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Well, this went to the lounge with all the bitching so I thought I'd bring it back to it's home. How do ya's want it? Do you REALLY want to post by the same standards this forum as the rest?
NO: Keep the crap in the politics and don't cry when someone lights up your ass
YES: Expect to see me ALOT more in here following the guidelines of the forum
NO its gloves off here and sexuality............. my2
This is what brought this on by the way.........
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=73465
I'm leaving the choice in the hands of the many....till I'm instructed different.
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
No Racism! We are all one
No Personal attacks of any kind
No pyramid schemes or money making opportunities and scams
No disturbing pix
** Signatures with links to websites that indirectly or directly promote ANY site are subject to edit or delete ,no linking to commercial sites or stores at all. **
This pretty much covers the ground.........
Your choice! One week counter then YOU have decided. If it turns out "NO"...anyone whining in the lounge starting threads on a member will be up for a little vacation based on personal attacks.
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
P4B, I know, i will never back down to these guys............ I might not call him a fuck face.................. but i will never back down. Dr mj is just a brain washed kid that had to many teachers like Jay bennish.
When he brings FUCK ISRAEL.........I equate that to FUCK JEWS.... so like I said, FUCK HIM......... ohhh yeah im catholic.
I don't expect ANYONE in this area to back down or tune off. But as you know, SOMEONE had to bring it up so this is the best logical way to go...in my estimation at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bong30
Hell, I used to be one of the "Kings" of flame in this area....I know how the shit flys when your havin' a good time with a "discussion". LOL
Have a good one and I'll be checking next friday one the peoples choice.:thumbsup:
All Libs will vote yes..........
All conservs will vote NO.........
6-0 i even love the libs...............
I don't think that's necessarily true about how we'd all vote. There are some well-mannered conservatives, too.
In this instance, I don't see why the rules here ought to be different. Seriously. I think if any areas merit manners and civility, it ought to be politics and sexuality. Particularly because they tend to be heated subjects. But also because they're particularly influential, too. The conservative talking heads on TV ought not to be allowed to get away with the insults they freely throw around, either, but it draws ratings in so they do, and the insults further draw in the simpletons who watch them devotedly, too, because they're not discriminating enough to watch or understand a sane, reasoned discussion. Also, the Shout TV factor, as it's called, treads a very fine line and often doesn't quite cross the line into incivility.
I use the word influential, particularly in regards to sexuality because we have so many youngsters on that board and so many of them don't seem to be getting any encouragement toward reasonable, respectful behavior from any other direction. I know we're not their mamas or daddies, but we can set an example and take the high road.
As for the low-road takers here on politics, their incivility and profanity is generally an indicator that they don't have the intellectual capability to articulate themselves in any other way. Yes, political discussions get heated. But in the rules of debate or in a conversation in someone's living room, which is what I think this is like, I have to hope people wouldn't get so out of control.
Manners and civility say a lot about people. You don't see people (other than our vice president) cursing and using profanity in either of the houses of our legislature. You don't see it being allowed in debate rules, either. The only reason it happens here is that I think the worst "anger-meisters" are also the worst cowards. They hurl insults and tell others to go you-know-what themselves because they're anonymous and also because I think they must feel very impotent in other areas. They're often also very immature.
I vote for manners. I always do. I don't say this because I'm a lady or a Southerner, although I think those factors probably color my opinions. I say it because I think manners and civility are a dying breed and because I think the rules enforcement has done a great deal to make the rest of these boards a safer, more enjoyable place to be. Particularly for women, who are in the minority here.
Thanks for asking, by the way, Psycho4Bud. You know me well enough to have been able to anticipate in advance what my vote would have been. Hope you're doing well!
Not so fast with the love there, Bong. Most of us working "libs" don't get home and unwound enough from our workaday bleeding-heart battles to vote until early evening. . . .
I think i love you.......:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by birdgirl73
even though you want me gone
I love you, too, Bong. And I want you here. Who the heck would I get to argue with if you weren't around?
I was thinking about you today. You said some nice things to Haze in the thread about his dad. Very nice.
I dont "say" stuff like that I mean stuff like that....... Im old school and like popeye..... i says what i means..... and i means whats i says..........LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by birdgirl73
And Thank you........BG
Look its an all adult thread.......... me most of the time at least...lol
no way i live for GSes pics.................... who has that much time? LOve them dont agree with them, but still love themQuote:
Originally Posted by P4b
Eg will put in a good one or 2..........Shit P4b you will put in a few great one too. i vote keep all pics.........( in rules of course)
Wait i voted allready............ Damn
I say let the opinions fly... However, I have noticed some tedium in the political threads.
For example:
Conservative Post: I believe God is working through George Bush and anyone that doesn't support George Bush is an anti-American, tree hugging, gay loving, liberal, terrorist... and they're going to hell.
Conspiracy Response: George Bush is really Adolf Hitler... you can tell because there's a symbol of an eagle beside him. Adolf loved eagles.
Liberal Response: Eagles are endangered. There's billions of them about to unthaw from the ice caps because of global warming...
Libatarian Response: We don't need eagles or George Bush. Everyone should know that; don't be stupid.
Oh, God, I missed you, Gray!!! I'm so glad to be back here reading you!
:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by graymatter
what are you saying.............lol are we that easy? i said Islamofascist once too.... i didnt see that up there.....LOL
Hey, thanks birdgirl, good to see you, too! So, what again are we voting on? Sorry, I'm buzzed... and I've got a long day tomorrow.
BG it is 8-1 ...........
My wife is out of town, kids are at grandmas, and i am smoking weed in the living room.............. WWWWWOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOO.......
i keep fell like i am forgetting something...............lol
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Originally Posted by Bong30
Hey, Bong, Islamofascist! Good one! I suspect they don't like jokes about bomb shaped turbins... Peace!
Yeah they get all "cut up over it".... sorry i had tooQuote:
Originally Posted by graymatter
Yeah, I knew I'd be outvoted in a big way when it started. For one thing, I'm totally out-manned. Guys are a lot more comfortable with flames and heated insults than ladies are. I still had to vote with my heart, even knowing I'd lose. Manners still matter a lot to me. Maybe because I'm still working at fine-tune parenting in the art of manners to a young man. It's an uphill battle.
Gray, get some rest. Wish you didn't always have a long workday on Saturdays!
I'm against personal attacks on fellow posters, and intentional, habitual offenders should be warned and then banned.
I do support the total freedom to express controversial opinions on issues. If someone wants to compare Bush to Hitler, or claim that the holocaust never happened ..... back it up and come hard with it.
Lastly, as a personal preference, I wish there were less posting (spamming) of article links , without a point taken by the original poster.
Howdy Psycho4Bud,Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
Well..I ain't really sure how to vote on this one,it would be nice for folks to behave,but I don't like the idea of too much censoring. I think that forum guidelines should be followed in a general sense,over at Marihemp politics,we are un-moderated there,for the most part and things don't git much out of hand..lol.
I do wish that folks would debate more,the thread topic and not attack the messenger of such,in a personal way..doing so,is just another tactic to distort and discredit,the original thread topic..as well as the messenger.
I reckon that I will abstain for now..till I git yer reply:)
Hey Torog,Quote:
Originally Posted by Torog
First of all, hope all is well with you and yours. The only reason I brought this up was because of a post made in the lounge. As for myself, I feel that if your in here debating politics you have a little more going for yourself intellectually than a child and therefore shouldn't need "big brother" watching. Likewise, there should be room for reasonable debate without having to resort to "flaming" but I DO UNDERSTAND that in the heat of battle we all some time lose our cool a bit. (I've stated the same to sundance by the way)
I'm still debating with myself on the free usage of "Zionist" in here based on racial slang.
Reason:http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Zionist
But then on the other hand it is highly used by peoples of the middle east and others that don't believe that there should have been a Jewish state set up in the middle east.....real catch 22 I guess. I'm just leaving it until instructed differently by the management or until someone makes a complaint that would have to be addressed by sundance.
I also feel that the purpose of this forum wasn't intended to be a back slapping session for those of like views but instead a platform that ALL people can state their opinions and debate issues. I realize that some do post in here for no other reason but to raise some fur but that's kind of what the "ignore" option is about.....hell, pisshead has me on ignore...at least he used to.:D
This is what I follow for rules in here....no racial attacks (like we have all unfortunately seen in here) and no personal attacks on members by accusing them of unjust things without ANY proof (which is kind of what started this). Just because you lean to the right does not make you DEA or government agent. I'd make a left comparison but really don't feel right about doing it.;)
Pretty obvious how this poll is going so this is the heads up. If you take a complaint to the lounge, feedback, etc....you better have a legit cause or your ass may be on the block for "personal attacks" based on the rules followed in the other forums.
Hope this seems fair to all and if not, make a statement! THIS is up for open debate also.
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
Just say no to censoring:thumbsup: leave it be man
It wouldn't be censoring, for folks who've used that word. There's a big difference between playing by rules and being censored.
Well i for one dont follow rules that well....I enjoy politics this way...Now if this was Democratunderground or freerepublic then i can understand, but Its not...........if this was the demopublican CONgress then i would understand BUT its not...This is a Cannabis.com website(cannabis is illegal)and its a politic forum Oh yeah its the internet......Just because someone says something about OL Israel dont mean it should be censored. all we have is rules everywhere we go RULES, RULES this, RULES that, fuck RULES....who the fuck is RULES anyways, & why should we obey him
Sharon to Peres: "Don't worry about American pressure; we control America"
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Originally Posted by eg420ne
That was my vote.......by the way, is that you with Latoya?? LOL
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
[QUOTE=birdgirl73]
As for the low-road takers here on politics, their incivility and profanity is generally an indicator that they don't have the intellectual capability to articulate themselves in any other way. Yes, political discussions get heated. But in the rules of debate or in a conversation in someone's living room, which is what I think this is like, I have to hope people wouldn't get so out of control.
Manners and civility say a lot about people. QUOTE]
I voted for the laxed rules, altho I do see your opinion here to be very valid.
Espeascialy when it comes to useing insults instead of being able to articulate ones own opinion.
Bong, is one that I would typically say is a "bootstrapper", by that I'm betting that the saying "people just need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps" has come from his thoughts pretty often, when the topis of welfare and social reform come up.
people like this tend to see things in black and white and like to talk in absolutes. "Only the Sith speak in absolutes"- Obi Won Kenobi
As well as a whole host of other "typical" ways of thinking, the entire pattern is a work in progress for me.
Only reason I bring up bong as my example, is because the attack in the other area of the forum was made on him, and it was his language in this forum (politics), that brought on the attack, and personally I see it the same way as Bird, his non-ability to articulate himself in other manners. Altho this does not validate the attack made on him. There are other ways to handle a disagreement, to do so requires makeing a personal choice.
As much as I dont agree with flameing, I cant say that ive not been guilty of it myself.
Over the last months Ive learned a great deal about myself, and where I stand on topics I'm interested in. But the most important thing Ive learned is that I really dont "know" anything. That everything in life is subject to change at the will of whatever happens next.
Don't coral the politics forum with the same rules used in other areas, I am more than confident in my own ability to participate in an intellegent conversation, and in my ability to choose who I have, and dont have a consersation with.
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Originally Posted by Marlboroman
P4b......Gdub is holding EG..................lol
Your right, I dont know anything about you.
I havent seen much of your opinions, I see the insults and move on, but what I have seen of your opinions seem to be more cut and paste, others words used to validate your insults.
This is the only reason I brought your name into this, I could have stated my case very simply without it. However, I think you should take your place at the head of the table and own your part in the reasons for this poll to begin with.
Ok, so now you are a self admitted "bootstrapper". I grew up poor, and asking my mom why we didnt have money when I was a child and why we werent on welfare, her answer was "pride". All well and good for her, but she a bootstrapper too.
And by the way, since I "know" so little about you, explain to me how it is I coined, and got you so riled up with a single phrase.
Peace
Nope if you knew me, you would know that im a partial boot srapper. DUH!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marlboroman
Im a Father, Husband, Son.........
Bootstrapper is like one piece of a big puzzle....
i would never think you are just one deminsional... cause im sure your not.
Please dont pretend to tell me what a bootstrapper is, lol piece of a puzzle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bong30
Exactly what piece of the puzzle is it?
You sound like you know what the phrase means so please fill me in, all ive done so far is give the origin of the phrase, so please, do tell.
Catch ya later Popeye.
Peace
The whole point of discussing politics, in my opinion, is to get in an argument with someone...
SO, I guess what I am saying is I agree that moderation should be very limited on this fourm.
:smokin:
Maby we should be a little saner I don't realy enjoy most of the discussions here becuase they devole very quickly into shit throwing contests. I guess people throw shit cuase they can't throw knives but its beginning to get annoying. I guess fighting on the internet is like winning in the special olympics even if you win your still a retard. I voted no basically cuase Im hoping some of you false conservatives have a mental breakdown due to consuming too much BS or realizing its not so hard to be wrong occasionally.
Howdy Psycho4Bud,
Thanx for yer kind words :) Me and mine,are doing pretty dang good--compared to alot of folks--I tell ya what ! :) lol
I do agree with you,on applying some basic guidelines here,but I'm somewhat confused about what you may think of as being a 'rude pic'.
For instance,I post what some folks would call rude pics,when I post pics that are against Islam,or ones that support America and our troops,maybe you mean pics with profanity or obscenity in them ? Certainly,I don't care for them kind of pics,nor do I like any pics that depict God or Jesus,in a bad way. I'll await yer definition of 'rude pics'..then vote.:) :thumbsup:
Have a good one ! :stoned: :D
Hey dude!Quote:
Originally Posted by Torog
On the pics........THAT is where it would be REAL hard for me! We seem to be on the same mind frame so I think that our idea of offensive may be different than some others on here. I really don't know how I'd deal with that one. Let's just call it forms of nudity for now.
Have a good one!:thumbsup:
16-4......I think this bird is cooked anyways. I'm REALLY interested in the Dr.'s reply.
Have a good one!:thumbsup: :stoned: