attempting to put too much responsibility that is not its own on itself when certain things should be on the table in the home.

And to finish up, the author of Nutricide is an African Brother who speaks for his people; he categorically separates Africans and Caucasians because he's approach to dissemination of information is Afrocentric at its core. His intention in his work is not necessarily intentionally out to destroy the credibility of white supremacy and its many nodes (it is a self-destrucive-mechanism according to much anthropological work I have observed), it just seems to happen that way as he utters His observances. There again I could be wrong..

Err so what if Kevin Trudeau holds no accredited degrees from any legitimate educational institutions? Does it take a degree to recover (discover if u like) valuable information about something that could be of benefit to the world regardless of the subject involved whether it be anything, even a scientific advancement of somekind?

Paranoia Provoking Statements are good if they make you wonder about things abstract from the norm. When we get comfortable, a little induced paranoia to shake ones relaxed mode is necessary to keep the minds of the masses evolving instead of playing into devolution. I used to have minimal knowledge on the subject of 'someone fuckin with my food' after i heard a whisper that it could be tru. After research I found that it is tru. This manifestation of truth came about by the introduction of an element of paranoia. We all have our reasons for knowing and wanting to know; likewise we often have our complimenting reasons for putting things under the carpet.

I know of a few worthy sources of information who have spent time in jail. Breaking the law doesn't make someone bad, sometimes the laws are shyt!.

Listen to or read Trudeau and you'll see how he claims to be an expert on healing, nutrition, drugs and health care. He does this in a sort of conspiritorial fashion that draws folks in and makes them believe he's letting them in on a big secret, which gets them emotionally invested in what he has to say. He does a great job of reeling people in, but when you examine what he actually says and recommends to these people, the info is full of holes, misinformation, half-truths and scare-tactics, and it often relates to other cons. (Your health will suffer if you don't take supplement A. Oh, and by the way, you can obtain supplement A from my Web site.)

If you don't want people who adivse you on matters of health, nutrition, and medicines to have any sort of schooling or education, go for it and believe what you want to believe. A great many thinking people who care about their bodies and health feel differently.

I'm not saying ordinary people can't learn about those subjects on their own and have a great deal of knowledge and expertise. They can. There are several on here who are self-taught and very well informed and who work hard at staying abreast of medical, nutritional and pharmaceutical information. But people need to be wary of a man who sells books touting products, vitamins and supplements--things that will allegedly transform your existence--that are sold by another arm of that same man's company. That's a big red flag/conflict of interest to me. And a big con job.

The laws Trudeau broke aren't "shyt," as you said. They are federal trade laws, extortion laws, credit card fraud laws. Laws that are on the books to protect people--particularly old, vulnerable, ill or uneducated people--from con men who prey on old, vulnerable, ill, and uneducated folks. Those are about as good as laws get, frankly.

I know people whose information and knowledge I value greatly who've spent time in jail. I know several of them right here. Breaking the law doesn't necessarily make people bad. But being a professional snake-oil salesman, always figuring out new ways to con vulnerable people out of money, does.

wow - scary stuff

Bridgirl, by no means am I believing Kevin Trudeau's "knowledge." What I got out of the book is a way more opended mind to question, what is realy going on with our health system. My mom found another book of a guy that has been in homeopathic medicine for a while now and he gives detailed methods and techniques with step by step guides on how to do them. I have done quite a few gallblader cleanses, liver cleasnses etc, and I was surprised about what came out of me! I only praise kevin for blowing a large whistle to call the people's attention to think about our health system.

If someone wants to pick up a book and take it literally, then that is their personal pitfall. I can see the point about him selling products through his publications to generate income, and how those products may not do what he claims because no real diagnosis has been made; people might read and say 'I have that ailment, I'm going to buy...'. That is just how gullible are manipulated in this world. Those same people would probly respond to a tv advert or documantary in the same fashion and run out and buy the product without research. The author cannot be totally blamed for providing misinformation if people are out there not bothered to further delve into subjects for compounding evidence. I haven't read Kevin Trudeau's literature but I have read other publishings of other authors; and they speak of similar things.

