The quesition is simple, but id like to here what you gusy have to think?:thumbsup:
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The quesition is simple, but id like to here what you gusy have to think?:thumbsup:
evulution.....there is no way some big dude up in the sky would make someone like me lol
I believe in both in a way. I believe that we did evolve but I think that the consumption of psychedelics kickstarted any real significant evolution that lead us to what we are today.
Evolution, though I do have religious beliefs.
Evolution. You could make a poll, you know, and get an actual tally of how the beliefs measure up.
Both. I think that God put the first cell here, which started evolution.
That's why I tell people I'm not Christian, because none of them think I am because of that. lol
Definately evolution
alright if god but the first cell here, where is he??? like if you go far enough in space your actually gonna see him???I dont believe in god at all....its kinda just a fairytale to make people feel better
Evolution eh?
So you believe you came from a rock?
dont know
either
god dont exist
soooooo
you have to know evolutoin before you start bitching about itQuote:
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i know about it
and it is faulted
Evolution teaches that all people came from rocks.
Gods just a fairytale for adults....:thumbsup:
no, it doesnt. it teaches that people started when the conditions in the hot thin soup were right to form amino acids and proteins and shit which are the building blocks of life i think. then shit went from thereQuote:
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hahaha ya what Haze said lol, what if there was already life on other planets and when a asteroid or whatever hit the ground it had certain cells on it that evolved into whatever.......theres probably more proof that we "came from rocks" than a big guy magically created us then just ditched us on some random planet
so, how did the water get there?
I dunno how did God get there?
chemical reactions, my friend.Quote:
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It rained on the rocks, how ever there is no natural way to make something living out of something that is not living.
I am not standing on the scientific proof of a creator God.
However, trying to agrue macro-evolution as science is an incredibly flawed principle.
thats the only "logical" reason, what do you thing happened faulty design
There is no evidence for either side of the argument.
If evolution were true Charles Darwin stated that there would be numerous records of transitional fossils in the earth. There are no such fossils.
Personally, I believe that the world was created in 6 24 hour days.
But there is no need to attack me. If you can bring forward unquestionable proof I will be glad to believe that the world evolved.
Personally, I find it much easier to believe that somone made our world than it just kind of randomly happened.
I also question the big bang, when was the last time you had an explosion and something positive came out of it. Order out of chaos is just over my head.
ya but I mean come one "someone made our world" like its just so obviously fake, where could that guy possibly have come from,evolution??
It's just how I believe things to be.
I just know evolution is not how the world happened.
And if you look at how the world is put together it's pretty obvious that an intelligent designer was behind it.
....at least to me.
ok im gonna go with evolution... more logical
more logical than a magical power creating something from nothing in a mere week
and they DO have fossil evidence
wtf about dinosaurs
so you choose creation because you dont have the mental capacity of a five year old to understand evolution? wtf?
i have had quite a few drinks tonight... and im comprehending shit better than you man
this is it im leaving the thread before i get banned
The Bible says you come from rocks too. Lots of small rocks. It says God formed man out of dirt, and then formed woman from man's rib. If you don't believe mankind came from rocks, you can't believe the Genesis story.
The idea that some molecule, through some chemical process, began making crude copies of itself, and the most successful copies survived, over billions of years evolving more and more complex forms, seems way more plausible than "There was this really complex guy already existing (we don't know where he came from), who came in and started another complex thing called life, then put millions of corroborating pieces of evidence for evolution around, and then went into hiding so that it is now impossible to detect him."
Da haze...what do dinosaurs have to do with proving evolution?
and oneriaunt I respect your intelligence more than anything about you.
However, both evolution and creation are logically impossible.
You choose to believe one thing, I choose to believe another.
Da_haze, the fact that you attack my intelligence is just showing the fact that you have no basis for your argument.
I had the decency not to attack you please refrain from attacking me.
Do you even know what evolution is? You seem to be equating it to the way life first came about, and now you say it is "not how the world happened". Of course it's not how the world happened. Evolution is nothing more than the idea that over time, organisms will tend to change according to which variations within the gene pool are most successful at surviving and reproducing. The theory of evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life (that's called abiogenesis); it is only about how life evolves (hence the term evolution).Quote:
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How is evolution "logically impossible"?Quote:
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And I just happened to be the one who chose observation, evidence and logic over tradition, superstition, authority and wishful thinking.Quote:
You choose to believe one thing, I choose to believe another.
I believe in micro-evolution. It's just that I don't see any of the organisms that don't have the sucessful traits in the fossil record.
You are correct I am doubting random abiogenesis in the matter that just randomly all of these systems came to be.
That's because the ones with the really noticeably bad problems typically don't have their genes survive more than a generation or two. And keep in mind that the fossil record contains only a very very very tiny percentage of all dead creatures; most creatures, like the creatures today, would have been well-adapted to their environment. Evolution happens very slowly, in very small incremental changes. By the way, how much time have you really spent studying the fossil record?
Actually, I am very much involved in a research study conducted at my former highschool. I was going to make a trip to the grand canyon this summer but a disk in my back bulged so that I couldn't not handle all of the hiking. This is something that I am very interested in. If you don't mind me asking how old are you and what if any are your credentials? You are a very smart man and it's a pleasure debating with you.
It's not random. The organisms which were most successful at propagating forms like themselves survived. Small random mutations create variation, and over billions of years (a time frame the human mind is utterly incapable of comprehending, which I think is part of the problem people have trying to understand evolution) and uncountable different mutations, complex systems will develop, since a slightly more complex system that has been tweaked the right way can do things better than a simpler one. Is it really inconceivable that over enormous timescales this process could create stunningly complex things?Quote:
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I am 21, and my credentials are that I have read a whole lot of books. I have not studied evolutionary biology formally, but it is a subject of great interest to me and a good chunk of my recreational reading is done in that area.Quote:
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