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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
Hi everyone there are a few people on here that use cfl's to grow MJ so last year sometime i decided to experiment with a cfl grow so i guess i will fill you in on what happened on my last few cfl grows then go onto detail my current grow
first of all i usually grow outdoors, so i wanted to take what i know from my outdoor grows (usually 6ft + plants)
my first cfl grow had limited success as i didnt have all the right equip but i really wanted to start growing -all those cfl grow logs really made me want to start- so i just chucked in a few bag seeds from some sticky icky that i had smoked - i keep only seed from MJ that blows my socks off - and waited when they sprouted i put them under 2 cfl's (i forget the wattage) and watched them flourish they loved. my first mistake was to plant them into one large foam box(the ones u see in supermarkets keeping the veggies fresh) which i had punched a few holes in for drainage, but this drainage wasnt enough and the plants ened up very sick after a couple of weeks (i ave never had any problem with these foam boxes when growing out side i use them to get my plants to 2 foot before planting out in the ground) so being severly dissapointed i pulled them and decided i would wait a bit to try again with cfl's
my second cfl grow was a half cfl grow as i planted a few plants outdoors but it was a little late in the (australian) bud season so they only got to about 1-1/2 foot tall and started going to bud, i brought one of them inside and put it under the cfl's, i only brought in one as i thought if i kill it i will still get yeild from the others, anyway it turned out great crystals out the wazoo, so this is what inspired me to try again with a full cfl grow.
Current cfl Grow, I got a chest of draws that is about 3 and a half foot tall and anout 45cm wide and about the same deep by sheer accident i foud that it fit perfectly on top of a foam box so i thought that i could sit the chest of draws on top of the foam box and use it to put my pots in (not gunna make the same mistake twice but it is warter proof so any over flow from the pots wont leak out and onto my carpet) thus giving extra height
i then set up 4 cfl's, 1 @20watt =100w 6500K 2 at 15w=75w 6500K and 1 @15w = 75w 3600K so they all where in a line about 3 inches apart.
I planted my seedlings seed rasing dirt and in a seedling tray you know the ones got 8 lil pots all joined togethere into a punnet.
after they got root bound in this tray (1 week) i planted them into bigger pots
at 2 weeks i took some photos they are the ones attached pic one is one of the 2 sativas that i have and pics 2 and 3 oare of a weird looking indica plant
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
now here are some current pics they are currently @ 3 weeks + 2 days of 12/12
I am flowering them now as i want to see if the whole veg and flower cycle can be acheived with this amount of light. In the next 2 weekd i will be getting a 2 foot fluro with 2 13 cool white tubed, but i will be changing these tubes out to some 10000k fluro tubes that i have found at a local aquarium store
concering nutes @ about 1.5 weeks i started them on a weak urea (46%N) solution every second water and gradually built it up to 3/4 stranght over about a week (i water about every second day) and yesterday (first day of 12/12 light) i watered them with a week soulution of aqualsol (very similar to regular thrive.... u know the yellow powder) which has a good amount of Nitrogen (13%) phosphourus about 20-25% and potasium @ 20-25 percent, it also has a lot of trace elements. i am not sure on the exact amount if each as i threw the box out a year ago when i brought it but i know it works have used it for years OUTDOORS
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
check out the leaves on that last pic ....... lol
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
nice nice i have a ezhydro 125watt dual spectrum 8000+ lumens which is workn out great for me!!
good luck mate
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
thanks jerryberries420.... what type of light is that a cfl??
when i made that 10000K comment i meant the light specrtum i am not to sure how many lumens as yet
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
its looking good....can you throw in another cfl?....you can i get 1 that is about 85watts and bout 4000lumens...in either temp...
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
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Originally Posted by Pothead4204life
its looking good....can you throw in another cfl?....you can i get 1 that is about 85watts and bout 4000lumens...in either temp...
first of all thanks for the input i greatly appreciate anyone who contributes :thumbsup:
yeah i was thinking that i should add another cfl or two as i was going to uses these light for a flower cab and the fluros (when i get them) for a veg cab:p :p :p
its hard to find really high wattage cfl's here in australia the biggest one i have found is 23 watts which equals about 120 watts :cool: :cool:
i am going to get a couple more 20w=100w cfls today
Thanks s12:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
i find it hard to belive that no one has noticed the leaves on the last pic that i posted, it has the strangest leaves i have ever seen, remindes me of a maple leaf
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
i actually looked at the shops and seen that the fertilizer that i am using has 23 % N and 26%p and 4 % k. does anyone know if this will be good for flowering
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
First of all, nah i don't know about the fert. But yea those leaves do look strange, really fat! Looking forward to seeing the end result ;)
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
if u look on that packet of thrive could u tell me the complete list of components please..... appreciate it
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
yep um....: a few different types of nitrogen; total nitrogen 27.0%, phosphorus as Water Soluble 5.9%, potassium as Potassium Nitrate 9.0%, magnesium as Magnesium Sulphate 1.05%, Sulphur as Sulphates 0.22%, Copper as Copper Sulphate 0.005%, Zinc as Zinc Sulphate 0.02%, Boron as Sodium Borate 0.005%, Manganese as Manganese Sulphate 0.04%, iron as Chelatde iron 0.18% Molybdenum as Sodium molybdate 0.002%, maximum biuret 0.4% ........... lol god that was boring
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
says NPK is 27-5.5-9 whatevre that means
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
thanks for that man really appreciate.
one more thing thou does it have a total phosphourus and total potasuim figure on there
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
ah great u beat me to the punch npk id nitrogen (N) phos (p i think lol) and patasuim is (K). that is a lil bit to high in the nitrogen content for flowering for my likeing but over all its not to bad
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
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Originally Posted by noodlesqld
ah great u beat me to the punch npk id nitrogen (N) phos (p i think lol) and patasuim is (K). that is a lil bit to high in the nitrogen content for flowering for my likeing but over all its not to bad
ohh ok, so those NPK numbers have to be lower for flowering? With that "something lift" fert i was using (1 in the brown container) doesnt say the NPK on it...any way i can tell?
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
oh nevermind, i think its 10-4-6, so is that better for flower or veg?churs
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
no i think the N is still to high i was looking around and see that the p and k need to be higher than the N as N is used to promote leaf growth and p and k are for flower growth
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
i just went out and got myself a 2 foot double fluro fixture and it came with 2 18 w power saving tri phoshure bulbs that are rated at 4000K, Can anyone tell me approx how many lumes these will put out.... Anyway, hopefully the ladies like it. i plan on putting the cfl's that i have around the plants for a little better light toward the bottom of the plant, as the first time i wired it up and pluged it in i noticed that not as much light is getting past the canopy
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
well its the 7 day of 12/12 and we have a female YEAY im so happy as it was my fav plant =). only three to more 2 show sex hopefully at least 1 more will be female.... I will post pics tommorow.
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
keeeerikey noods...
That one plant looks like it got some cabbage mixed in with its marijuana. I hope to see more pics of that one in the coming weeks!
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
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Originally Posted by noodlesqld
well its the 7 day of 12/12 and we have a female YEAY im so happy as it was my fav plant =). only three to more 2 show sex hopefully at least 1 more will be female.... I will post pics tommorow.
How tall are your plants???? :thumbsup:
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
thanks slow there will be some pics of my lil ladie tommorow that cabbage looking one is female.....lol i am happy as larry at the moment
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
pics.... the one on the left in the first pic is female:thumbsup: :thumbsup: and the rest are yet to be determines.....
will post better pics tonight when i have more time to get some good pics....
my cam sucks :( .
i will be setting up my cfl's around for better light around the side of the plant.....
I have not tiped these planst as i am just seeing if i can get enought light out of compact and normal flurecents as i would like to not have to buy a hid or hps. so this is very much an experiment i am interested in how thick and solid i can get the main cola, next project will be starting soon in a seperate veg cab with cfl's will get the whole sog/scrog (undesided) treatment as i will be trying to see how much of an increas in yeild i can get ;)
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
bump..... i am waiting for the others to show sex then the females will be transplanted into premium potting mix 5/10/10 hopefully this will help them grow some fat nug's
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
ok here is the real update :rasta: :stoned:
they are now into there 5th week i think 7th day of 12/12 and as i said earlier one of them is female, the one on the left on the first 4 pics
the one on the right in the first 4 pics is a similar strain (not to sure of any of their strains) to the one on the left both are showing indica traits
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
bloody hell forgot to click upload :stoned: :stoned: :stoned: :dance:
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
pics of the sativa dominat plants
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
looks good.......just curious, how tall is your shortest plant? I'm just so eager to start 12/12, even though i know its too early lol
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
i put mine under 12/12 really early about 3-3.5 week. the shortest plant is just under a foot but mine have not been topped yet
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
thanks Mobay that means a lot coming from you.....SLAP
well 2 more plants are showing signs of sex but its to early yet to know if they are male or female hopefully by tommorow i will know either way "please be female, please be female, please be female, please be female, please be female."
lol
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
Sup noodles?!
Any sign of more lil girls yet ??? :thumbsup:
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
sup!!, been working my ass off got a new job....
well the two that where showing signs of sex turned out to be male they will be slaughtered tommorow when the lights come back on. I am so pissed but i knew that i might only end up with one female. so thats the way the cookie crumbles i guess.
well the offical count is now 1 FEMALE yay 2 males =( and 1 undetermined.
the one undetermined one seems to be growing really fast it has gained about 1 inch a day and has become the largest plant.
PIC's to follow on the weekend
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
well the males are now dead i have them hanging up drying. i think i might make some kenna butter then make some brownies....lol
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NoodlesQLD first 'grow log' with cfl's
everything is lookin good...one suggestion i have is to LST them...that way you can get some light to the lower branches....another thing is since you have 1 female go ahead a clip a few branches to clone....