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Listen to or read Trudeau and you'll see how he claims to be an expert on healing, nutrition, drugs and health care. He does this in a sort of conspiritorial fashion that draws folks in and makes them believe he's letting them in on a big secret, which gets them emotionally invested in what he has to say. He does a great job of reeling people in, but when you examine what he actually says and recommends to these people, the info is full of holes, misinformation, half-truths and scare-tactics, and it often relates to other cons. (Your health will suffer if you don't take supplement A. Oh, and by the way, you can obtain supplement A from my Web site.)

If you don't want people who adivse you on matters of health, nutrition, and medicines to have any sort of schooling or education, go for it and believe what you want to believe. A great many thinking people who care about their bodies and health feel differently.

I'm not saying ordinary people can't learn about those subjects on their own and have a great deal of knowledge and expertise. They can. There are several on here who are self-taught and very well informed and who work hard at staying abreast of medical, nutritional and pharmaceutical information. But people need to be wary of a man who sells books touting products, vitamins and supplements--things that will allegedly transform your existence--that are sold by another arm of that same man's company. That's a big red flag/conflict of interest to me. And a big con job.

The laws Trudeau broke aren't "shyt," as you said. They are federal trade laws, extortion laws, credit card fraud laws. Laws that are on the books to protect people--particularly old, vulnerable, ill or uneducated people--from con men who prey on old, vulnerable, ill, and uneducated folks. Those are about as good as laws get, frankly.

I know people whose information and knowledge I value greatly who've spent time in jail. I know several of them right here. Breaking the law doesn't necessarily make people bad. But being a professional snake-oil salesman, always figuring out new ways to con vulnerable people out of money, does.

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His basic message is:

Avoid processed foods.
Don't eat foods that come in a bag or box.
Avoid fast food.
Avoid corn fed beef.**

Then:

Relax through making your own food.
Eat more fruits
Eat more vegetables
East as much organic foods as you can


Corn fed beef is one of the silent killers out there. It's omega fat ratio is staggering 20:1. It should be closer to 3:1 or 4:1 like present in fish. Interestingly when cattle were fed grass like they are supposed to be anyway, that omega fat ratio in the red meat became identical to that of Fish. Everything he says in his book is true. It's all common sense.

The food industry is a business. Afterall any company that makes a product and packages it to be sold is doing it for money. It's not a hobby it basic money making. So since it's a business a business relies on making sales to stay afloat. To grow the business you have to increase your sales. One of the easy ways to increase sales aside from expanding your market is to have repeat customers. Well, how do you get repeat customers? Make your food taste better, richer more satysfying. Enter: Excitotoxins. This is what the industry uses. They're completly legal too. They're hidden chamicals added to processed foods that in laymen's terms will do things like make your taste buds hyper sensitive. So whatever you taste, tastes more intense, richer, creamier, sweeter, etc... Excitotoxins and/or High fructose corn syrup are in just about every non organic food you buy. It's a fact. It's all about sales.

Now, is it a conspiracy? I don't think so. It just sort of evolved that way, tis all. It comes down to personal responsibility to educate one's self on these and all issues.

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Originally Posted by The Observer

His basic message is:

Avoid processed foods.
Don't eat foods that come in a bag or box.
Avoid fast food.
Avoid corn fed beef.**

Then:

Relax through making your own food.
Eat more fruits
Eat more vegetables
East as much organic foods as you can


Corn fed beef is one of the silent killers out there. It's omega fat ratio is staggering 20:1. It should be closer to 3:1 or 4:1 like present in fish. Interestingly when cattle were fed grass like they are supposed to be anyway, that omega fat ratio in the red meat became identical to that of Fish. Everything he says in his book is true. It's all common sense.

The food industry is a business. Afterall any company that makes a product and packages it to be sold is doing it for money. It's not a hobby it basic money making. So since it's a business a business relies on making sales to stay afloat. To grow the business you have to increase your sales. One of the easy ways to increase sales aside from expanding your market is to have repeat customers. Well, how do you get repeat customers? Make your food taste better, richer more satysfying. Enter: Excitotoxins. This is what the industry uses. They're completly legal too. They're hidden chamicals added to processed foods that in laymen's terms will do things like make your taste buds hyper sensitive. So whatever you taste, tastes more intense, richer, creamier, sweeter, etc... Excitotoxins and/or High fructose corn syrup are in just about every non organic food you buy. It's a fact. It's all about sales.

Now, is it a conspiracy? I don't think so. It just sort of evolved that way, tis all. It comes down to personal responsibility to educate one's self on these and all issues.

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Observer,

very good. Someone that understands proper omega 3/6 ratios.
Ill talk more about this soon.


Have a good one

Kevin Trudeau is a shyster that happened to happen upon a truth of industry and made a move to exploit that truth into marketing revenues.

He is a persuasive hypocrite.

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Kevin Trudeau is a shyster that happened to happen upon a truth of industry and made a move to exploit that truth into marketing revenues.

He is a persuasive hypocrite.

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Ive never read any of Kevin Trudueas material so I couldnt give an opinion one way or the other.

As far as people who write books for profit exposing truths or the fact that they are temporarily in the spot light, that would number in the thousands.

Monica Lewinski, Amber Frye (scott Peterson's ex), Ex-presidents/politicians, the guy that exposed Barry Bonds and Steroids, environmental scientists etc, etc.

So, I cant condemn him just for compiling a book on truths.

If the guy sat down and compiled his data, formatted it, payed for copywriting fees, publishing fees and distribution fees then why not be compensated for the time in doing so.

Exposing truths and coverups drive a lot of the book industry.

If like Birdgirl says, he gives a supplement referrence to his website or something, that should be up to a person where they choose to purchase it.

But it does not condemn the supplement itself if there is much scientific data and nobel prize winners who claim the biological molecule does indeed perform a biological function.

As far as this man Truduea being charge with a felony, well I am not informed of the specifics of that felony.

But I can tell you that these Corporations who are poisoning the public with carcinogenic substances in our food supply or doing what Bayer Corporation did, ship AIDS tainted hemophiliac drugs out of this country knowing and admitting that the product indeed was contaminated with AIDS and gave more than 5000 children in foriegn land AIDS, then they are due to prison time as well and felonys.

It never happens. In fact they are well compensated for doing so.

1500 people die every single day in the U.S. to cancer caused by what they do to our food supply and an FDA with scientists that are intimidated by these corporations to keep quiet or approve things that should never be approved.

I posted an article about that on this board. Where is the jail time for these individuals? These are the FDAs own scientists making this claim and not a book writer.

Your FDA should be non biased and there to protect the health of the public.
What is really happening is that it is an entity controlled by powerful Pharm companies, Dairy industries, Meat industries, etc. driven by influence, money and intimidation.

Imagine a 911 scenario every single day in terms of loss of life.
You never hear about it.

So to put things in prospective, whats worse. A man who sells a book to tell you the truth and makes a profit for his time or corporations making billions off your ill health and giving adults and young children cancer?


That will be $9.95 for me telling you that. lol



Have a good one.

FAST FOOD NATION: THE DARKSIDE OF THE ALL AMERICAN MEAL
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0060...56#reader-link
http://www.mcspotlight.org/media/books/schlosser.html
http://www.mcspotlight.org/media/pre...ingstone1.html

Mutabaruka has an interesting Audio Book called FAST FOOD NATION available at his website
http://www.ireggae.com/sounds/ce62602.ram PART ONE
http://www.ireggae.com/sounds/ce7302.ram PART TWO
http://www.ireggae.com/sounds/ce71002.ram PART THREE

Im gonna start eating whole-grain from now on.
100% stone ground flour for me.

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Originally Posted by SpiritLevel

This thing is bigger than bread.

The pharmaceutical industry is the biggest money making industry in the world. This is isn't because we are all naturally prone to disease; but because just as much money being spent on the "so-called" cure is being spent on the manufacturing and advertising of "cheap & nasty" food products that contain slow killing poisons.

Almost gurantee yourselves that over 80% of processed food is designed to fk u up. It is not just the product itself that is goin to affect us but the way in which we eat them. I limit my processed food intake and certainly do no eat an evening meal consisting of manufactured garbage.

Because some of us prefer to eat processed food devoid of suffiecint balanced nutritional content, we get sick and wonder why like we're thick believing that a packet of crisp/chips is somehow healthy; a snickers is somehow healthy; white bread and brown bread which just looks whole wheat which we think is healthy; or deit coke; or juces made from concerntrate; or bottled sauces from huge name manufacturers; or tea bags; of coffee; or mcnasty's burgers or lots of thing we love are some how healthy. Liking theh taste is not the key to health. Believing the Ad designed to MAKE u buy stuff is not the key to health. Some of us grow weed and see how it copes under different conditions. Incorrect feeding results in deficiency. A common "cold is a difficiency; as is scratching and itch; yawning, sneezing, getting a pain; they are all signs of something occuring that isn't right. But we just think and believe its normal. The answer is to go back to nature.

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:thumbsup: RIGHT ON!!!

I have just gone on the Atkins diet (5 weeks now), and also I am trying to stay as NATURAL as possible. I wnt on it to lose weight as have tried "MAINSTREAM" low fat diets on and off, for the past 20 years or with no success. Have also had deteriourating health, not to mention, my spine is stuffed from work related injuries, (which is why I use "the natural" painkiller).
I must say, I REALLY feel heaps better. I have stopped taking Nexium (for severe heartburn, chronic 12 years due to NSAIDs), Endep and Epilem (a combination used for nerve pain), and, have reduced the amount of Morphine I am on by at least half!! (my "necessary evil" painkiller as, I can drive legally on it but, not on weed unfortunately and, I live in a small country in Outbac South Australian town and, to get anything, you gotta drive) Now, I would NEVER have guessed that my diet could improve my back at all and yet, it has. Don't know why but, have found little info on helping injury. It may be that I have lost some weight (15kg in 5 weeks) but, the last time I actually managed to lose weight, I was worse!!! Although, I was on a VERY high Carb diet.
My wife got me onto this diet as she has been on it a few years because of Hypoglycemia (insulin resistance or, pacreatic burnout which leads to full blown insulin dependant diabetic) and, is now cured (yes CURED, medically confirmed). She suffered severe daily migrains, had no energy and, got sick heaps.:mad:
My wife and I have only managed to scratch the surface on the benefits of low carb, there is not much info on it as the "big companies", try to knock it any way they can. All I know from talking with other low carbers, they have all reported an improvement in overall health, even curing Type 2 diabeties, arthritis, heart disease, and so it goes on. The list is HUGE. As with MJ, there are huge amounts of data PROVING low carb but, is so often suppressed by drug companies, the food companies (the ones that make the high carb stuff, anyway:( ) even by the goverment (we re the people, for the people, yeah right!!!!:mad: )
The thing with Atkins is that basically, all "white" products eg, white flour, white bread, white rice, sugar (although ANY sugar is a BIG no no!!) are not allowed. This BASICALLY means that all proceesed food is not eaten at all although, this, I don't think this was Atkins intention but well, there it is, very possibly a "byproduct" of the diet:thumbsup: . All this CRAP about you only eat really fats, eggs, and meat is VERY misleading. This usually only happens in the INDUCTION phase, which gets your body into the low carb mode (ketosis it's called if you want to research more on it). Once on the diet, you have a whole range of foods. I have never eaten so many vegies in my life!!!
Anyways, I am waffling on and that at least 1 person benifts from this info, my time spent writing this is well wort it.
There are literly hundreds of sites and forums out there on Low Carb/Atkins and, I suppose a good place to starts is www.atkins.com or, use your fave search engine.:D

All the best to all:thumbsup: :smokin: :smokin: :smokin: